Deudalandia

We could say that statistically in Iceland are women more beautiful and the guys in the world, because with only 300,000 inhabitants have succeeded in placing a Miss world and they have two winners of the championship of the world's strongest man. In addition, they are a people ready since 99.9% of the population is literate and to finish the slaughter, live much as their life expectancy is 81.5 years, the second highest in the world. All this together with the air pacifist who have not offered the army. Without doubt a place to live, do not bother you if the cold and darkness. In fact, the chess Bobby Fisher ended his days there, although it was not very sane.

But what it does not feel proud, and if we win by win is in debt. If six years ago had wanted to pay all debts that have their banks abroad, they would have consisted of each of its inhabitants about $ 26,000. Much huh? but the worst comes now, if you wanted to pay its debts today, they would have to pay $ 280,000 apiece.

Much has been written on the net about the situation in this country (even commented here six months ago) and little new we can provide. It really impresses us is that a European country can go bankrupt but remember that only has 300,000 inhabitants and therefore we need to give it the importance it has. In fact, the Banco de Santander (which posts to wander, we could imagine in bankruptcy) has nearly 130,000 employees which means they may have more workers than Iceland whole.

At the end everything comes to an Icelandic saga root in interest rates so high that they had (15%) in an environment of moderate inflation, thereby sparing amount of international (mainly English) to invest their savings and there it was worse for the Icelanders, the amount of loans it asked both the public and businesses and banks outside the country, attracted by lower interest abroad. The successive devaluations of its currency did the rest.

A few days ago, a British financial portal made public the letter sent by the Internal CEOs of Landsbanki, one of the great institutions nationalized the country, to employees (Short and hit Expansion):

"Times have changed. In recent weeks, the international financial markets have deteriorated and were not seen since the beginning of the century. Many banks have fallen and others will do. Governments are taking extraordinary measures to adapt to change. Iceland is now the victim of the lack of liquidity that plagues the world. "

As you can see, there is no risk-free return and eventually much higher rates irrationally low as just giving problems. In this case will be that the IMF has to come to the rescue as if it were a Third World country and launch a plan of 4,500 billion Euros. Everything is a clear example of which was bought a bike that they could not.

As curiosity and demonstration of that money is very miedica, Icelanders who no longer have confidence in its banking like crazy looking for alternatives for their savings and including luxury watches have become a good alternative, at least so says a representative Rolex.

"Customers want something they may have in your hand. They have no confidence in the numbers of their computers, because they saw these numbers fade "

This statement must be fuck with tongs (it seems more a press release of the watch), but it is clear that if there are any good tangible fear gives us more security.

And to finish with the Icelandic saga and the wisdom that lately are taking the rating agencies, let us not forget that not many years ago the bonds of Iceland had the credit rating of AAA, (and subsequently downgraded to Aaa, which is not bad) let's see which stated year and a half ago.

"Iceland is not experiencing excessive risk to the solvency or liquidity as a result of the recent volatility in the financial and business cycles," said Moody's Investors Service in a note published today. The firm maintains the highest rating of Aaa to the island's north.

"Iceland is well positioned to deal with any potential problem in its financial resources that might emanate from a systemic problem in any sector of its economy," says the analyst. "Our rating of Aaa is compatible with such a scenario," he adds.

The key ....

So in conclusion, let's see what we have today means:

Written by Carlos Lopez on Oct. 22, 2008 with 388 points.
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# 1, Solbes ruin zp

October 22, 2008, at 9:29.

Today my nightstick 5.078

collapses the euro against the dollar and yen

good days

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# 2 Anonymous

October 22, 2008, at 9:32.

And when gasoline at half price? Here it is clear that this is not well said: "Everything that rises low," ... noses.

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# 3, Anonymous

October 22, 2008, at 9:33.

Baton: 4983 (want to give an effect of lowering, and then clavarnosla again)

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# 4, sherpa

October 22, 2008, at 9:35.

Today, the Euribor to 5.069 ....

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# 5, Poor Hablador

October 22, 2008, at 9:36.

This morning I will go to renegotiate the difference with my body (Bancaja, E +1.25).

Deseadme luck and if someone wants to give me your advice, the better. Thanks forearm! ;-)

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# 6, ruin Solbes zp

October 22, 2008, at 9:36.

intersects the yen to 127.04 and 1.2827 to the dollar.

go cloth. q temgan the poor in a multi yen. that will not be few.

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# 7, Marinet

October 22, 2008, at 9:37.

If the Euro is cheaper with the dollar gained in exports, would not be a bad time to see a change to 1.10 and also revive our products to the outside (of course europe).
PS: What if I would urged the Chinese currency, which does not cost anything to dream.

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# 8, Solbes ruin zp

October 22, 2008, at 9:37.

# 5, Poor Hablador

eu +0.39 ibanesto.com and you pay the expenses of subrogation, when tenhgas a binding offer the show on your box or you go.

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# 9, let your body joy Macarena

October 22, 2008, at 9:37.

# 4, sherpa

I've removed my bet because I 5.068 ...

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# 10, CARLOS

October 22, 2008, at 9:39.

Good news for everyone. I leave with you here the weekly financial newsletter that sends me my bank.

I leave with you and summary link:

SHORT-TERM RATES
The Euribor 12 months to continue relaxing to levels around 5.05% at the end of next week.

MEDIUM-TERM RATES
By the end of the first quarter of 2009, the Euribor to 12 months could be around 4%.

http://www.cajamadrid.es/Ficheros/CMA/ficheros/BoletinSemanal_17oct08.PDF

Greetings!

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# 11, Net

October 22, 2008, at 9:39.

Buenos dias,

baton: 4498

Greetings

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# 12, Anonymous

October 22, 2008, at 9:39.

Poor Hablador

Fortunately, the truth know the exact circumstances of that credit, but we have room for a little wound ...

Euribor 5.062 ...

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# 13, Solbes ruin zp

October 22, 2008, at 9:40.

with the rise in the dollar against the euro, or fall in the euro and the dollar, it does not matter. already have the perfect excuse for not lowering gasoline, the change of DIRAN q currency affects about them and what's not;

choricetes is what they are, but ....

nobody them to their feet to the oil companies?

Mr government, which spends ????? lene wake.

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# 14, Breogan

October 22, 2008, at 9:40.

# 5, Poor Hablador

Threatens to subrogarte, usually work pretty well. Anyway a spread of 1.25 slashing usury!.

In Cajamadrid if wearing at least 3 years with the mortgage you subrogated to the Euribor + 0.25.

Euribor forecast for today: 5.084

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# 15, sirialuna

October 22, 2008, at 9:41.

I now porrita for 5098 but if I were I ponmdria at 4.5% through April jejejeje I hope that I get checked enough to not have as big an increase, and the other mortgaged too clear.

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# 16, Solbes ruin zp

October 22, 2008, at 9:41.

# 11, Net

pasote which downhill Ojala was true. should shame by bullfighter.

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# 17, Lopez juanfer

October 22, 2008, at 9:41.

Hello everybody.

Can you advise me? Bankinter (institution where I have a mortgage) offers me the next 4 years to pass an interest rate of 4'95%. If the Euribor rises over the Euribor offer me 5'45% - 0.5%.

Come on, to speak out the "trolls", jejejeje. The bank did not give away anything, if I say this q q envisage at least 2009 Euribor my differential (0.4) will be below 4'95%.

Thank you.

And good for the club's Euribor today: 5'088.

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# 18, saspiki

October 22, 2008, at 9:42.

12 anonymous myself.

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# 19, Solbes ruin zp

October 22, 2008, at 9:43.

# 14, Breogan

who pays for the expenses of subrogation? As more or less would amount to a population of 114,000 hiccups?

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# 20, Follo with Fatatas

October 22, 2008, at 9:43.

# 5, Poor Hablador

Extremely lucky, with that gap quite certain that stretch, and tell us how you really gone.

My bet for the club:
- 5058

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# 21, Euriibitor

October 22, 2008, at 9:43.

My baton to 5.062 today.

If the trend continues well into December we will see that the EURIBOR lower the Euribor June, which would be reviewed every six months than those that would lower fees. Those who reviewed annually, will be from May when start to the Euribor to be lower than the values of the previous year.

Why do people think that the next meeting of the ECB will lower rates? I believe that by the time the knife will remain in his thirteen, and with more ground after being forced to drop 0.5 coup. (waits to see how affects the lower 0.5) Perhaps for December-January if things go well, move (but this is only a humble opinion)

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# 22, Silver

October 22, 2008, at 9:44.

Buenos dias,
Come to that rating agencies have punished me face to the wall ... .. to say the least .... And these people are paid a salary and everything?
Should return !!!!!

My baton: 5098

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# 23, CARLOS

October 22, 2008, at 9:44.

Baton: 5.081

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# 24, Mano H20

October 22, 2008, at 9:45.

That whiff more rare today in the air!

¿¿It is today is the day of the six "B's"?

The Euribor down to 5030
Lower rates to 3.25
The bags down 4.5
Diesel down to 0.99
Down $ 1.26 to the euro
Down $ 64 a barrel

Wake Hand, which dawns, the cierzo blows and it rains!

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# 25, Euribitor

October 22, 2008, at 9:45.

Well, as I was to advance # 12, Anonymous, swap my forecast for 5063

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# 26, Col.

October 22, 2008, at 9:46.

Today I take the ham: 5077. I was the kid excel.

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# 27, Poses

October 22, 2008, at 9:46.

Euribor baton:

5.083

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# 28, Solbes ruin zp

October 22, 2008, at 9:48.

q seems to expect a more moderate fall, to see if the knife is stretched tomorrow, I doubt it, with, so q is stingy. I suppose there will be q wait one or two Meese.

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# 29, brian

October 22, 2008, at 9:49.

I 5084, these days I think it touches and small declines ...

indeed, the chart to the right of the topic of the day is the best I've seen in months in this forum!

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# 30, Nocrom

October 22, 2008, at 9:49.

Good morning and good luck,
Truncheon
5111, I gave my non low of 5 until Dec. 20 with the Spanish lottery jeje.

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# 31, Solbes ruin zp

October 22, 2008, at 9:50.

that what is bad q passing many families.

The demand for help to Caritas in Spain rises 40%

to economic crisis has meant that for the first time in the last fifteen years the demand for welfare assistance to Caritas Spanish interrupt its downward trend. Only in the first half of ...

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# 32, Purification

October 22, 2008, at 9:50.

Baton: 5.087

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# 33, saspiki

October 22, 2008, at 9:50.

# 21, Euriibitor

The ham is 75% of mine who I've copied :-))

As to what the annual review there is a small percentage (there will be any more) than to build in the first year mortgages have a fixed and the Euribor affects us before May. In my case 5.10 years first to review fixed the Euribor December (E +0.5), 4.5% I need to tie, bets are accepted ...

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# 34, Anonymous

October 22, 2008, at 9:51.

And tell us the stories we believe.
We have been saying that the problem was that banks were not relying on one another and what we have believed.
The reality is that banks do not have money, but where's the money? MONARCHS OF FUNDS IN THE COUNTRY PETROLEUM (some) AND CHINA.
If this is a problem and we have to lay all the meat on the grill.

1 .- BLINDER large European companies. (For those who do not buy).
2 .- GET THAT DO NOT REMOVE THE PASTA OF MARKETS, ON THE CONTRARY would lead us to bankruptcy. This goal is very chungo because I did not mind another idea to pay more for their money.

Is that why the dollar is taking so strongly?

Greetings

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# 35, Fran Diaz

October 22, 2008, at 9:52.

Worst of all is that every country in the world have had to come to the rescue of its banks as if it were tercemundistas countries. So, not only for Iceland, Europe and the entire world have been wet. I do not know whether to say or shameful disgrace, to see what is worse.

My baton, risky: 4.998

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# 36, ecam

October 22, 2008, at 9:52.

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It is pathetic and even children that most of the comments relate to a baton to "guess" the Euribor intraday. It's really distressing that this occurs in an economy that is considered serious. Obviously everyone to do what you want but it is completely absurd and devoid of any informative value.

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# 37, ICG

October 22, 2008, at 9:52.

Very good morning,

One question you do: Have you seen this morning on the news to Solbes Cogreso uploaded to the podium?

And ... you have seen what he said? Is that I stay flipo ...

And will release that "the PGE Budgets are the most appropriate to the moment we are living, that the important thing is that no lines have been cut social" and above (and this is good!) And goes after loose ... "not only have not been cut ... but we have grown as we see in line for unemployment.

Eye to the subject ... more for the UNEMPLOYMENT ... ...! And that means that it will increase unemployment in a "never seen". Solbes budgeted for that because something before it happens ... too fat to do this that.

And if you fijáis ... the most worrying as I believe, is that after saying this, Mr. Solbes was left in silence for 3 or 4 seconds ... and that is where I see the problem, because at that time I imagine what he would be thinking ... "My Mother ... which comes on top. We are not saved or the Macarena! "(Dedicated to Carsola" or rei ")

How we see? Or if you see during the day, please set at the details of the statements of the gentleman.

Greetings!!

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# 38, Lopez juanfer

October 22, 2008, at 9:54.

By the way, it makes me grace when the media talk about the fall of the Euribor of these days, who does not think a day has fallen to EURIBOR the values of half or 3 years ago.

Why go up when the Euribor always say that a mortgage is half bla bla encarecerá not be soon a month? I think we should say that half the mortgage has been expensive, but since 2005, that he was dropping his face in shame to whom it may concern.

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# 39, I repeat the question yesterday

October 22, 2008, at 9:54.

# 229, Pension Plan

October 21, 2008, at 14:30.

Hello: A question for anyone who knows the subject.
I had understood that a pension plan could not be rescued except:
Have the retirement age.
That took more than a year in unpaid unemployment benefit.
Apart from the disease permanently or invalidate absolute.
The other day I found out there that have more than 52 years and if you're on the dole can rescue him. You know if it is true that I have read or wrong?.
I know urgiria but only if you are safe. In the bank director said that this possibility is not covered. The fact is that I could save a pretty tight situation.
Thanks and regards.

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# 40, funcionator

October 22, 2008, at 9:54.

# 17, Lopez juanfer

Yourself what you say.

Now, the rate is not bad yet, and depending on your situation and personality can be very valuable sleep better, at least the next 4 years ;-)

In my opinion, the situation for this period is huge open.

If the measures taken curd, is a very likely scenario of low rates, and that economic growth will also hit.

If you do not jell, which may well be, there remains a margin increase of the Euribor high. What we do not want to think is also whether there was a point where it becomes apparent that the state, the last lifeboats, has exhausted its resources.

In short, do not say anything new with this, but maybe bring something to exchange "intuitions" I do not think that much more supply at the moment.

Personally dashing through the first, but with many reservations.

Certainly Carlos, following the analistos on Iceland: I personally have long ignored totally and absolutely what he says any of these vendors selling motorcycle.

The only thing I use is common sense as far as possible, so that people can say that this union has shown some truth as Paul Krugman, GOERGEN Buffett or Soros, the information in this forum, and otherwise to intuit what that might happen.

Salu2

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# 41, Breogan

October 22, 2008, at 9:55.

# 19, Solbes ruin zp

The expenses are paid by them. I offered a few months ago but as yet not been 3 years with the mortgage I could not change. But I thought if it can change.

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# 42, J.

October 22, 2008, at 9:57.

5.100%

I think it is going to make the bum a couple of weeks (today the Nikkei has given the scare), before continuing with the descent.

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# 43, Silver

October 22, 2008, at 9:57.

# 37, ICG

I have not seen, but by your words I to the idea, even I imagined ... I was very sad! and worst of all is that I imagine the inside of two years as top heroes tirandose flowers that have emerged from the crisis thanks to them ... and the worst thing is that people will believe it! As for the 400 euros!!
Next year we play with the income return our 400 euros and for all who have been on the dole (unfortunately) are between 4 to be working! : ((

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# 44, natxo

October 22, 2008, at 9:58.

For those who will renegotiate his first differential ... .. requests a simulation to some other bank with low differential (eg ING) and leave that to negotiate with the bank. Tell them that you must attach a new, cheaper and blah blah blah.

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# 45, ICG

October 22, 2008, at 9:59.

Other things ...

The world of senior leaders seems a trendy disco ...

Zapatero is directed at the door of the disc and the segurata (Sarkozy) tells you ... you do not pass! Not wearing slippers. Here no one enters without shoes.
And Zapatero ... "What am cobbler! I am of the Xampions lyk! Let me pass! "
And Sarkozy: No! That does not come in here! Only entering the coolest.
And Zapatero went by where wine ...

Or not ...! jajajaaa!

We believe the best ...! But for the rest of the world we are "North Africa". Spain ... what is Spain !!!??

And then this happens when we are where we are going to suffer the WORST CRISIS.

And that is going to fall ...

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# 46, Solbes ruin zp

October 22, 2008, at 9:59.

# 41, Breogan
thanks.
in May hare 3 years, it is possible q I also changed.
I Cajamar eu +0.25, but lies and the arrogance of the director's what makes me q switch entity, does not lie with me stand q q legally can not and when you put a colored explaining how it does, you are answering q q standards of the box can not.

it does not lie and say it before, rustlers.

I guess cajamadrid tb are cuatrerillos q, q but do not try to cheat their own customers with lies enormous.

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# 47, faliqui

October 22, 2008, at 10:00.

My Euribor for the club today:

5.087%

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# 48, German

October 22, 2008, at 10:00.

Bajadita to 5.07 and at the end of the week at 4.99

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# 49, ICG

October 22, 2008, at 10:01.

# 43, Silver

And very sad ... I say what I have seen while breakfast.

You want to remove ALL ... (well, less than that ... I was never removed)

Greetings!

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# 50, Silver

October 22, 2008, at 10:03.

# 49, ICG

Jajajajaja : D

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