Commentary and video of the week.

Like every Saturday recovered the comment voted most of the week and gift video (in 2 parts) with the last appearance of Leopold Abbey in the dog program.

# 20, hipotecaohastalamedula

November 4, 2008, at 9:53.
Telecinco today came out in a story about how 3 girls Muslim felt "discriminated against" because when they go to look for work said that her veil was a barrier. Telecinco used words such as harassment, discrimination, racism, etc ...
The most flagrant of a pizzeria that it was explained that the uniform and hat and polo ALL should take, something that the girl did not understand.
And this makes the TV news, how many presenters with Turban has Telecinco? I think that the news program forced them to go with a tie, not too eye-catching styling and good image. And they criticize an employee of a pizzeria by saying that not hire someone with a veil, forgiveness, said that if it hired, but had to remove it. To me, that I do not feel discrimination, I think equality, conditions, equal for all.
I ask those girls, what would happen if I go to their country with my wife, and she goes with miniskirt, cleavage and gives us by besarnos in a public park, surely I cut out the language, she stoning and what they ASI applaud because their religion is. Well girls, this is our country, being an immigrant does not have to deny rights, but neither has to granting privileges.
I'm sick of seeing fights at school because there are parents who want to send their girls to burka. They came here looking for progress, because that is progress (which I doubt very much that we are an example of this), not to discriminate against women is progress, give the same rights is progress. If you like, well, if not, do not try to change a country because their ideals are not yours. That already knew before, but it seems that everyone here can mourn and all are made case.
Now tachadme of racist, xenophobic, what you want, but seeing how things are, many migrants will, but we know that if we go to Thailand, not play with drugs. Here you're caught with "Mary" and you nailed 30 Euros, there you're caught with "Mary" and will be 3 years in prison. We know and we accept it if we have to go do not try and change.
Ah! Telecinco already!, why not recruited them to present the news? not enact equal? It is very easy to criticize the other and accusing someone of not doing so I would not do.
Well, pataleta Tuesday, and dispatched me comfortable ...

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# 1, Javi

November 8, 2008, at 13:10.

Absolutely right in my humble opinion on all of your comments. We have become a hypocritical country that says some things ahead and behind. You can not pretend to exercise your rights over the rules of society that has accepted you as if you want to take advantage of what that company offers you need to get over these rules.

+23

# 2, droblo

November 8, 2008, at 13:20.

2 episodes of American Dad, then 2 of The Simpsons, then in the sixth Family Guy and Futurama ... not contéis with Carlos Lopez in several hours ...

is kind of economy ...

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# 3, ale

November 8, 2008, at 13:29.

The commentary to transcend my two questions: First, the extent to which a media outlet is capable of reaching extremes, to get an interview. Is by no means the only program of false moral and fragelación to society, has already been punished much the issue of xenophobia, as they try to expel offenders from communities. The worst thing is that he is doing a disservice to those who want to work inmigranes who left their country for social problems.
Secondly, Spain has cost many lives and much suffering to become a secular state, please anyone who loves this country not to go to another, today's society is a result of many sacrifices, and there are already too many Islamic societies in the world.

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# 4, Carlos Lopez

November 8, 2008, at 13:30.

# 2, droblo
American Dad I am not going too (it is a family Father of light) so I am multitasking while ordered the blog. However, after meeting Tele

# 5, conan

November 8, 2008, at 13:35.

I totally agree, l @ s who do not accept our customs to be returning to his country, as well as much of this hypocrisy. and lead by example.

+23

# 6, gatuso

November 8, 2008, at 13:41.

The good thing is what some say, of this we have to accept that their culture of stone women like the other day a girl of 14 years and raped twice over stoned, but clearly they are not accepting that ours, we must joderse.

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# 7, All batons

November 8, 2008, at 13:55.

Sure, conan, of course. I understand.

Thus, by analogy, the Andalusia and Extremadura who came to Catalonia in the 60'sy 70'sy still do not speak Catalan also can not you pack?

If there is no more than compare to remaining in sandeces evidence that the principles paletolíticos fascists who sell us some of modern dress.

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# 8, droblo

November 8, 2008, at 14:15.

Well, me too I like these "cartoons for adults", in fact since my early childhood I Pirro for comics of all kinds and even now I read comics as more rare.
And I have lately with one that is a mixture of anarchism and surrealism and anti-called
MONEY Magazine Financial Poetics and Exchange Spiritual.
On the Internet I found some reviews, including this:
http://babel36.wordpress.com/2008/04/07/dinero-revista-de-poetica-financiera-e-intercambio-espiritual/

and one of the stories, and I say that surreal and between and within its anti multicriticismo is something like this:

FNMT mistakenly sends some tickets from 8 to 8 lying and therefore these tickets have a value of infinity. They try to destroy all but one Alberto Minguez retains one of those tickets and clear, as capitalism could not accept that money does not reflect true value, this character automatically becomes the owner of the world and that everything he owned (all of which can be bought with money, supposedly) ... with everything there is a happy ending after a negotiation and the owner of the ticket to access in return for destroying the Earth changed its name to Alberto Minguez.

This week we talked about both the value of money ... I think is quite the case.

# 9, santi27

November 8, 2008, at 14:51.

And that is going to be unpopular but we do exactly the same, it's the Spaniards did in an entire continent or perhaps the Europeans we adapt to Native American customs during colonization.

The comment seems to me sincerely believe only a demagogue and the fact that the television expressly launch this kind of reporting without any basis and handled in large part to exalt the spirit. When I was in Germany gave an interview to the Spanish hotels and rats had, atiborrados of cockroaches and unhealthy, I would comment to my German friend who was insulting me and told me not to worry that the string (RTL 2) gave reports of this kind and none were taken seriously, a sort of tele yellow with Tele 5 that the house well.

And so that the constant discussions that Muslim girls go to school with the Burco, is stupid, the Burco only take you a few married women and, when estube in Algiers take you by the old tradition, nor even the women jobenes not I referred to with that.

I say that personally because this story is ridiculous and the commentary is demagoguery without any real basis, but I am happy for hipotecaohastalamedula for having achieved the largest number of boots and this is more surprising to me that you own story.

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# 10, Minkus

November 8, 2008, at 15:12.

I'm Venezuelan, took 17 years in this great country (with all its faults which of course has them) and I remain fully adapted ... .. That is the issue, those of us that we have to adapt, not vice versa as intended to imply Telecinco. I liked your article, I fully agree with all the contents and forms and this says a SUDACA who never has felt discriminated against in this country .- Congratulations for the article .-

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# 11, EresUnTontolaba

November 8, 2008, at 15:13.

# 9, santi27
I'm up to the very fallacious and the comments estultos that soléis release the four retroburros and ignorantones shift, every time you get the item.

I do not know you, kid, but I was not anywhere to crush Indians. Were you perhaps? Ah, no, that was more than 500 years ago! So tontolaba, why compare it situations NOW with 5 centuries ago. And that's not the worst, the worst thing is that such comparison with the warrants.

Since then, I did something I am ashamed, is not that the Kingdom of Castile (Spain, my friend, did not exist as such) Indian conquests, but that today there are cretins like you acquitted, arguing those barbarities genuine feats .

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# 12, santi27

November 8, 2008, at 15:46.

Fool the Aba.

The last was the 1976 Spanish desconolizacion with the abandonment of Equatorial Guinea and Spanish Sahara (33 years).

The situation now I see it is, with comments like this and people like you, very bad without a doubt.

Nor indeed was there, my uncle and me if that was what counted.

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# 13, ventura

November 8, 2008, at 15:51.

VIVA SPAIN eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee and lower the Euribor!! If lifting the caaaabeeeezaaaaa ... ... .... Don Pelayo echo the Moor, wanting to tread on its soil., Few men, many eggs! Tactics of guerrilla .. bunch of red nipples of shit this time mexico but not ireis pa for morocco

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# 14, ventura

November 8, 2008, at 16:00.

Laba ati fool you beat me in the small l and tea kitaba the college chuches .. do not read many books you have to have a face q q empoyon or the books of the TEO. Further tonight when you let down your x Cuartito and see q 4 eggs have not think you are more Machito q anyone or more your man, but I SERE q q andare close to the true ... x q is defined as SUDACA, you are more Spanish q east of the mandarin fool the aba, and people like you is the q need this country, DQ without you we would not be what q, I respect very much your feedback and wish you a long and flourishing life in this country cn yours, VIVA SPAIN AND ALL THEIR HABITS, LANGUAGE, AND PEOPLE. AND ABOVE ALL THE GOOD PEOPLE OF HEART, Q does not abound

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# 15, magdalena chocolate

November 8, 2008, at 16:25.

# 7, All batons

you say this is nonsense. Andalusia who do not speak Catalan .... But pretty forgiving Andalusia and Catalonia is Spain, both the one as the other.
They should complain Andalusian are living in a community where they are prevented from talking in their language, CASTILIAN.

Signed: A Spanish Basque who lives in without knowing neither pope nor the intention to learn Basque.

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# 16, ventura

November 8, 2008, at 16:52.

AHI AHI MAGDALENA!

ALL PORRES vat you to give me lessons in Catalan, and now you go to Montjuic and he got some flowers for the assesino lluis compaÑs. q safe is your idol anarchist shit PORRERA of the balls, q aki what is needed is tough we are invading Moors, Pasat x gerona or by killing or by any city and see what q there on the street, in a few asin years as a follow up to me to the ire mezkita, that if two cylinders of butane and the old asuanza, laughing, laugh and go on to the democracy of the vividores and lies, what we have q is not a democracy, not for the people, only feeds the people, and I do not say you are not deceived q with the leaders q represent us ... tell a good one? one? by which dariais life? WE ARE ALL PASSENGERS IN OUR WORLD AFFAIRS, BUT IN REALITY YOU WOULD NOT VA beyond itself, the human being he is a left on this planet for no damn to the other ...

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# 17, another here

November 8, 2008, at 17:21.

With plenty of written opinions above can make a clear idea of what this yard, but that did not stop until the aftermath of religions (read scarf, headdress, burka, education for the "panda", a number of indoctrination, and so on. etc. ..) and any other personal mania in the understanding of history very last, that all that is left at home with everyone ... .. And the rest of paisanaje generally understood that the others are just as important as oneself, and that no one can impose the "lifestyle" of some or another, anyone, thinks is as was thought
This leads to travel out and someone shouted that another insult.
Neither Catalan or Basque or Galician, not Castilian, we all discuss everything without preference or disqualifications, room for everyone and we must all, or is it impossible to read at once in two languages?
The Chinese ideogram read any of his, even if you have more than a thousand years, and yet a very remote village on the north by another far south, because it is better not to understand spoken language, but with many dialects that have Nobody calls degüeyo
So those who come from outside, and we're here, entendamonos as well as possible. Os says it needs for one had to emigrate from there and accepted it, while being here, and did not attempt to impose anything, nor does it impose anything. Speaking and understanding the other means throughout the world.

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# 18, Borg Collective

November 8, 2008, at 17:28.

Totally agree with the comment of the week. Racism is a word that is used quite happily for a very Vival sector of the population to try to plug the visitors from some impresentables miseries of other countries that are believed to have come here to impose their customs almost to the force.

In Spain we need a radical change of laws and principles, because we have now, this is a paradise for all kinds of criminals.

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# 19, King Quinito

November 8, 2008, at 17:37.

And the left entering nightclubs with the burka? Well, while not wearing shirts ...

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# 20, esparver

November 8, 2008, at 17:56.

I find it really funny (and sad) as some sulfur when compared attitudes of immigrants from outside Spain by demanding his debolución to their countries while demanding that the Catalans us adapt to the imposition of their language (the Castilian) because we impede them! ! and we are the prohiviendo!!

A part of ignorant, deceived, ethnocentric and xenophobic, brillais with the poverty of the provinces that you Is universal.

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# 21, droblo

November 8, 2008, at 18:10.

Posts to be little "politically correct" as I see many are still in your comments, I chose to do so with humor:

1. The cardiovascular exercise prolongs life. Is that true?
His heart was made to beat a certain number of times ... and stop it. Do not waste these beats in years, because everything is spent. Speed up your heart will not make you live longer; it would be like saying that you prolong the life of your car drive faster and giving acelerones. Want to live longer?, As good sleep naps.

2. Should I stop eating red meat and more fruits and vegetables?
Do what you want, but you have to understand the logic of efficiency. What the cow eats? ... Alfalfa. What is Alfalfa? ... A plant. Well, then, a steak is nothing more than an efficient mechanism to put vegetables on your system. If your body, you need compost or feed grains, eat chicken.

3. Should I reduce the consumption of alcohol?
No way. The wine is made from fruit. The cognac, for example, is a distilled wine. All this means that the water is taken out of the fruit so that you get the most out of it. The beer is made from vegetable base. You can give him.

4. What are the advantages of a regular exercise program?
The philosophy is that unless it hurts, are fine.

5. Are they harmful fried?
Yourself ... Today the food fry with vegetable oil and, therefore, is impregnated with vegetable oil. How can it be bad eating vegetables?

6. Does it help the push to reduce the fat?
Absolutely not. Exercising a muscle just makes it grow in size.

7. Does chocolate harm?
But, man of God! Do not be silly. The chocolate is cocoa and cocoa plant is another. Therefore, the chocolate is a good food to be happy.

And remember: Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of reaching it with an attractive and well preserved body. It is better to adjust the feet in the stirrups, beer in one hand, a good appetizer in the other, much sex, a body totally spent and used, and shout: 'worth it! What a ride! "

POSDATA: WALK AWAY IF HEALTHY, the postman WOULD BE immortal.

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# 22, Anonymous

November 8, 2008, at 18:20.

# 21, droblo

And along with what you say, in the end that's making a "jartada" with what is left of me, the "gusanitos," will be so happy

Pa 'what we have left to live well

# 23, we go to the victims of the northwest

November 8, 2008, at 18:44.

# 20 Esparver

Imposition of Castilian ¿?
Not the needs of Catalan, you do not live in Catalonia. If vivieses there, know well that is not sanctioned by label in Catalan.
And the evil that is Catalonia is precisely that many of pecáis provinces escudándoos in a language and denigrating the other cooficiales, even though spite you.

# 24, droblo

November 8, 2008, at 18:46.

And poniéndome seriously, an interesting biography of the next U.S. president, Marketing, a reality or a mixture of both?

Barack Hussein Obama Jr. currently holds the post of senator from Illinois. After winning the elections on Nov. 4 from 2008 to Republican John McCain, will be the first African American to hold office as president of the United States number 44. This is very strange because he is the second African American in the United States Senate, the fifth in the country's history and only the second Democrat.

Curious, that only 5 senators have been necessary before a black president ... --

Barack Hussein Obama Jr. born on Aug. 4, 1961 in Honolulu, Hawaii. His father, Barack Hussein Obama Sr, born in Kenya and his mother, Shirley Anne Dunham, a native of Kansas, met on the island and decided to form a family there.

Barely two years after the birth of the little Barack, his father abandoned them
a scholarship to study economics at Harvard. Later, it would go to Kenya to work for the government of the African country and Obama would return only to see his father on one occasion.

His mother then married an Indonesian oil manager Lolo Soetoro and Barack went to six years to live in Jakarta. There he attended a Catholic school, where Protestant and a Muslim-majority country, a paradox in his life.

For 10 years, Obama returned to Honolulu and was reared by his grandparents. Remain on the island in the Pacific until age 19, when he went to study political science at Columbia University in New York.

For a couple of years performed community service work with NGOs in the church and then decided to study law at Harvard University, graduating "cum laude". They got the first milestone in his career: to be the first African American to head the prestigious journal of law 'Harvard Law Review. "

In 1988, a publisher offered him the opportunity to publish his memoirs, and Obama traveled to Kenya to seek their roots. Fruit of the trip was born 'Dreams of my father,' which came out in 1995, and in which Barack admits, among other things, having used marijuana and "a blow" for cocaine during his youth.

With a brilliant career, his unique biography and his broad perspective on racial diversity and the great challenges of the world, did not lack offers the best buffet of lawyers in the country, but Obama chose to teach Constitutional Law at Harvard and devote themselves to fight for the defense of civil rights.

As for his political career, which spans over 10 years, began to be elected a federal deputy representing a district of Illinois, Chicago, which brings together university and to vote for the working classes. From the beginning he was honored for being a enfervorizado advocate of social policies, which would be the banner of his campaign toward the Senate.

Come to the Senate in November 2004 after defeating six other Democratic candidates (much better positioned to him) in the party primaries, making it did against the conservative candidate, who won with nearly 70% of the votes.

In a year when his party lost the presidential election, Obama stood as a rising star.

His powerful oratory, his contagious smile, his social discourse, its credibility and ease to win the electorate and cross the ideological lines of race and class, joining voters in one, were his main weapons.

Entetanto, "the new face," with the nickname that was treated by the press and politicians, is also devoted to his family and married Michelle Obama, with whom he had two daughters: Malia, born in 1999, and Shas, two years lower.

The Democrats put their hopes in him and he ordered the keynote address of the party to the Convention held in Boston, also in 2004. In it, his call for hope, unity of the Democrats and continue to believe in the American dream, he lifted attendees of their seats. Many began to project their hopes in the African-American to reoccupy the White House and even came to compare his speech with the speech "I have a dream" ( "I Have a Dream") from Martin Luther King in 1958, in which loaded against slavery and secession. He was baptized, then, as "a shining star in the sky Democrat."
On February 10, 2007, Obama announced his candidacy for the Democratic primary. In a symbolic, before slipping to the Capitol and Abraham Lincoln, took advantage of its strength and ease of connecting with the audience, to appeal to "common hopes and dreams that are still alive" to present his alternative government.

Obama acknowledged his inexperience, which for many is their weakness, but argued: "I know that I have not spent much time learning how Washington works, but I've been there long enough to know that things must change." The senator did not hesitate to lash harshly against the Bush administration: "The United States has faced big problems before, but today our leaders seem incapable of working together with common sense," thinks Obama, who added: "politics has become so bitter and partisan, so polluted by money and influence that we can not tackle the big problems that require a solution. "

Although the Hawaiian did not intend to raise as big a step until 2012, the success of his latest book, 'The audacity of hope', and its promotional tour, made him rethink things. Tails on the outskirts of the stores and the general stir more organized you have created an image of "rock star" politician that austere and traditional.

# 25, Triset

November 8, 2008, at 19:07.

Barack Obama, Blace Black inside out. Estodo marketing.

# 26, Triset

November 8, 2008, at 19:09.

When people buy the X5 was equal Beig and leather upholstery in Black on the outside. What I tell you that the BMW has a colocao pica in Flanders.

# 27, Triset

November 8, 2008, at 19:12.

I know the editor of the News, and I asked him. How could you mount a piece like this? and I replied, And why not?. That is the answer, create debate, talking about the chain, that if you see the bag are a happy life in the Amiga that neither Tye story, was securing the post. At the cost of immigrants, Spanish is as you see, hell.

# 28, aZkEn

November 8, 2008, at 19:12.

If I were to live in Euskadi Basque worry me to learn (not to be philologist, but to defend on a daily basis) the same thing if I were to Galicia, learn Galician. I consider it a sign of respect toward the people of this land, and a little more cultural treasure for me. In addition to the benefits of integration that this implies, to socialize, to find work. I am not saying that it is mandatory, but I do think that everyone should leave.

Personally, I live in Catalonia but my father was born in Almeria and speaks and reads a native Catalan and what he learned on the streets because by then it was forbidden (is true). I was educated in bilingualism and never had problems speaking in either language on either side of Catalunya (I mean it). My partner is from Leon and has been learning the language, which has not had any problems. What is not normal is that such intolerance and narrow hegemonic, when she spoke in Castilian fine anyone, nor lead to a gulag, or force you to change the language. Despite the fact that there may be some radical, though few are always available, the two sides. I do not care who you speak or not, but I think that if you take a few years living does not cost anything at least make the effort to understand it. Incidentally, the bodies of state security, public agencies, etc ... all of you serve in Castilian, and if you depend on the Generalitat and you go to them in Castilian, too.
I hope that nobody will take this comment with visceral, nobody is building bridges of dialogue from rabies.

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# 29, PANDO

November 8, 2008, at 19:19.

EN VARIAS GENERACIONES NUESTRA CULTURA YA NO EXISTIRÁ ,SIMPLEMENTE POR DEBIL , ANTE OTRAS MAS FUERTES E INTRANSIGENTES ……..LE DAREMOS LAS GRACIAS A LOS PUTOS SOLIDARIOS , ONGS ETC … QUE DEFIENDEN A LOS QUE YA HOY NOS ATACAN .

# 30 , tril

8 de Noviembre de 2008, a las 19:27.

28 estoy de acuerdo en gran parte de lo que dices pero yo conozco al dueño de un bar que le multaron por poner en el cartel NO FUMAR en lugar de NO FUMEU.
Es verdad que le advirtieron tres veces antes pero le multaron.

La gente muy maja pero las normas están ahí ya veces las usan…
y esas normas deben eliminarse pero ya

# 31 , sukerman

8 de Noviembre de 2008, a las 19:33.

Yo estoy totalmente de acuerdo con lo que comentas. Si alguien quiere estar aquí que se adapte a las normas y leyes de este país, porque considero que son de lo más “suaves” que existen, vaya. Aquí muchos estrangeros delinquen porque saben que no les va a pasar gran cosa si les pillan hurtando, pegando, etc. Fijaos en las notícias que la mayor parte de peleas, muertes de mujeres, delitos en general, de dónde vienen? quién las suelen realizar?
Y eso de que el que vino de Extremadura y Andalucía tiene que aprender catalán, de eso nada, porque el país es España, mientras no se demuestre lo contrario, y no Cataluña, que es una región de este país, aunque yo digo que es bueno aprenderlo, el saber no ocupa lugar.
En definitiva, lo que hace falta ahora mismo es trabajo para los españoles y después para los demás. Porque los españoles nos solemos gastar el dinero en España, y por tanto, es bueno para nuestra economia.
Saludos.

# 32 , saladino

8 de Noviembre de 2008, a las 19:39.

Allá donde fueres haz lo que vieres.
Esta frase lo resume todo.

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# 33 , magdalena de chocolate

8 de Noviembre de 2008, a las 19:53.

No aprendo euskera por dos razones:
1ª No lo necesito en mi dia a dia.
2ª No me gustan los radicalismos.

el dia que tenga hijos no podrán recibir educacion bilingue porque no existe. Solo se da educación en euskera y el castellano es una asignatura de la que reciben 2 o 3 horas semanales. ¿eso es normal???

Yo estoy a favor del euskera, por su puesto que si, pero de lo que no estoy a favor es de que para potenciar el euskera se anule el castellano. Como si el castellano fuese una lengua de segunda. Están haciendo lo uqe hace años ellos mismos sufrieron cuando les quisieron anular el euskera.

Ya he dicho que hoy por hoy no lo necesito, si un dia tengo un problema por el idioma será tan sencillo como hacer las maletas y marcharme.

Porque…¿yo no tengo derecho a ayuda a mis hijos con los deberes del colegio? ¿no tengo derecho a saber qué estudia?

Mi opinion es que las dos lenguas pueden vivir conjuntamente sin problemas. Pero cuando intentan imponer algo…en vez de avanzar retrocedemos.

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# 34 , Anónimo

8 de Noviembre de 2008, a las 20:23.

# 28 , aZkEn

Me parece bien lo que comentas, pero yo tambien vivo en Cataluña, y no dejan que mis hijos aprendan BIEN, BIEN, ESPAÑOL ,(castellano), pues
no se puede saber una lengua con solo 2 horas a la semana, ni siquiera para defenderse en una prueba a nivel medio en el resto de España.
A las pruebas me remito, si pudieras ver la cantidad de BURRADAS que se
escriben en castellano

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# 35 , cob

8 de Noviembre de 2008, a las 20:32.

Buenas noches.
Yo tambien estoy de acuerdo con el comentario, es mas me parece una probocacion por parte de esta persona musulmana el ir a pedir trabajo a un lugar donde hay un uniforme obligatorio con gorra. Yo por ejemplo si fuese monja no ira a pedir trabajo a un local de alterne y si le dicen que tiene que ponerse tanga diga que es una discriminacion religiosa. Pues a donde podria llegar la estupidez. Uno va a pedir trabajo donde concuerda con sus principios de vida y no a imponer sus principios. Disculpen por favor las religiosas por el ejemplo, lo pongo desde el maximo respeto. Por la evidencia de la imposibilidad.

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# 36 , Shaman

8 de Noviembre de 2008, a las 20:34.

En un dia casi sin noticias vais y elegis este comentario. Je, je se os ve el plumero. Na, es broma, haceis bien asi tenemos algo que DEBATIR. No confundir con GRITAR u OFUSCARNOS, que segun que temas hay para partir el bacalao de tantas formas como usuarios y cada cual al estilo numantino.

Por mi parte, creo que este comentario es de lo mas acertado. En Canada cuando les empezo la ola de inmigracion (creo que primer cuarto siglo XX) las personas que llegaban tenian que hacer un cursillo BASICO de conocimiento de Canada y algunas de sus costumbres. Todo muy basico para personas que venian buscando una esperanza. Era un cursillo muy BASICO, como digo, que sin pecar de patriotero explicaba las principales leyes, simbolos, geografia, etc para que cualquiera se pudiese manejar minimamente en el pais.

Ahora se plantea ese curso aqui en España y sale el radical a decir que el curso deberia ser que el que llega como poco tiene que saber el color de la sangre de Manolita Malasaña y si no fuera del pais, y sale el radical diciendo que eso es un retroceso social y que como se puede obligar a una persona a ser “despersonalizada” que el cruce de culturas da mas cultura.
Ni tan pinto ni tan calvo. Viva el gris entre tanto blanco y negro. Y es que en este pais yo digo que si vamos a un sitio por esta acera inmediatamente el que me acompaña estara pensando que seguro que es mejor la otra.

Y, tambien en cuanto se toca este tema, salen a relucir Cataluña y Euskadi. ¿Porque? No lo entiendo. Hace poco estuve en Cataluña y hace mas en Euzkadi, francamente, salvo algun radical el trato con la gente fue cordial, siendo de Madrid. Cuando en este sentido hablo de radical hablo del que se deja sorber el seso por los politicos que, realmente, son a los que les interesa que permanezca este debate. En mi opinion, si tu actitud al entrar en un sitio es la de “Hola, me llamo….” tienes al personal contento.
En un pais donde se gana el que mas grita, en el que se equivoca NO ES CAPAZ DE RECONOCERLO, poco se puede hacer, salvo incentivar clases de comportamiento ciudadano…… Upppps, y vengo yo a meter otro tema……esto es un no parar.
Es la cultura del “te j*des”, del “si me he equivocado, perdona, pero ahi queda” y del “porque yo lo valgo”.

En fin.

Un saludo
Shaman

# 37 , juan

8 de Noviembre de 2008, a las 20:41.

carlos estoy deacuerdo en todo lo que dices, a mi ese reportaje de tele cinco es absurdo yo tampoco soy racista,el 50% de mis amistades son de color,estrageros,etc…un saludo

# 38 , CHICAP22

8 de Noviembre de 2008, a las 21:02.

Buenas noches,

NOS ANUNCIAN UN 31% DE AUMENTO DE LA FACTURA DE LA ELECTRICIDAD.
AYER EL SR. ZAPATERO DECLARA DESDE BRUSELAS EN SU COMPARENCIENCIA POR TELEVISION QUE NO VALE LA PENA NI HABLAR DEL TEMA, QUE ESO ES IMPOSIBLE.
BUENO, TIEMPO AL TIEMPO, ESO SOLO QUEDARÁ EN UNA MÓDICA SUBIDA DEL 10 O 12%, Y ESTE SEÑOR QUEDARÁ COMO UN GRAN DEFENSOR DEL PUEBLO.
ES LO MISMO QUE HAN HECHO CON EL GAS, LA HARINA , EL ARROZ, ETC, Y SOLO POR QUERER CUMPLIR LAS PROMESAS QUE REALIZÓ EN SU CAMPAÑA ELECTORAL, ESO SÍ, EL SABIENDO QUE NOS ENGAÑABA, Y QUE LO PROMETÍA SOLO ERA A COSTA DEL PUEBLO LLANO, NO DE LAS GRANDES EMPRESAS Y BANCOS.
MENOS MAL QUE ES QUE ESTE SEÑOR ES SOCIALISTA

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# 39 , Paniagua

8 de Noviembre de 2008, a las 21:06.

Pues yo también vi este reportaje y me pareció absurdo, pues no creo que sea racismo, es tan fácil darle la vuelta a la tortilla… También te pueden echar atras por llevar un piercing en el labio o por ser feo en un puesto de atención al público. De todas formas si vienen es porque quieren vivir como aquí y por lo tanto hay que integrarse y en su casa que hagan lo que quieran. Hay costumbres que son compatibles y otras que no tanto, a mí por ejemplo me revienta que se metan en una piscina con ropa y creo que se debería de prohibir por antihigiénico, igual que veo bien que tengan que llevar su uniforme reglamentario en manipulación de alimentos, etc, y hacer lo contrario sería racismo pero hacia nosotros que sí estamos obligados a cumplir la normativa. Creo que estamos atados de pies y manos y no podemos reivindicar nuestros derechos porque en seguida te acusan de racista.

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# 40 , Poble Insubmís

8 de Noviembre de 2008, a las 21:08.

A Magdalena de chocolate:

Puedo llegar a entender que no aprendas euskera porque no lo necesites, de acuerdo. Pero que digas que no lo aprendes porque relacionas un idioma con un tema político me parece de una indigencia intelectual muy patética. Yo soy catalán y jamás me he considerado español pero no por eso me voy a poner a despotricar contra el español, que como idioma no tiene ninguna culpa de haber sido (como otros idiomas) convertido en arma incendiaria de manipulación política. Firma, un independentista. Quien se sienta por encima del bien y del mal, que me llame radical. En fin…

Clopez: llevo mucho tiempo leyendo este interesante espacio de economía aunque no tenga por costumbre escribir comentarios. A pesar de no ser tu intención, creo que no deberías alimentar (aunque sea a través de un interesante comentario no escrito por ti) los comentarios políticos xenófobos de cualquier signo, porque no conducen a ningún lado.

Salutacions!

-13

# 41 , uno que no entiende

8 de Noviembre de 2008, a las 21:09.

que la gente haga lo que quiera , siempre que no moleste el que tiene al lado y salvando , que :
EN MI CASA MANDO YO (i el director del banco)
EN MI TRABAJO MANDA MI JEFE ( y hacienda)
EN MI PUEBLO MANDA EL ALCALDE (y el de urbanismo)
EN MI COMUNIDAD MANDA ( UEVOS )
Y EN ESPAÑA MANDA EL PRESIDENTE ( con el permiso de julian muñoz i el farruquito)

# 42 , en recuerdos

8 de Noviembre de 2008, a las 21:20.

De que los politicos nacionalistas que gobiernan esas comunidades “históricas” desde hace años , solo estan creando mentes muy cortas y cerradas, tengo un recuerdo que paso a comentar:
Hace unos 9 o 10 años, en un viaje de vacaciones a China, con un grupo de personas de varias provincias , entre ellas catalanas.
Entramos en ese pais por el aeropuerto de Pekin, y al pasar el control de pasaportes, algunas de las personas de Cataluña habian añadido unas tapas de plastico con escudo y Catalunya, como pais de la Union Europea, en su pasaporte.
El policia del control a la vista de la tapa, examinó una lista que tenia en su mostrador, y parece ser que no encontraba ese pais en su relación, a lo que llamó , entendimos que era su superior, este nuevo policia extrañado de lo que le preguntaba su subordinado, y comprobando que solo eran unas simples tapas de plastico, que cubrian el verdadero papel que deberia verse en un pasaporte , sin más, el nombre y pais al que pertenecia dicho documento.
Ante el asombro de los que estaban en ese momento delante del mostrador ( toda la familia , o sea 4 pasaportes), cogió las tapas de plastico, las fue quitando una a una de los cuatro pasaportes, y sin decir una sola palabra, las tiró a la papelera y con cara de muy malos amigos, miro a las personas que tenia delante, dijo algo en chino ( suponemos que seria asi) bastante subido de tono y se marcho.
El policia que estaba sentado con el control, selló los pasaportes, ya la pregunta del padre de familia ( en inglés), si les devolvia las tapas, solo se limito a decir NO, en tono claro y alto, ya continuación indicar que pasara el siguiente.
Viene este tema, a que si alguien puede creerse que por que se lo diga quien sea, sin más respuesta y sin más pensar, aleccionan de tal manera a la gente que se creen todo aunque sea un invento, ya le digan que su casa es a partir de ahora “la Republica Independiente de Ikea”.
De paso las barras que llevaban esas tapas de plastico, aviso a los de Aragon, siempre se ha oido que son “Las Barras de Aragón”, aunque parece que se estan apropiando totalmente de su identidad, cuando la verdad es que son de un Reino que tuvo muchos territorios y que nunca , ese Reino de Aragón, ha quitado a nadie el derecho a su uso (lease Mallorca, Valencia, Napoles, etc,etc.)
Saludos

+15

# 43 , chicap22

8 de Noviembre de 2008, a las 21:24.

Sobre el cometario de la semana, creo que ha sido un acierto elegirlo como tal.
Pero pienso que todo es interés puro y duro por desviar la atención de los problemas reales, y una cadena como TELECINCO, la he de catalogar como el preiódico que se publicaba hace mucho tiempo, y que creo que se llamaba “EL CASO”, en el cual se publicaban crímenes, estafas, violaciones, etc.
Es el lugar que ocupa esta cadena, y que me parece correcto.
Pero, en un país con unos 46 millones de personas, creo que pasan cosas, y que no son controlables en su totalidad, alguién tiene que saber sacar provecho de ello.
TODO POR LA “audiencia”.

# 44 , esparver

8 de Noviembre de 2008, a las 21:46.

# 23 , Ya empezamos con los víctimas del noroeste

1- Vivo en Catalunya.
2- es falso que esté prohibido etiquetar en castellano
3- es obligatorio etiquetar en castellano.
4- es obligatorio que los carteles publicos estén almenos en catalán (eso no prohibe el castellano, ni lo denigra, a no ser que pienses que el punto 3 denigra al catalán)
5- No hables de lo que no tienes ni idea.
6- a mi se me obliga constitucionalmente a conocer una lengua que no es la mia y os quejais de que quiera poder usar la mia en cualquier ocasión.
6- Me sorprende que lo mismo que exigis con las costumbres españolas no lo acepteis si lo pedimos los catalanes.

Y provincianismo es pensar que la lengua universal es el castellano.

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# 45 , magdalena de chocolate

8 de Noviembre de 2008, a las 22:05.

# 40 , Poble Insubmís

hijo, no se que comentario has leido, pero el mio no. Aun no he hablado de politica…

Si quieres nos ponemos todos a interpretar los comentarios como nos de la gana ya pegarle la vuelta a todo…

igual es que has estudiado poco castellano y por eso no eres capaz de entender lo que quiero decir.

# 46 , juna de yepes

8 de Noviembre de 2008, a las 22:05.

eres un racista

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# 47 , Eugenio

8 de Noviembre de 2008, a las 22:45.

Totalmente de acuerdo con tu comentario de hoy. Hay mucha demagogia en nuestros días, y cuando alguien encuentra una etiqueta políticamente correcta, todos detrás a colocarla a diestro y siniestro.
Se están confundiendo las cosas y ya veremos qué precio nos pasa este falso progresismo. Un saludo.

(también me arriesgo a ser tachado de xenófobo, racista, etc…)

+15

# 48 , pues no es para ver

8 de Noviembre de 2008, a las 22:47.

# 44 , esparver
De momento, y hasta que no cambie, estas en España, y Comunidad de Cataluña, eso dice al menos la Constitucion, (Ley máxima en estos dias).
Si, es verdad que los carteles deben de estar al menos en catalan, pero tambien para el resto que vive alli ( por lo menos para algunos) deberian de estar en español. No se denigra a la lengua catalana, se trata de poner al castellano a la misma altura, o sease al nivel normal.
A ti se te da el derecho de saber dos lenguas, y tu eliges la que quieras , o las dos, pero a otros ( nuestros hijos), solo nos dejan emplear oficialmente , UNA.
Y si no que se lo pregunten , a los presos de las carceles en Cataluña, que para pedir cualquier tema, le largan un documento SOLO EN CATALAN, ya seas español, africano, irlandes, o vete tu a saber que.
y de paso te enteras de algo.
Por cierto , si entras a la pagina Web de la Generalitat, ¿¿encuentras algo en castellano?? ya me diras donde.

+14

# 49 , Shaman

8 de Noviembre de 2008, a las 22:51.

Me ha gustado el ejemplo es de China.

Yo tengo otro:
En mi viaje de novios a Tunez (sitio recomendable de vacaciones para la economia casera), en uno de espectaculos nocturnos diarios, que consistia en un tipo con un organo con posibilidad de hacer Karaoke, se nos invito a las diferentes nacionalidades a cantar algo. El tipo dijo en otras cosas: “saludos a las buenas tierras de Alemania, Inglaterra,….etc…., y España” (Siempre nos dejan los ultimos no se porque) Y salto un hombre: “¡Y Cataluña!” mirandonos, lo que yo interprete, de manera retadora. Pues vale, para el la perra gorda. Total, que el hombre salio a cantar una cancion de Serrat en catalan y acabamos todos los asistentes aplaudiendo debido a que cantaba de manera mas que decente ya la belleza de la pieza. Y las diferencias se borraron totalmente a los 3 mojitos.
Alla cada cual hasta donde quiere llevar sus arreos.

Un saludo
Shaman

# 50 , Dejad de mentir en pro de una cruzada inútil

8 de Noviembre de 2008, a las 23:12.

#44 Esperver

Te refuto todos tus puntos firmemente.

1. Para vivir en Cataluña sabes muy poco de ella, sólo lo que te interesa de la parte podrida del 10% que desgraciadamente se ha infiltrado como un virus en el parlamento.
2. Se ha de rotular en CATALÁN. No digas mentiras.
3. No es obligatorio etiquetar en ESPAÑOL. Segunda mentira que dices.
4. Desde luego que es obligatorio el catalán y está impuesto de mala manera, hay que joderse que una conocida y asquerosa cadena de restaurantes ponga los paneles en catalán y…en inglés. Y nos jodemos los del resto de España, ¿no? Bonita integración. O que muchas webs oficiales no tengan la versión en español, eso tampoco importa, ¿no? Pero que el inglés o el árabe no falte, nooooo.
5. Tengo demasiada idea de lo que hablo, y tú eres un radical por lo que he visto en tu blog.
6. Lo que se te obliga a ti también se me obliga (y más a mí). No seas victimista.
7. Y sí, sigue pensando en clave excluyente, que Cataluña progresará un huevo con gente como tú. Qué pena.

Os han lavado bien el cerebro con mil historias falsas.

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