Comment of the week

For once, Euribor Up Up is right in what he writes

# 2, LEON

Admittedly, the commentary is not exactly "the result of a spontaneous inspiration", but invented or not, I agree with the message. That feeling of being a lemon to express once in a while I got from this summer and I do not think that I remove in life.

On the other hand, would like the perpetrator (or perpetrators would have to say?) Could tell me whether all the personalities that populate his head are in rent or have been mortgaged to live in it;-P

As always, cheap demagoguery if it lived on in best times of our parents as those on work and money ... the worst thing is that it is the party with which most people identify.
I think if you about money, nor were they on many came because of serious times of dearth of post where an orange was a whim and meat nor see.
I do not recall that my father bought me so many toys in my time of the child as you buy me my nephews on a birthday, never shot from credit card to buy a whim, the TV is fixed when it crashed and was not changed for a plasma if that.
It is easier to blame others and whether it can be to face governantes that the gallery seems to be what it takes more.
Previously saved to buy the apartment because with an interest of 16% less ask if he could be asked.
Of course that prices are not what they were but I think that the price of housing makes it not the government but sellers
and as we have had several years of growth of real estate and low interest, which it so happens that began with the euro (the money has come out from under the tiles eh) has not scared us strive for 30 or 40 years, now that raises the price of money we complain the government is hypocritical

I'm not at all with a lot of things that are explained in the commentary of the week.

1) First, that today's generation is more composed than the previous one, does not mean it is more capable. Rather there is an excess of titulitis and masteritis caused by the anxieties of many to make money fast with a good investment. And to the actual knowledge that you are saving the skin, or plim.

2) The prices of everything could have been multiplied by 2, 3, 5 or 10, but also the anxieties of many of possessing things that will never use, just to appear. Less is more. And remember that before a washing machine was a full pay and a car does not say, what you were paying for years and years, so nuances, which previously was not around Sheffield. Many people are unable to waive a comilona out of 100 euros that it spends in a cabinet necessary or put it in a savings account does not appear to.

3) Many rant against politicians but then follow them because they look before voting on whether they are red, blue, black or that his capabilities. And so we go. Those responsible for that Congress is empty is often OUR to vote in many pigeon peas per borreguismo.

4) Revenue 1,200 euros and subtracting all expenses will remain -500 (negative). Here is something strange and not the fault of the system precisely. Let's see:

700 rental (you could find another affordable rental most or go to live in a shared apartment, that the world will not fall for that)
100 euros services (electricity, water, gas, fixed, mobile ...)
$ 100 meal (it seems to me somewhat, but well ...)
Are you spending on gasoline? Well car and get out very shortly, which will greatly enjoy bundles of Ford.
Public transportation: a throw of Bonds and monthly metro or bus. (30-50 euros)
Leisure ¿? There are millions of things you can do for free without the panoli and tajarse.
You could save 300 euros a month or so (twice if you were in a shared apartment) and not have a negative balance of -500 to me explain what I spend.

That we complain a lot but then almost nobody does anything to solve their personal situation.

I totally agree with this article, it is shameful that we charge the salaries, we should go out into the streets to protest, all together, good events, just because we go out to celebrate our football team has won a cup, let us unite and go out into the street to shout and tell you complain to these scoundrels that we are not fools.

And with respect to the comment of the Borg collective, I think it is incredible that you throw the blame to the employee.
Buscate a new, cheaper rent? where are you going to find the kid in the slums?
spend gasoline? therefore outside the car, get out and walk fuck you because you put babies solutions, the problem is not the kid, the problem is the salary that you do not enterais, we are all entitled to live in decent housing is not in a hovel of 400euros, I know more than one and of course we must complain and do well.

If the comment of the week is demagogic, the example that our parents had no motive is simply stupid.

It must be acknowledged that the bill for this light altissima, these past months I have come barbaric ... and intend to raise even more. I think one pass.

But ICG good? a rent of 700 Eur? and you did not mind buying friend? a letter of 700 for insurance that gives you something good unless you live in a big city ...

Ah! totally agree with Borg Collective. Just a clarification, not all live in the city and enjoy public transportation. In my case I live in a village, and every day I get 30 km to the small town where they work, plus an almost daily basis I go to client companies, according arises. With the cost of gasoline in my I can not be remedied. But the issue of expenditure on leisure sensational is, since I have left around 150 euros a month for it, and when I say also include recreation if needed new shoes or a jersey. We went out about once every two months to dinner with another couple, and what to do a cafe, Sunday and Sunday does not. Anyway, what to spend the month, which is work going on. Now, we must bear in mind that should not be normal. Indeed, pensioners, people on the dole, and so on. I agree that something must be done, it must be for them all echarnos to the streets to protest. In this absolutely right, but please do not politicize because those who have brought us to this situation are no longer in power.

Uy-u-u-u ... .. What I have just read, his father earned 200mil pesetas in the year 90 !!!!! And this is what normal? This was well above average, compared with a win now would be 2500 or 3000 euros. Please, when you open your mouth you have to know what is spoken. Which of rabies by Diossss uncle!! Anyway, if you will continue living in their dad pepere to pay another 5 years of his career and to live in the story ...

In 1988 I was 44 years and earned a whopping 150,000 pesetas. I was in 15% of the salaries of the dome of a French multinational paid either on the outskirts of Barcelona, not far from the operators of factory earned 200,000 pesetas unless they make a lot of hours (in those days were made hours to reach at 60 per week).

Yesterday, another Forero found a post in August in which he spoke to the father of the boy's section of the week had been pastor and then had gone to work in Germany Could it be that these 200,000 ESP operator of the factory 1988 earned in Germany?

With no le quito reason is that the price of some things (like housing has been much more expensive), the same year 1988 I bought my first floor (great but on the outskirts of Barcelona) which accounted for 8,500,000 pesetas 56 of my gross monthly salary (or think these prices today), which does not mean that the effort was much lower because interest rates were 18% and mortgages were up to 15 years Do you imaginaIS what with the prices Now?

Pedone ... in 1988 was 24 years, I now have 44

In 1988 I was earning the minimum wage and were 42,500 pesetas per month, I was winning this year and Meidan, (and my boss who was the owner of the company earned 425 thousand) then went on to win 75 thousand, in about 6 months 150 thousand switching company, then at 3 months got off to 125 thousand because I preferred another company better ... and not the 200 billion won until 1990-1991 and then was very well paid because he was in a sector that gave a lot of pasta in a nutshell ... 200 thousand in 1988 was a high executive pay
but
Who cares?

hola such,
Umm what he says has a lot of reason, with my salary and my wife ten years ago live like kings, today we're almost righteous (two engineers) have a mortgage and a car as well as credit ... does the rest of the people ? so far a mechanic or any professional earning much money in the issue of supply and demand is going to happen now? Also issue of internationalization of companies, if all companies are going to China or countries where low coast will the money go? maybe a few hands and the middle class that drives the economy .. in order that it rots me more is that going to these countries for failing to pay workers and by not having to respond to occupational safety and health measures that promote themselves here .. finally something is not going to be the same after this ... greetings

What is my lovely Spain! and that we have the fun blog, you can not be left alone!, three-day journey, and I find the back of my esteemed desenmascaración Upupa, which had just for saying "a" zillions thousand negatives, is playing a Doctor Jekyll and Mister Hyde, said "a" as ICG and tachannnnnn zillions thousand positive .... It is curious to come and put off a stool JLRZ in Washington and at the same time know that bagpipes are settled in the famous meeting of the G-20 and you are the first that there has not solved anything, just proposals and more proposals and to postpone a second meeting for the spring, where the host will change not only color but also of the opinion, while our beloved, amantísimo, JLRZ thanking Zarko what it says about him, falling into the grave mistake of showing everyone that we are pringaos at the expense of France and in the spring, in Brazil, where the Macarena sad reality is not going to mediate ... ..
On the issue of telling Droblo comment that my situation is similar in 1988 but was then 175Mil net pay with 15 + said benefits could be at the crest of the wave?, 20 years after my current salary is more than double fail or hint that ridge, rather I would say that right now the tide has engullido me, so I have to give reasons to Mister Hyde or ICG or Upupa when he says:
And so, all I can say that I am as Spanish is what I feel: SHAME! Outrage! IMPOTENCE!
That's right! Today, we all feel a great impotence in the face of so much nonsense who have had the shots, and who have remained without oil for frying and continue around the world trying to fix the fry.
Not the Macarena saves us either now or when the daisies bloom in the spring.

Go, Go here and yet there are beach Moderation
What is my lovely Spain! and that we have the fun blog, you can not be left alone!, three-day journey, and I find the back of my esteemed desenmascaración Upupa, which had just for saying "a" zillions thousand negatives, is playing a Doctor Jekyll and Mister Hyde, said "a" as ICG and tachannnnnn zillions thousand positive .... It is curious to come and put off a stool JLRZ in Washington and at the same time know that bagpipes are settled in the famous meeting of the G-20 and you are the first that there has not solved anything, just proposals and more proposals and to postpone a second meeting for the spring, where the host will change not only color but also of the opinion, while our beloved, amantísimo, JLRZ thanking Zarko what it says about him, falling into the grave mistake of showing everyone that we are pringaos at the expense of France and in the spring, in Brazil, where the Macarena sad reality is not going to mediate ... ..
On the subject of comment Droblo tell that my situation is similar in 1988 but was then 175Mil net pay with 15 + said benefits could be at the crest of the wave?, 20 years after my current salary is more than double fail or hint that ridge, rather I would say that right now the tide has engullido me, so I have to give reasons to Mister Hyde or ICG or Upupa when he says:
And so, all I can say that I am as Spanish is what I feel: SHAME! Outrage! IMPOTENCE!
That's right! Today, we all feel a great impotence in the face of so much nonsense who have had the shots, and who have remained without oil for frying and continue around the world trying to fix the fry.
Not the Macarena saves us either now or when the daisies bloom in the spring.

The "child heifer Yankee" believes that Spain should cut taxes:

http://www.elperiodicodearagon.com/noticias/noticia.asp?pkid=455986

21 carsola, if I was earning the minimum wage (42.5) and 175 thousand your net pay in 15,
Why say that our situation was similar?
Well, OK, I got the sense ...

# 16, Ignasi
How about an average salary this regard?

Hello, everyone @ s.
Someone asked in this last month some multicurrency mortgage? Where? It is feasible at this time of crisis? thanks

Why not have retransmitted the top 15-N? ... ... ... Why he had football? ... ....

I know that is not properly convey fear, but I personally am trembling with the outcome of the summit ... it seems that continue to fall ... the Euribor starts Chafa many. Anybody can reassure me saying that I am wrong? Or so it seems to me, or Bush has told us all to face: "I'm sorry, I have to protectionism CagA. Good luck, my friends .... is not the end of the world shit! (what do we expect from a Republican?) "
Let's see tomorrow ...

Eureka

I found confirmation of many things that I say to my friends. I am so superdeacuerdo with this last point ... for some time that commented, angry, we been led to believe that there is a middle class. Well, I can not believe .. if the middle class does not reach the end of the month and expect that the economy is revived without cash ... You can have that private companies had to lower the margin benefecios to increase the state salarios.Supongo can not be continued by the philanthropy and that should increase the minimum wage to start and increase the same way the rest. Just so we spend a little more, we save a bit and all this stops being so insecure.

Fixed rate of ING today: 4.280

As the comment of the week you may like or upset, you can look easy, demagogue or a marvel, but .... AS said Truths fists, therefore, and seeing that it was an ultra voted for comment, deserves to be highlighted.
It is very easy to say, "is that not send your complaints to the ministry," who has not sent any time and nisiquiera replied a thank you for your cooperation?, Have managed to get bored and numb to the people, and that's the current situation , Which market a good line comment is prominent in most of ICG.

It is very easy to say, "How many have you done your strikes?, Because look, we live in a society with a job so remarkable that I'm afraid to go on strike in my work for fear of being fired (well pardon nisiquiera dismissed, because my trash fixed contract workers (name very bold indeed, but it means)).

Is that in the era of my parents had permanent jobs in private enterprises YES!! for he has been forgotten ... and !!!!, where unions are ????? CHUPA THE BOAT, a boat in which they do not give me to suck me.

You can seem opportunistic, easy to complain, looking for positive feedback, but NO, is the reality, and I do not hear that that is true is that you are spoiling the TV and you buy another new plasma rather than fix it, "NO forgiveness, large companies learn about how this business a few years ago, and you shall know very well that the appliances, Stan made for a lifetime, whether or not they were going to make money doing tels?, with the low demographic that exists, at some point the sales go down and down and the business would not fit into anything, better make tv with useful lives of 5 years, and when you will fix it, you say 'listen, settle worth 650 € and does not assure him soon can last, and can buy new for 599 €, that you prefer? ".

In this era of my parents, business people had to fix appliances that worked very well, those do not exist today, because they never agreed to the majors own signatures.

ALREADY WELL PLEASE ECHARNOS DE LA CULPA of all evil ESPAÑOLITOS TO WORKERS AND THE WALK, NOT! WHAT I DO NOT HAVE THE BLAME FOR THE FINANCIAL MARKET AS Control 4 Enterao WITH MY SAVINGS. AND ME IF YOU BUY A LCD, can afford WHY IS THE WORK I HAVE DONE, WITH RESPECT sweat of MI, WITH MY WAGES, WITH MY FEES (HONOR), accused my ME NOT FOR NOTHING !!!!!

Do not you think too down?

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The comment of the week I feel great. What has been said could have been said in many ways ... "greed breaks the bag", "kill the hen that lays the golden eggs" ... so we have the Spanish refranero full of clues to explain what happened .... But do you really have to worry equivicado that? Not at all, because the crisis is not going to pay them, but the rest of humanity. Shame!

Hello friends this gentleman has every reason in the world, and I think there is the root of the problems at the present time.
What we can not allow the generation that is more prepared for the entire history of spain this misery going to find work and to replace a person who retires doing the same job, but clearly gaining half.
As they want the people to consume or having children or having a home, gaining half.
I think one of the sources of the growing interest of companies is precisely this.
typical example bank teller Mr leading 30 years this gathering hypothetically 3000 € a month. Though his new partner to do the same job paid little more than a thousand euros and 30 years here and I like to see if this young cashing those 3000 €, + ipc your question.
in order that more and more, unfortunately the middle class is disappearing.
I like to see it from here 30 years if we have what our parents.
I think that nai nai. and luck
greetings to all

Ignasi #

Uncle, take the pastillita and not leave home without halter, please, what prevents the rules.

It was not at a press conference, Van Gaal told Oscar, the player who would later Valencia and then to Espanyol, told him that he was always downcast by problems of language semantics and say that he wanted to negative fitness is not reached anywhere. It also underscored the attitude of the president when he says that we must be positive with the situation as being negative is not reached anywhere, that is, in the positive sense of the word as "active" and not complain until the storm passes .

Congratulations for the article, I'll make a post and a comment on my blog redirecting your blog, provided they have your approval.

Totally agree ... my grandmother, retired 21 years ago has a salary (retirement) more than 1.200 €, as did many of my co-workers (public company from a regional administration), my grandmother would go up the CPI, to 2% and my thanks to the terms of absorption or that. Our low purchasing power, while all administrations prices go up the CPI or more (see public transport, municipal fees, etc.). I take it lucky in many ways, but my level of savings begins to plummet and I have no expectations of improvement in my work, or change.

Pelas 200mil in an assembly line in 1990? Jajaja not you think so or you, unless you double-shift ... I did military service in 1994, he looted the payroll and received the master 240mil ... so that by around 200mil operator of the assembly line I see it wrong, in 1998 I received 120mil in the assembly line without doing hours and was very well pagado.algo not block champion!!

Whether you're better trained. To be chain operator does not need a university education. You, you pay for the work they do, not by studies that have. The studies help to get a better job, but if you choose one in the studs are not needed, violates the consequences.

Moreover, your father becomes the same as you because you have gone up every year salary with the increase in the CPI. It is right that your father like your copper. What would be wrong to charge your father more or less than you.

Do not aprovecheis of the situation to make more sense without burning.

Des of course everything you say is true, but not happy in cataluña want to approve the LEC, or as some have said public school teachers to sell to private interests ... or we can also speak the University of Bologna in order to make the work throughout europe Without taking into account that here we can not afford to study more hours that we have to work to keep us with our salaries miserable, but someone wins there in the mc donals I professor of computer science throughout the week.
it is best to qualify for any alternative that works as the bank's time or not to put aside the miserable unions that never solves anything, but all have their good wages.