Miscalculations

An ancient legend has it Sheram, the Indian prince, was so astonished when they learned the game of chess, who wanted to reward generously Sessa, the inventor of that entertainment. He said: "Ask me anything you want." Sessa replied: "Sovereign, which sends me a grain of wheat delivered by the first section of the board, two for second, four for third, eight in the fourth, and so on until the box 64".

The prince could not please, because the result of that operation S = 1 + 2 + 4 + + 2 ... 63 is about 18 trillion grains. To get that would sow the entire Earth 65 times.

Sometimes I think that some banks have been passed as the prince's story, which first promised the money and then we have estimated and that is not what they had or had human form that he had.

In February 2006 there was a political controversy in the United States following the purchase of the management of six major ports by a Dubai state-owned. The President Bush hailed the operation but the Congress, arguing national security, managed to go delaying the agreement until finally a U.S. company took over the contract. Many Americans were afraid that Dubai-ally regarded by the government but in Muslim-majority manage something as important as the safety of the major seaports of the country.

However, in the financial world, the main U.S. lead months and months looking for money regardless of their origin. The liquidity crisis of confidence and has given back to the tortilla and not know what Americans think of walking but no executives do not disclose financial problems to the savings (and therefore also the management of pensions in a country where they are mostly private), the decision to grant credits and direction of investment by major banks in the world (in the list of those who have received money from Asia are also the Swiss UBS and Britain's Barclays) are largely mediated by governments that are dictatorships (such as UAE and Kuwait or China where there are elections but women could not vote), representing a population largely anti-Western and whose geostrategic interests (such as Chinese) are conflicting with the USA interests.

To top the liquidity available in the U.S. for equities (in the fixed income process is not well) according to official figures has been largely designed by fund managers to buy outside the country:

In the first eight months investors Americans took 68 bn. $ Of equity funds, of which 51.8 bn. were funds that invested in U.S. stock market. A year ago was much worse: entries from 81 bn. $ In equity funds with sales of 16.4 bn. funds that invested in U.S. stock market.

That is, in 2007 bought a large amount of money outside the U.S. and made money out of the bag USA. It could have been by $ distrust toward a thought (that was correct until very recently) of higher returns on assets in yen and € but it is symptomatic: USA managers draw money from the American equities even uptrend and now begging for money Arabic and Chinese.

Should not because the U.S. authorities in their efforts to monitor these flows interventionist? And investors should not arise in Asia that might not be best to buy where there sell? And the big question: Will there be enough money in the world to address this or as the story will have to wait 65 crops?

PS: And since today is a day in which as noted is consummated a change in the chairmanship USA and we're talking about miscalculations might be interesting to recall the cost of the Iraq intervention that the Nobel JOSEPH E. STIGLITZ estimated in March this year and $ 3 trillion according to some voices that should already be in the 4 billion. Money which, remember, has been thrown sunk by as many taxes they pay to state that some companies have won contracts in Iraq, will not arrive or 10% of that figure. Who says that the reason for all the depth of this crisis can not be in this cost themselves when U.S. authorities argue that less than 1 trillion will fix the financial crisis?

And to complete the usual summary of the press in which we are all aware of as he lay on the economy Obama's victory:

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# 1, Carlos Lopez

November 5, 2008, at 9:13.

Interesting question which are made in Cotizalia for veáis that is not so easy to account for assets ...

The chief executive of a big European insurer raised the following question:

"I bought a twelve-bedroom mansion three years ago in the best area of town. Let's say I paid for it 4 million euros. The mansion next door is owned by a neighbor who made the acquisition in a similar moment for the same price. Unfortunately, my neighbor had gone wrong things, it has become an alcoholic, has been fired, his wife has abandoned him, and the bank wants to enforce the security that exists on the mansion. In this situation of desperation, had to sell his mansion at a bargain price, 1.5 million euros. Obviously my neighbor has suffered a loss of assets. Now, do I reflect on my accounts to a loss of 2.5 million because he made a transaction in dire need of a good ilíquido? "

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# 2, maria haineala

November 5, 2008, at 9:17.

I'm going to the last count of .. bank Santander in my opinion the majority of workers are a bunch of useless, I'm working with them ever since I hired the mortgage, since February 2007 and on that account is the only movements that are deposit money and the payment receipt of the mortgage blessed, because the gentlemen from 2007 until yesterday I was asking for the keys to access Internet banking (in different offices, several times) and always had the same problem, could not be accessed at Final call me and said "the computer expert" that is because I do not have a program installed on your computer. It seemed strange because in my Curro working with several banks and did not have this problem, and in the home computer as well. In the end neither had much movement in the account impossible to stop by.
Yesterday, by coincidence serves me a couple wanting to work and tells me that the keys they had given me throughout these almost 2 years were the keys to transfer and not to make moves (is rare because it was not a card with coordinates, but key user and signature).

Anyway what I want to count is that I have to pay mortgage on the 5th of every month. Well, earlier this month was unqualified to 5 so I had to do the day 3.Dos days earlier had laid a transfer of my mind that I arrive on day 3 and later that same day my husband and I were entering money each in an office Santander of us caught near the work, to make the total receipt.
While he was queuing up (it's always an hour without exaggerating if there are more than 3 people), I called my husband and I said that because log 20 euros more will be uncovered with 11, 50.
I go to the cashier did not work out but so what had income from work and do a transfer (for transfers of less than 100 euros I do not charge anything) which conformity my book comes a day siquente.
Well, yesterday I saw that after paying the mortgage and receipt of the account has been uncovered few minutes for me and my husband have paid money and had also reached the transfer, AND FOR THAT WE DISCOVERED 13.35 EURO CHARGE! ! And then 3.45 euros more per day that arrive late in the transfer of 20 euros.

Conclusion: you charge fees for queuing in the bank to deposit money, maybe if they had more employees trained to respond more quickly surely all that money had been saved.

VOSOSTROS think THAT IS NORMAL THAT charge Tapan TO BE DISCOVERED IN THE SAME DAY?

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# 3, mold-jojo

November 5, 2008, at 9:18.

If you do not sell worth more than 4 million.
If you are selling is worth 1.5.
Bone, that the less you need it most.

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# 4, droblo

November 5, 2008, at 9:19.

It is interesting but it is the key to the crisis: the whole is less need for low-sell-to-snowball which problems are most acute and all low and clear, without much interest with buyers and seller continues to fall and dropping everything Low and heritage.
If you can not sell, it's just something theoretical but if you need to sell because they have debts ... just as some banks.

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# 5, david

November 5, 2008, at 9:23.

Today is my baton of 4.73

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# 6, Anonimo

November 5, 2008, at 9:23.

# 2, maria haineala

I do not think the descubierro out for a few hours, surely the cash income that did appear with date of the next day values

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# 7, ruin Solbes zp unions

November 5, 2008, at 9:27.

porrita 4.75

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# 8, ICG

November 5, 2008, at 9:28.

Good morning everyone!

I do not know you but I do love it when I go up the electricity bill.
The NGO that helped to at least invest the money and in trileros thieves.
If not, will die of hunger.
What a nice person I am, God .... but ... like you! jajaja!

Until the 6801 million
The sale of assets to E. ON of Endesa profit shoots a 243.8% until September
Without taking into account the extraordinary, the power would have raised its net profit 20.5% to 2014 million

http://www.finanzas.com/2008-11-05/59726_venta-activos-eon-dispara-beneficio.html

I feel that good to be an exclusive cooperating.

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# 9, Martinez

November 5, 2008, at 9:28.

# 2, maria haineala

Well, I feel a bit exaggerated. I also pay on June 5, and I passed more or less like you, I have only the mortgage on that account, but remember that a holiday could not collect the mortgage on June 5, I called and told me that I would collect little thing delay, 7 is the day he joined, and I charged cents, do not know if it was € 0.68 or something like that, at this point I can not complain.

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# 10, ICG

November 5, 2008, at 9:30.

Indeed, we already have ... Obama to power.

Now we'll see if Zapatero "mulatto" of the Americans did better than ours ...
Just like you do with that ... and we lost.

Jajaja!

PS: You say that the stock market will go up in November by 20% ... BUY BUY! It just!

Greetings and a bit of humor.

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# 11, Anonymous

November 5, 2008, at 9:32.

Wait until you remove the mask and you will see Barack (Obama bin Laden)

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# 12, droblo

November 5, 2008, at 9:33.

Everything indicates that today, when in doubt whether Europe will fall tomorrow 0.50 or 0.75, the Euribor will change little and come out tomorrow before a decision with which we can have two days very stable.

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# 13, marchez

November 5, 2008, at 9:39.

# 6, Anonimo

November 5, 2008, at 9:23.

# 2, maria haineala

I do not think the descubierro out for a few hours, surely the cash income that did appear with date of the next day values

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if the income is after, I think, 11, you get value next day

Even more reason for branded as thieves, a cash income, pasta and cash sonant and still not true until the next day .... that if discovered by the office for missing

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# 14, Harry Clumsy

November 5, 2008, at 9:41.

What's Santander is insane, the treatment to the user (if it has no appearance of having pasta) is harmful and psychological abuse.

It is not the only, there are many entities that usually you look up and down as if you spare their lives.

But the fault lies not in them is not to send our kindly to the European Parliament.

I have seen cases of people battered by banks to tell them that, go to that entity have good treatment and do not charge commissions.
And you respond to that entity is his whole life.

Bridging the gap, remind me of some battered women, which suggest that a similar type to leave the abuser, and they say, is that my PACO is very good problemilla only has somewhere to drink! Your Paco is a CAB .. ON! and you are blind

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# 15, fyahball

November 5, 2008, at 9:43.

# 12, droblo

Maybe not. Perhaps today should continue to decline and religiously not be stable.
The lower rate is more than discounted ... it's like, what happens here has to do with the dynamics of reckless ECB rates to go down, but mainly, the Euribor goes down because the ECB puts on the table the money it is necessary, open bar for everyone ... and the little machine to make billetitos throwing smoke ... We will see what has just as much irresponsibility ...

BURN DEM ALL!

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# 16, Anonymous

November 5, 2008, at 9:45.

In this country we have loyalty to the banks, dealers loyalty and fidelity to couples, and often none of them deserve jajajaja

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# 17, droblo

November 5, 2008, at 9:45.

Fyahball months but hopefully lead by making pasta and the Euribor continued to rise ...

and with respect to Santander ... it is clear that a bank that has benefits that are in a context such as the current fucked up somewhere ... then it will draw no wonder nothing that he said.

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# 18, brian

November 5, 2008, at 9:46.

I bet 4.777

Come and see if we all get positive energy and that is falling 0.75

King of the coming years make your effort in too, by the way your name?, which not so long ago that salts ...

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# 19, funcionator

November 5, 2008, at 9:46.

# 2, maria haineala

First you do not normally charge these commissions if the thing is solved in the same day. In any case if you talk to the director of the branch you should remove the rechistar, otherwise it would be quite rare.

Anyway if I let the indiscretion of the commentary, don 't you think that your management that account of the shooting mortgages are racing a little things that let deadlines and quantities? Can you compensate for this unproductive waiting in front of maintaining the account balance a little more comfortable, and maintain tighter the other (s) account where the money to get transferred?

In the end, with the latter do not intend to get into your stuff, so I hope you do not bother. But is it called my attention.

Salu2

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# 20, Concerned

November 5, 2008, at 9:48.

# 8 ICG,

That is precisely one of the things that I contest. Increases in the light why there is a shortage of electric charge ... and giving benefits.

NEVER, NEVER should have been privatized companies whose products are essential for the welfare of the people; whether electric, gas or whatever.

These companies should be under total control or supervision of the state, and never give no benefits, and investing geared to serve the citizens, and remove both manager and advisor with sueldazos useless for doing nothing (except to give more benefits to hang medals in the shareholders meeting).

Something we have been wrong in recent years with so much shit from privatizations.

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# 21, SBF

November 5, 2008, at 9:48.

for porrilla, 4785
Health!

(yes we can)

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# 22, santi27

November 5, 2008, at 9:51.

I wanted to make a comment but is not much to tell. I started till June this year and had thought about requesting an increase because charging little and take 5 years in the business but thanks to read this forum and to see Intereconomía now, I have not asked for the increase and I almost kiss my head every day when I come to work.

If continuous reading this forum and ask to see Intereconomía believe that a reduction of salary at year end.

I mean that one has to be a little optimistic and believe in overcoming society, where we carry so many bad because the data and looking desperately.

Yesterday they said that had the highest unemployment since 1997, this means that there is the same standing as in 1997. Who can compare a figure as absurd as this, since when unemployment is at absuloto value.

I mean that if there is a problem with unemployment, but because we're doing even more catching and giving the news of the figure most unfavorable. If we say that unemployment is about 11% of the workforce, is not news to 80% in the recent history of Spain I had a zifra unemployment higher than this, but if we say that there is the same unemployed since 1997 sounds horrible.

And then comes a report from Reuters saying that unemployment reached 18% in late 2009. What credibility can have a report to 1.5 years in the midst of a crisis, routers does not have the slightest idea of unemployment to be at the end of 2009, just as nobody knows which will be the level of the bag at the end of the year and much at least the end of 2009.

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# 23, Anonymous

November 5, 2008, at 9:53.

Obama represents to me, youth, progress, change, the union of cultures, see what comes out of there.

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# 24, stop

November 5, 2008, at 9:56.

I had a dream last night that I just erotico in orgasm ... ..
in the morning 06/11/08 dreamed that falling interest rates
and 0.75 points in the Euribor before year-end be below the
4% by privera in 2009 to below 3.5% ... ..
when I was woken up and decided to call and e soaked the witch lola
to give me his prediction ... told me that I will put 2 black candles .... but what I dreamed is real ... morning is expected greetings and a great day ... ..
Today my nightstick 4764

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# 25, magdalena chocolate

November 5, 2008, at 9:56.

is not whether Obama will be good, but if that mcain would not ...
Today my nightstick 4.786

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# 26, SA TRINXA

November 5, 2008, at 9:57.

The Bank of Santander are thieves.

I had my accounts, my money, my actions with them, and I paid a paste that you die in committees, even charged me the stamp of mail that I sent home (yes, I paid the stamp and they got me good Advertising on the envelope), plus it is impossible to make money in a cashier's Santander at the weekend because there is never (well imagine to pay by card and bagging them their 2% commission).

So one day I said that it withdrew all my assets and then the Director of the Office told me "no man, not withdraw, if the commissions are negotiable", and then I told myself "I've looting years and I you say now? ".

So I took all of Santander and went to Barclays, and happy. When I go to the office almost never queue, and treat me well, and I receive some commissions,,, seems to lie that there is constant abuse to customers, because it Caja Madrid, that's Trace ...

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# 27, alberto

November 5, 2008, at 10:01.

CLópez, a small detail:
4,845 + 4,808 = 9,653;
9,653 / 2 = 4.8265;
rounding the final digit: 4827
Is nonsense, a small slip clouds that your magnificent no comment.
A greeting

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# 28, jdx

November 5, 2008, at 10:02.

Today I do not think that fall from 4.8

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# 29, droblo

November 5, 2008, at 10:04.

santi27,
a pessimist is a well-informed realist,

The figure of unemployment is grim, there's no where to take it and not by what you say 1997 (also) is the speed of the destructive trend of employment. Worse, if the recession lasts a year (which is the most optimistic version) Please be assured that in a year does not generate employment while bringing no longer destroyed (again a very optimistic) the rate will not change and the state will have spent millions who can not spend on creating public employment for example ...
as if the data indicates the crisis lasts more than a year and continues to destroy jobs ... Tell me how you are going to recover these posts ...

Hopefully I am wrong but it looks very very bad.

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# 30, Optimistic?

November 5, 2008, at 10:05.

for 22 #

Optimistic? do not ask for increases to believe that cobras bit? Give kisses to the heads? 5 years ago when things were going well many of the workers agreed not? However now we are the culprits. No sir! Everyone is valued according to their attitudes and skills and I'm going to work, I am responsible and claim what I think I deserve no kissing anyone or I'm going to thank anybody because I do not give away .. the time of slavery, and caziques ended a long time ... so we will.

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# 31, krollian

November 5, 2008, at 10:06.

Since when capitalism has scruples?
I say this because dictatorships are handled better ...

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# 32, toad

November 5, 2008, at 10:07.

# 23, Anonymous
"Obama represents to me, youth, progress, change, the union of cultures"

It's amazing how well does the marketing, Obama is like a trademark.

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# 33, krollian

November 5, 2008, at 10:08.

I ask that the CIA ...

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# 34, hesitant

November 5, 2008, at 10:09.

I've time reading this forum, and I've learned a lot from him, now I have a doubt about my mortgage, the explained by me if you can help:

Mortgage conditions: E +0.8 (if you hire such a cut 0,3)

In the bank sold it to me as a mortgage of E +0.5

Now when I receive receipts, I realize that what they do is applicable E + 0.8 and once that separate capital and interest, I reduced the interest in 0.3.

In this way, paying € 10 less per month than if I apply the E +0.5, but 10 € capital with which to reach the next revision will have ceased to pay 60 € (six-monthly review) that generate interest with regard to I have to pay those final 60 € plus interest.

Is this always tends to do well or I have reason to protest?

Thank you.

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# 35, Key

November 5, 2008, at 10:12.

Hello everybody!

Well my club for today is: 4787%

Suerte!

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# 36, Good Night and Good Luck!

November 5, 2008, at 10:16.

I am glad that Obama has won! This may change serel cycle that will help us take the necessary momentum to start seeing the light at the end of this tunnel as black.
S luck to everyone, and this will! Even many who want it to last more!

The Euribor leads giving us many days of happiness for the mortgage, and today will not be an exception.
Euribor today: 4.782

For this it is that it wanted the Euribor continue to rise, and the types tb, remind you that tomorrow Trichet down 0.5 - 0.75% so you have savings and want to get the max. profitability, or does it now or will have to wait a few years.
Today what I have in the bank, 3 weeks ago I took a deposit of 1 year, Bancaja gave me a 5.78% APR (not bad)
Today I went by I had another small corner of which I do not want to play for future amortization (for which the best is a deposit, and forget it) and I have offered Bancaja 5.10 APR (for the same period as above) , So I'm going to carry that little corner to one that I think this pretty well. Os step the info. 15meses 6.37% APR https: / / www.cam.es / ES / Owners / Savings / deposits / Pages / Deposit-oportunidad.aspx

:-)

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# 37, Ramo

November 5, 2008, at 10:18.

# 1, Carlos Lopez

A mansion housing in general I would say it is LIABILITIES, not ACTIVE.
Assets: bonds, stock exchanges, investment funds
Liabilities: housing, car, consumer credit ...

No?

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# 38, josellweb

November 5, 2008, at 10:21.

# 2, maria haineala

Hi Mary,

I am also a mortgage with BSCH, unsure of the house, receipts, etc, etc. and I'm with you that are a bunch of useless Total separate charge of trying for everything, including the sending of the receipt of the mortgage (0.29 €) that sends noses.
Its employees are not very competent to say. I step on one occasion what you do, but what is more me when I contest the mortgage repayments, they command a fax where I tell them in bold and big that carries no penalty, according to the conditions and sometimes I loaded the 1% and sometimes not, so I have to be always looking over the Internet and claiming, that if you take away the money, and you claim you give to 3 or 4 days and tell me that their system is that it allows us. I say, a company that earns € 10,000 a year can not afford to invest in technology, but have shown me that that is not, but depending on who does or does not begin charging the account, you load or not .
I have also recently changed to ING Securities deposits because it had not paid them if and maintenance.

PD-Let it be clear that I have a few shares of this bank.

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# 39, MACGREGOR

November 5, 2008, at 10:22.

# 2, maria haineala

I do that every time any transaction with my bank to stop insist that put value on the date today.
If you do not often get a date for the movement and the other vecha value or which is the actual counts.
They are more expensive than back but it's how it works.

With regard to your question, yes, it is normal to charge for an overdraft, and also it is normal for you to charge € 15 or € 20 for the genstionar discovered.

What we do not see it as normal is that you charge that amount for a few hours in my bank (bank pastor) discovered a tube for a few hours and I charged, but were 6 cents.

Surely says # 6, Anonimo
1 was discovered your whole day.

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# 40, Anonymous

November 5, 2008, at 10:23.

# 26, SA TRINXA

November 5, 2008, at 9:57.

Well Caja Madrid to access the internet forced me to have a VISA card ...

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# 41, Anonymous

November 5, 2008, at 10:25.

05/11/08 10:28 1 m. 3 m. 12 m.
USA 2.20 3.12 4.00
EURO 4.33 4.63 4.66
Japan 1.16 1.68 2.32
Canada 2.70 2.97 3.29
United Kingdom 5.25 5.16 5.04
Denmark 5.75 6.10 6.15
Sweden 4.40 4.42 4.86
Switzerland 1.73 2.89 3.63

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# 42, curious

November 5, 2008, at 10:26.

baton 4.786

# 3 mold-jojo

"If we do not sell worth more than 4 million.
If you are selling is worth 1.5.
Bone, that the less you need it most. "

In the latter, matizaría that "it is not the richest but most have the least need ..."
... But that that if we do not sell 4M worth ... I can not see it very clearly.
The price of things is not real until it is not done the transaction of the property, that is "worth 4M hypothetically." In any event is worth what a prospective buyer willing to pay this at a given time.
As we do not know the time nor the alleged buyer, we can not say that neither is worth 1 or 2 or 28m.

Your reasoning has been the problem that we have suffered so far ...
I have a pisito worth 28m it put up for sale and it is not me nor 8M because there are no buyers or purchasing power. We have fucked up! Both da if I need it or not, what is clear is that I do not have anything other than "a flat" no matter what "goes".

It's Santander ...

everything is so big for small treatment received by the customer. As happens with La Caixa, BBVA, Carrefour, and other mega-monster-enterprises, which have become a client to be allowed to treat you like a dog!
THAT WE ARE THE CUSTOMERS THAT THE CUSTOMER IS THE KING! (PPIO CORE OF THE TRADE RELATIONS)
I always try to work with small, you "take care" more, they treat you better know your face ...
And above all, buy in small neighborhood shops, at least you're not with the typical / a cashier / a chewing gum and that does not give you or good morning when you get right up to him / her.

(Tochaco Oops, sorry)

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# 43, Mesmer

November 5, 2008, at 10:26.

Calculation errors ... and Santander, by what I read in the forum. I too have been the victim of "traps" of the "We want to be your bank" ... I once sent by corrreo a regular credit card that I had not requested. According to the propaganda that accompanied it was some sort of gift for being a good customer (who certainly do not forgive, nor a commission). According drawn card, I did it with scissors and a PLIS plas was reduced to four pieces of plastic that went to the trash.

Six months later, when I upgrade my book, I see that I have gained 36 euros to commit to keeping that card NI whether you want to enable. I contacted the telephone service customer of SCH, but I served for nothing because it lacked some key operational in no time I had been given. I finally had to lose one morning to go through the purgatory of the branch to finally cancel the card and I return those 36 euros. Pro course that was canceled receipts domiciled in the account which now is limited to provide support for my mortgage.

From my experience of "Private Client", Santander Nunca Mais.

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# 44, Dalma

November 5, 2008, at 10:28.

Buenos dias,

Today I honestly do not care what the Euribor. Yesterday my father was an ostentatious traffic accident and escaped unscathed, that if the car total loss. A car with less than 10 years that was flawless and now has to buy one. It's a shame that insurance function well, but well .... Embistieron him and dragged him from the road, the car ended up belly. So today gave thanks to God for having protected and have come out unscathed. Many times we think that money is everything and most importantly the lives of those around us and ours.

A kiss to everyone and we do not come misfortune to anyone.

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# 45, mad

November 5, 2008, at 10:30.

# 41, Anonymous
November 5, 2008, at 10:25.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

If these values are those of CIMD, are worth the same as a European Parliament: NOTHING. A

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# 46, Anonymous

November 5, 2008, at 10:31.

# 2, maria haineala
Well, guess it's a matter of will, as a whole.
Banco Popular left me overdrawn the account (and me a weekend without a hard) for a mistake you and I wanted to charge ~ $ 12 just for the management of the discovery.
With La Caixa I had discovered some (several days) for dismissal of mine, I have been called by telephone to warn me and I have taken only the interest (reasonable) discovered by the day that I've had.
And people who know him exactly the opposite

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# 47, Anonymous

November 5, 2008, at 10:33.

The Santander's ... taking a mortgage or nominated in the bank should charge ... NO .... I at least is well. 0 euros.

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# 48, shocked

November 5, 2008, at 10:34.

I have read around, qu the foreseeable drop in rates tomorrow, is more than discounted by the Euribor. COMORRRR?

That can not be discounted were the increases, the price of money came to 4.25% and has been in the Euribor 5.50%, but now it is at 3.75% and the Euribor at 4.80% What the hell is going to be discounted not decreased?, but we have come to believe that by the Euribor eggs should always with a spread of 1 percentage point above the price of money ?????, understood as a logical differential 0 , 25%, or maybe it really logical, it would be that the interests that we take a stool we should be the same as the ECB charged to those stool. Ie. The Euribor should now be at 3.75%, and whether the ECB will lower rates, as the Euribor should accompany him !!!!!

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# 49, Anonymous

November 5, 2008, at 10:35.

I encourage Dalma.

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# 50, JAC

November 5, 2008, at 10:36.

# 37, Ramo

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Liabilities = obligation

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A good (whether movable or immovable) is a right, Bone, an asset.

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