Reviews of the week

I return to that good habit of highlighting the comment of the week, so given the volume of comments received (over 2,000) would be unfair to choose only one, so I leave with you who you have liked more.

Thank you all for being there in which perhaps has been more lively week in the financial markets of our lives.

# 22, Delshannon

October 10, 2008, at 9:16.

I hasten to write what I see in a branch of Spain Fund, to which I have gone on topics of my business.

A young girl, very well dressed, I was crying, yes, yes, crying at a table next to me saying something like "I need you to lower the mortgage, we can not lose," I'm still white.

I have heard that in 2005 we tasaron the 90 million ".... (....), I'm an official .... I suppose it will be decided as soon (I hope at 8.30 to open) because I knew what was going on.

This had to have it here, I obviously know the situation of this woman and basically little I care because each has his own lot, but I assure you that the way back, I've been thinking that this is amazing live, is a strong, very strong, hopefully no one passing through situations well, neither it, nor mine seeing is chungo.

Good morning.

# 9 J.

October 9, 2008, at 9:24.

This morning, against all odds, has become a sunrise.

# 57, Upupa

Oct 9 2008, at 10:30.

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Other things ... what you thought my proposal that we do CLopez a weekly question with selective answers?

Example: What do you have mortgage debt?

a) Between 50 and 100 thousand euros
b) Between 100 and 150 thousand euros
... ... ..

One per week. And so would the range of this forum. Looks like we are, what we are, how we are, how we go ... .. and we would see what the real situation of Spain.

Do you think?

Please vote positive for Carlos Lopez is set to do so as soon as possible.

Thanks !!!!!

# 28, hipotecaohastalamedula

October 8, 2008, at 10:04.

"Spain is different '

I'm tired of hearing "slowdown" in time of crisis.
Tired of hearing "strengthen" rather than ransom.
Tired of seeing the barrel of Brent gets to 88 cts after a 145 and no lower than gasoline.
Tired of hearing talk about a plan that costs be applied in a fishing village and not in villas and hotels.
Tired of hearing inflation of 4% when the commodities go up more than 20%.
Tired of hearing to guarantee my funds when I know that break the bank as I'm going to spend the hookers to recover my money while I'm going to have to continue paying my mortgage.
Tired of hearing measures to encourage the hiring and then not regulate the rent increases of more than 20% and 30%.
Tired of giving a propaganda plan that after independence does not charge nor Tato.
Tired of promoting women's equality and then see that the number of male victims and is on 50 and nothing was done to toughen penalties.
Tired of seeing a judge to get him a fine of € 1500 (which won in 2 days Curro) and his secretary's long 2 years without charging anything.
Tired of seeing the government to reduce mortality in more and more highways installs radar and only 20% are in a black spots.
Tired of seeing that approves a law on smoking that 100% of the restaurants did not meet anybody and do anything.

Tired of writing because they could just keep making things with my patience.

I'm tired and it is only Wednesday, Friday, I do not know how to get ...

# 23, FERNANDO

Oct. 7, 2008, at 10:03.

ALREADY DECIDED WHAT MY TEACHER.

FOR A MATHEMATICAL 2 +2 SON 4
FOR A PHYSICAL 2 +2 ARE ABOUT 4
AND FOR AN ACCOUNTING what you want.

# 2, Mano H20

October 6, 2008, at 9:21.

Hello everybody.

Is this a key week for the world economy? Is it for Spanish?

Starting today will be used for something if the U.S. macro plan. From time Asian stock markets tumble. Bad sign.

That countries like Ireland, Greece and Germany are launched to ensure the funds in banks is not good sign. To meet the major European leaders (except that it was acatarrado ZP), is not a good sign.

That the situation is expected to be the most delicate of Spain, is not a good sign.
That invite the zp opposition leader to a meeting and since then the only thing to do is insult, it is not good sign.

That Solbes, that nothing is immutable, you worry about the rapid rise in delinquencies, it is not good sign.

That the economic weapon secret government is giving tax incentives to surface that the banknotes of 500 € monopolized by the real estate sector, it is not good sign.

And boxes that banks fear a flood of recommendations in payment of debt, is not a good sign.

That the bank Sabadell is in ninth place in a hypothetical world ranking of risk, it is not good sign. That Bancaja, Popular and CAM are in the eye of the hurricane is not a good sign.

The Ibex open with heavy losses and suspend trading of Santander, BBVA and Endesa, is not a good sign.

That the greatest concern in the Spanish entities at this time is to classify the borderline between customers and defaulting is not good sign.

View: http://www.cotizalia.com/cache/2008/10/06/noticias_57_entidades_financieras_espanolas_preparan_avalancha.html

In this article included the story of Romanones of Count:

In the financial sector circulating a joke that explains the dudosidad. They say that the Count of Romanones came one night at the Casino de Madrid accompanied by two women happy life. At the door, he was warned not allowed entry to the ladies "objectionable". To which the Count replied: "These are whores, no doubt. The all others are dubious. " In the case of customers of financial institutions, the same thing happens. It is known who is the defaulter, all others are doubtful. Is inconclusive or delinquent, the case is that defaults are growing so worrying.

Salu2

PS: If I'm going to the suggestion Up Up

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# 1, Anonymous

October 11, 2008, at 12:37.

Seems to lie that has left up up a good idea. It will be interesting ...

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# 2, LEON

October 11, 2008, at 12:42.

Well I am glad Carlos Lopez, because in some ways I did that I loaded this section of the commentary of the week.

And if I may say, in addition to the comments of the week you post, I assume that by the number of votes, but I think the comment "shocking" of the week was the one who wrote Mano H20 but not the post but you have to Day 8 began on Wednesday, because it has cloth as we anticipated lower rates, I believe that when any media is far from what smelled.

In any case I am glad to return to this section. I am acquitted of my peccadillo. Thank you.

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# 3, Raul_VLC

October 11, 2008, at 12:53.

FOR # 57, Upupa
AND CARLOS LOPEZ

I find it very interesting that request, it could make a REAL study, is not a matter of mock each other, seeing as this is really the issue. It would be very interesting to know:
1) the loan amount requested
2) what we have to borrow
3) the years of borrowing requirements
4) the years that we are
5) the current rate differential Euribor +
6) this point would be interesting, real prices (which cost us the floor really, not counting the cost)
As we could do to be able to draw an average real ....

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# 4, krollian

October 11, 2008, at 14:02.

# 3, Raul_VLC:

Well I suppose that with a Google document public would have a good guide available ...

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# 5, Aries

October 11, 2008, at 14:21.

Hello,

Menuda semanita, Yeng light burned, not despgo the eyes of the forum or any website on which someone has something to say or to contribute,
My boyfriend tells me that he does not understand why this week is so important, he said "I do not understand the economy but it is clear that everything has to climb down." THAT REALLY GREAT!
I try to explain that the problem is how is falling, the consequences, what I see every day qu at work ....

but the more I read, the more I talk, the more I listen ... ... unless I know, the less I understand how we are going to get out of this, and I am not afraid of what might happen, I am afraid of how people act, which makes the panic worsen the situation ... ...
someone, I do not remember who, he said the other day so successful forecasts of Child Becerra, it is true so far, but I hope it continues to have no reason, I hope to see an improvement in the Euribor, in elparo in inflation ... .... but because ... ... ...

C. Lopez beam event at this time Upupa, and lanzanos questions could be a big observatory Economy
Good Weekend!

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# 6, Aries

October 11, 2008, at 14:23.

Ah!

It is curious to see in a survey as 78% do not see either the injection of liquidity to banks:

http://www.elmundo.es/debate/2008/10/1446/prevotaciones1446.html

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# 7, Templar

October 11, 2008, at 14:35.

the wealth of a country is at work, not in some upswing in the Euribor, everything is a lie, we have to draw money from banks and boxes (which have), and not go to these Jews to cry for our right not to be slaves of your capitalism, I recommend seeing the movie "The Merchant of Venice" which after all is what is happening.

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# 8, newcomer

October 11, 2008, at 14:49.

Totally agree with the theme of the actual statistics, but by ballots (each click on the lame default or fill out a form with the data, to protect confidentiality). That if you please, to enculeitor, Upupa and others (like this one I just read Templar) pedidria you please not falseeis statistics, please.

And I agree with the rescue of MañoH20 comment about the drop in rates. I still shudder from the vision that was ...

A greeting and two rest days, on Monday curves come again ...

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# 9, eltonto

October 11, 2008, at 14:59.

The comment Mano gives us the key anecdote in the final.

The whole crisis is based on doubts and nobody tells us what are the hookers.

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# 10, eltonto

October 11, 2008, at 15:06.

The origin of the crisis is the phenomenal deficit of U.S..
How can continue to operate with 800 000 per year?

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# 11, eltonto

October 11, 2008, at 15:10.

Well it would be that we Solbes breakdown (in millions of euros and percentages) worrying levels of defaults. How much is:
1) Business
2) Banks
3) City Councils
4) Personal Credit
5) Mortgages

I bet that the failure of mortgages is less than 1%

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# 12, funcionator

October 11, 2008, at 15:25.

Well, I am happy for Up Up, which has managed to secure what in the depths of his being wanted: exit at the "tele".

From here you my most sincere congratulations to Up Up.

To see if this is balanced a bit more mentally.

Or would like Rajoy, to see if they stop giving the coñazo ;-)

Salu2

PD

I also find it very well for a return to the custom of publishing the comments rated. Perhaps even more voted for the 3 or so, since they actually are always things that are worth remembering them, which are small and have a history of that.

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# 13, Angel

October 11, 2008, at 15:34.

My mortgage is of 1268 euros, pending the rise in December with my calculations that I will rise to 1460 euros, was one of many banks that I gave 125% of the value of the floor. I do not know if all this is my fault or banks, but speculation of being able to sell the most expensive floor I get a frog, I now have to fight to keep my wife and daughter to succeed, well, I hope that all this is quick fix, but I feel like my daughter eating baby food. Thank you all, we could put all our situation, to see how the world is going global, thanks to all. Ciao

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# 14, let your body joy Macarena

October 11, 2008, at 15:41.

angel, because the price of baby food qe are cheaper as you eat a fillet of veal.

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# 15, Raul_VLC

October 11, 2008, at 15:53.

I've made the request as well as Upupa
Proposal for structuring as Pori

example:
1) Price of property: € 202,000 (without charge)
2) Amount requested: € 152,000
3) Years of loan: 30 years
4) the initial monthly fee: 770 €
5) current monthly fee: 820 €

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# 16, Guille

October 11, 2008, at 15:59.

http://www.elpais.com/articulo/espana/Mariano/Rajoy/Manana/tengo/conazo/desfile/elpepuesp/20081011elpepunac_4/Tes # EnlaceComentarios
http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2008/10/11/espana/1223724070.html?a=3a31d6781a236dee2ac2053db616a0be&t=1223733538
http://www.cadenaser.com/actualidad/audios/rajoy-in-fraganti-manana-tengo/csrcsrpor/20081011csrcsr_8/Aes/

LORDS NOT deceive you!! Look what happened today
Hence this great patriot, the great Spanish, the great defender of the national flag Rajoy ... ... a champion of the Day, who a year ago, he said, I am Spanish and it concludes tomorrow ... just Rajoy Rajoy

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# 17, TT

October 11, 2008, at 16:09.

And I say that I am very poorly thought out ... Could it be that Mr. Upupa works in any business sector and wants to disclose more information that interesting?

Passage of alleged polls that many vultures information may end up using for studies of free markets and beyond. I know that this is going. I do not know what pensaréis ... Greetings!

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# 18, another here

October 11, 2008, at 16:44.

Well, the truth is that everyone wanted to be very flat in our property, and what happened step, ie. My parents said and meant that when really wanted something of value and important enough for economy, first calculated with the fingers,
1 - which had
2 - what you pay for entry into house
3 - which could save to pay
4 - and then very confident and secure - they buy
- For each of us has passed, that
1 - we had nothing of substance saved
2 - I wanted more than he could pay for our
3 - and on top of the mortgage gave us 125% of the value of the floor
4 - clearly had to pay taxes, records, and change-of-way car
5 - with these calculations, raising the quotas, which had not envisaged or 5% or higher.
And our salaries, if they are fixed and paid regularly, because they do not reach for the rise in quotas

Total us rolling, and cheated in the end, the aid is for banks and boxes that gave us more of what they called,
is not going well in our pockets, we failed and did not want to do our best calculations, and that was nice then we promised that we were the most wealthy of the world.

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# 19, King Quinito

October 11, 2008, at 16:51.

# 16

Apart from more or less patriotic, attend a parade, is a coñazo ... tb is a coñazo a session of the congress, a council of ministers, a press conference, read the comments of Upupa ...

Rajoy is interested in both patriotism, as ZP problems of Spaniards, namely zero

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# 20, Solvent

October 11, 2008, at 17:10.

For my comments of the week were those of MR C. LOPEZ in the area of comments.

The first one I've searched but have disappeared and the day of Tupperware commented something like that the savings are more secure in the classic fiambrera.Curioso although I do not think of himself as an intelligent person.

The second if I found:
# 10, Carlos Lopez

October 10, 2008, at 9:08.

# 7, saspiki
Yesterday I sold myself enough. Like a decision has not been good, but I had such a state of anxiety that I have taken losses of time and I keep out of the bag.
That won it Health.

- Of course the comment of the week after the first course, my question is.

C. LOPEZ if not indiscretion, got you. As the money in the Tupper or give us a clue where it has invested, sure that there are many Forero are awaiting their response.

Thank you very much.

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# 21, Guille

October 11, 2008, at 17:16.

# 19, King Quinito

I'm with you, but I go further, YOU ARE INTERESTED TO ANY NADA UNA MIERDA
A NO!
In his time with the theme of the Catalans and Basques .... Rajoy said that Spain ... ... .., that was the Spanish ... ... ... ... ..
That is already forgotten for the moment!

Now, as touches Economia, as Rajoy said that goes with Families ... and I wonder, with that family? will be with theirs, pq has never gone with that of the other

Life is the mimerda living and politicians we have. But do not expect to settle it os, PP and PSOE or settle it, it will settle, and the effort and support of currante

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# 22, Thalmann

October 11, 2008, at 17:28.

I do not spend analysis, I am not a analisto, but I want to say something about them. People continuously messes with them, but do not you realize that the "armed wing" of their pay, and would say what his company wants them to say ... ... do their job, no more. If they knew or they say, do not work for anyone, would be independent, would not be taking a welded ...
ej1: analyst capitalization; meeting at the company and decided that we have to buy an electric, and so do our customers. They buy on Monday, and on Thursday we see that the thing gets malita .... I will at the same time as a radio analyst "to give advice" about values ...
if you ask me for the electricity and now I see it wrong (on Monday was what we recommend to our clients) tell the truth to fall further still, I mean there are gentlemen who leave the value! and leave it to my clients in the air ... ..? llegr yourselves to the conclusion.
ej2: working for a newspaper and I do analysis. you have seen many times that do not coincide with the editorial line of the newspaper ..?
The rule is simple in this world of finance: NO TE FIES OR YOUR FATHER!!

I do not care, bag, that mortgages, which loans, which funds .... etc ...

lucky

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# 23, HipoTKdo

October 11, 2008, at 17:48.

I personally believe that with the amount of trolls who swarm by the forum, little clean is going to be able to draw from the survey ...

And the question of the million:
They expect to get?

I am no actuary, but I have my doubts q us a good sample to make a serious analysis of the situation of the market.

Enjoy!

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# 24, Hipotecadoycasi sintrabajo

October 11, 2008, at 18:33.

My principles are left-wing politicians and voted to the PSOE in part by the lesson of economy of Mr. Solbes in TVE.
At times I have had my doubts and I recognize that every time he says something I get the shakes over the consequences that could lead to nuuestra economy.
But we must be clear qe is neither the problem nor Zapatero and Rajoy Aznar, the problem is that in trying to globalization there are people who have enriched so blatant and disgraceful, and if there are 10 things wrong with having an 8 en 5, the other went from 5 to 2. More rich, like most poor, and when poor children are unable to pay the rich are not paid.
My grandfather said that the business of the future because everybody is selling the mortgage strings, a mortgage, a rope when you can not pay ... Is that was misleading?

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# 25, Ovie2-s

October 11, 2008, at 19:16.

Article received and pasted:

10 questions on the crisis
Michel Collon

1. ¿Subprime? The starting point is a real scam and that Western banks have gained an enormous amount of money at the expense of U.S. households, saying that if we were not able to pay, they removed their houses for four coins.

2. Is it just a banking crisis? Not at all. This is a real economic crisis that has begun in the banking sector, but whose causes are much deeper. In fact, the entire economy of the United States living on credit for 30 years. The companies borrow beyond its means, the state is also borrowing beyond its means (to war) and has been systematically driven people to borrow, the only way to maintain artificially economic growth.

3. Will the real cause? Of course, traditional media will not tell us anything. Yet, the subprime are just the tip of the iceberg, the most striking manifestation of a crisis of overproduction that hits the United States, but also to Western countries. If the ultimate goal of a multinational company is to lay off workers en masse to do the same work with fewer people, should also be lowered wages by all means and with the help of governments accomplices, Who will sell the capitalists their goods? They have not stopped impoverish their customers!

4 Is it just a crisis to overcome that? History proves that capitalism has always gone from one crisis to another, from time to time, a good war to get out of it (eliminating their rivals, business, infrastructure, which allows a good reinvigorate economic). In fact, the crisis is also a period that the great advantage to eliminate or absorb the weak. This is what happens now in the U.S. banking sector, or in the case of BNP that swallows at Fortis (and all this has only just started). But if the crisis reinforces the concentration of capital in the hands of an even smaller number of multinationals, what will be the consequence? These super-groups will have even more ways to eliminate or impoverishing the workforce and thus become an even stronger competition. We are again at the box output.

5. A capitalism on ethical grounds? One hundred and fifty years ago that what we promise. Until Bush and Sarkozy have done. But in reality, it is as impossible as a vegetarian tiger. And it is that capitalism is based on three principles: 1. Private ownership of major means of production and finance. It is not the people to decide, but the multinationals. 2. Competitiveness: win the economic war, that is, cut-throat competition. 3. The maximum benefit: to win this battle is not enough to have a normal or reasonable profit, but a profit rate that allows distance to the competitors. Capitalism is nothing but the law of the jungle, as Karl Marx wrote: "When capital is appalled by the lack of profit. When you feel a reasonable profit, is proud. 20% were excited. 50% is reckless. 100% devastates all human laws and 300%, is not stopped by any crime. "

6. ¿Save to banks? Of course, we have to protect bank customers. But in reality, what the State is doing is protecting the rich and nationalize the losses. For example, the Belgian state did not have 100 million euros to help people to maintain their purchasing power, but to save the banks, has found 5,000 million in two hours. Billions that we will have to repay. The irony is that Dexia was a Public Bank and Fortis has swallowed a public bank that worked very well. As a result, its leaders have done business for twenty years. And now that the thing does not work, have you asked these leaders to pay up the pieces with the money they have been winning and that have been saved? No, we are asked to pay us.

7. Are the media? Far from explaining all this, fix their attention on side issues. They tell us they will have to find the errors, those responsible, to fight the excesses and blah, blah, blah. However, this is not such or such an error, but the system. This crisis was inevitable. Companies that are crumbling, are the weakest or those who have had worse luck. Those that survive, will have even more power over the economy and on our lives.

8. Is neoliberalism? The crisis has been caused not only accelerated by the neoliberal fashion of the last twenty years. Rich countries have tried to impose this neoliberalism throughout the third world. In Latin America, as I explored during the preparation of my book The 7 sins of Hugo Chávez, neoliberalism has plunged millions of people in poverty. But the man who launched the sign of the resistance, the man who has proved that it could withstand the World Bank, the IMF and the multinationals, the man who has taught him that he had his back to neo-liberalism for poverty reduction, this man, Hugo Chávez, it is a coup demonizing media lie and baseless slander. Why?

9. Will the third world? Only tells us about the consequences of the crisis in the North. In fact, throughout the third world will suffer badly because of the economic recession and falling prices of raw materials that cause the crisis.

10. Is the alternative? In 1989, a famous American author, Francis Fukuyama, we announced the End of History: capitalism had triumphed forever, he told us. There was no need for a long time that the winners were stars. Humankind needs genuinely another type of society. The current system produces billions of poor people, plunged into the anguish of those who are (temporarily) a lot of work, full of wars and ruining the planet's resources. To claim that humanity is doomed to live under the law of the jungle, is to take people for fools. What should be a more humane society, which offers a decent future for all? This is the debate we all have the obligation to launch. Without taboos.

michel.collon @ skynet.be

Cover and hail falling from the sky is not

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# 26, Anuska

October 11, 2008, at 21:58.

Another # 18 here.

With your comment, frankly, you've given the key to what happened. In my case it was something different. When I started with my boyfriend (now husband) already had the mortgage interest and although he was moderately low, here in Galicia salaries are a pittance and it was a pretty big mortgage. I do not think it occurred to me if I could afford it at an interest rate of 5% ... I thought I was: I think a Animalada pay that! How soon can I afford it?. The sacrifice of those who spoke the people now making them take 5 years (and so that people like your comment to us called idiots on more than one occasion by depriving us of things) and we have fallen quite despite the fact that climbed a donkey. The negative of history is that those people, now says that we were lucky that we had a very easy and that the blame is the Euribor, the shoemaker, government, the crisis ....

A greeting.

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# 27, another of here

October 11, 2008, at 22:48.

# 26 Anuska

I do not think that is too espabilado for this topic, but I had a Director of Bank (woman had to be - should learn from the VISION OF WOMEN, WITH THAT EXPERIENCE AND KNOWLEDGE-) made me see the possibility, albeit remote (which is now it was not so remote), so named for the Euribor, could not be provided at those points so low, and he had to think of that could double or more, and rightly.
His advice to me and others who took their advice, we have to deal with these months with a little more quiet too.
All forms of punishment, that people like this great director, and by nefarious policy of the Banks (despite his 51 years) to be a step early retirement - all wasting their enormous potential of ideas, knowledge and experience, but more can the Quick return on profit, and rinse the graft of Presidentesde the big banks.
Anuska greetings and all, to pass it as best we can

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# 28, Positive

October 11, 2008, at 23:54.

my wife woke me the other day, I was scared, said that while I was asleep smiled as the happiest person in the world, after saying it corrected the computer, I got into the bank over the Internet but the mortgage was still there ...

Against all odds J has been one of the most rated reviews, can not be summed up best forecasts in economics.

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# 29, eltonto

October 12, 2008, at 0:11.

I repeat for the umpteenth time:
Defaults on mortgages will occur as a result of the crisis, are not the cause.
Los impagos son producto de las empresas que están en supensión de pagos (deporte nacional español) porque los bancos cortaron el grifo de golpe.
Si alguien demuestra lo contrario con datos, agradecido.

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# 30 , FreyDreya

12 de Octubre de 2008, a las 0:22.

Yo miro el Euribor en otra página, esta página dice que hace un estudio sobre la posible tendencia y valores que podría tener el Euribor.
Ciertamente no es muy optimista pero desde que la sigo no ha fallado en sus predicciones, no lo han clavado en el valor pero si en la tendencia.

http://www.hipotecasyeuribor.com/previsioneuribor.php

Y según esta información también coinciden con la anteriores predicciones del Euribor, la única pega de esta información es que es antigua(04-08-2008) pero os podéis hacer una idea.

http://libertaddigital.com/economia/no-publicarvivienda-augura-que-el-euribor-subira-hasta-el-8-por-ciento-en-2012-1276335900/

Siento no daros esperanzas buenas a los hipotecados, pero creo que es mejor saber más datos para así estar preparado.

Un saludo cordial.

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# 31 , J.

12 de Octubre de 2008, a las 1:31.

# 9 , J.
9 de Octubre de 2008, a las 9:24.

Esta mañana, contra todo pronóstico, ha vuelto a amanecer.

¿por qué escribí esa frase?
No para describir la situación económica, ni un eventual repunte de la bolsa. Ni que la economía vaya a repuntar mañana

Sólo porque todos - y yo me incluyo - hemos estado tan negativos, tan pesimistas, que parecía que no iba a volver a salir el sol. Físicamente. A iluminarnos.

Pues sale cada mañana. Contra todo pronóstico. Y lo va a seguir haciendo. Y algún día hablaremos de todo esto y ya no parecerá tan grave.

Siempre es así. Un saludo y buenas noches.

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# 32 , Carsola

12 de Octubre de 2008, a las 1:53.

¡Qué bonita es mi España! que somos todos unos desconfiados y por ser tan desconfiados, los Cipotecados están como están, con su admirado y temido Euribeitor, ya lo dice el lumbreras del BE, Fernández Ordóñez dice que no prevé bajadas del Euribor hasta que se restaure la confianza.
Así que mis queridos MegaCipotecados ya podéis empezar a cambiar el chip y empezar a confiar, en el vecino, en el Banquero, en el Gobierno, en las Instituciones, porque de lo contrario ese Aliens llamado Euribeitor va a destrozar hasta al más pintado. ¡qué cosas tiene uno que ver y leer en este mundo revuelto!…….
También tenemos un comisario llamado Almunia que dice que la restricción del crédito ya está teniendo un importante impacto sobre la economía real, quien también mantiene que el debilitamiento del sistema financiero está extendiendo sus efectos, como lo muestran los indicadores de actividad y caída de la confianza en Europa.
Como decía el lingüista Venezolano Néstor R. Alejandro, La confianza da asco y es tanto el asco que me produce ver a las cabezas mono neuronales gobernantes perdidas y engañadas por el complot existente al estilo Masónico, que es imposible de confiar en el sistema económico actual y de cualquier personaje que se mueva dentro de el, aún queriendo, como ha apuntado Thälmann en este mundo de las finanzas: NO TE FIES NI DE TU PADRE !!!!..
Aquí no se salva ni el apuntador, no nos salva la Macarena ni queriendo

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# 33 , FreyDreya

12 de Octubre de 2008, a las 1:57.

No entiendo porque me votáis negativo, solo quiero os he dado información que he encontrado.
Si no os gusta pues ignorarla, pero yo procuro leer todo lo que pillo y como se que por naturaleza humana, lo que no gusta no se busca.
Pues pretendía daros otra visión,no ser un especulador pesimista con algún interés de por medio que no sea el de que opinéis sobre los enlaces que he citado, pero bueno…

A mi también me afecta el Euribor.

Un saludo cordial

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# 34 , dale a tu cuerpo alegría macarena

12 de Octubre de 2008, a las 8:54.

# 30 , FreyDreya

ese calculo de tendencia (ellos mismos lo reconocen) no tiene ningun valor. Que el euribor lleva un año subiendo…pues a ese ritmo en los proximos meses subirá tanto…y lo ponen. Eso es lo unico que hacen, sin calculos, sin base fiable…

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# 35 , kokito

12 de Octubre de 2008, a las 9:24.

Good morning, vietnam

Preparémosnos para otro lunes de infarto.

“Tal es el movimiento que incluso ‘Sunday Times’ especula con que se puedan suspender las actividades de la bolsa de valores de Londres, debido al gran impacto que podía tener la medida.”

http://www.eleconomista.es/empresas-finanzas/noticias/798882/10/08/Reino-Unido-inyectara-44000-millones-en-sus-cuatro-mayores-bancos.html

Hasta luego

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# 36 , Paniagua

12 de Octubre de 2008, a las 10:32.

Que los bancos son usureros lo tenemos todos claro, pero para poder ejercer necesitan una política económica acorde con sus pretensiones ¿A nadie le parece sospechoso el aumento del 10% en las tarifas de gas natural?
http://www.foxinver.com/2008/08/02/union-fenosa-gas-natural-criteria-la-caixa-psc-psoe/
¿es esto masonería?
http://www.peatom.info/bocina/111067/cajas-de-ahorro-catalanas-y-narcis-serra-i-serra/
¿Cuántos cargos ocupa este hombre? presidente Caixa Catalunya, consejo administración Gas Natural, presidente del MNAC y seguro que un largo etc… Eso confianza en el sistema creo que da igual tirar por la derecha que por la izquierda todos los caminos acaban en la modelo con-fianza.

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# 37 , mr

12 de Octubre de 2008, a las 12:07.

alguien me puede decir con que media cerro septiembre ??

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# 38 , algecireño

12 de Octubre de 2008, a las 12:21.

# 37 , mr

5.4%

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# 39 , XYZ

12 de Octubre de 2008, a las 12:48.

Plan de rescate en Reino Unido. Los cuatro principales bancos tienen que ser rescatados. 44.000 millones de euros.

¿Y si pruebo a gritar fuerte? Yo solo necesito 200.000 € de nada.
¿Me rescatarán?

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# 40 , Uno Más

12 de Octubre de 2008, a las 13:18.

Son unos impresentables, se debería pedir su ingreso inmediato en la cárcel por estafa y sin embargo:

http://www.elpais.com/articulo/semana/Culpables/millonarios/impunes/elpepueconeg/20081012elpneglse_5/Tes

Un saludo

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# 41 , LEON

12 de Octubre de 2008, a las 13:24.

# 40 , Uno Más

Fíjate. Yo tengo una curiosidad. Me encantaría saber cuanto gana Trichet. Y sobre todo si le suben el sueldo en función del IPC o del Euribor.

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# 42 , templario

12 de Octubre de 2008, a las 13:33.

campaña cotra la usura , quemar entidades bancarias cada vez que suba el euribor, total a estos judios no les importa si tnemos para comer o carencias a nuestros hijos, tampoco nos tienen que importar ellos, a quemarlos en vez de ir a sus entidades a pedirles clemencia,el dinero es un bien publico y del pueblo, el fuego lo purifica todo “V”

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# 43 , Anónimo

12 de Octubre de 2008, a las 13:45.

Please que alguien avise a Espe (presidenta de la comunidad autonoma de Madrid)

Cuando todo el mundo occidental nacionaliza empresas y bancos ella continua con sus planes privatizando la sanidad y el canal de Isabel II.

Sus familiares estaran cerca del cotarro para recoger parte del botin, cuando dentro de unos años se colapse el sistema, se nacionalizan de nuevo y todos asumimos las perdidas, ya se echara la culpa a Sara y Mago esos dos grandes premios novel.

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# 44 , Paniagua

12 de Octubre de 2008, a las 14:14.

# 40 , Uno Más

No quiero ser pelmaza pero para quien no lo sepa -Luis de Guindos presidente de Lehman Brother españa y portugal fue entre 1996 y 2000 director general de Política Económica y Defensa de la Competencia, después secretario general de la misma (2000-2002) y, finalmente, secretario de Estado de Economía. En 2004, fue el responsable del programa económico con el que Mariano Rajoy se presentó a las elecciones generales. Bancos y políticos siempre de la mano, ¿alguién espera que acaben en la cárcel? nos quedaríamos sin clase pudiente y maloliente

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# 45 , Pepe D.

12 de Octubre de 2008, a las 14:19.

Hola a todos:

EStamos asistiendo nada mas y nada menos que a la bancarrota del sistema económico mundial.

Esto nos va a llevar a un nuevo régimen, tanto desde un punto de vista económico como de organización de las naciones.

Vaticino una caida del Dolar antes de final de año. Pues los fondos en dolares puestos en bonos del tesoro norteamericanos conmprados por china (1 Billón de dolares)son los que están manteniendo el valor del dolar. En el momento que la rentabilidad de estos bonos sea nula ya pesar del mantenimento de esta masa monetaria por parte de China, siga degradandose el dolar ante la aplicación de la ingente cantidad de deuda que va a asumir el estado norteamericano, los paises productores de petróleo van a exigir el pago de su petróleo en Euros oa la canasta, que es usar la moneda que al pais productor le interese en cada momento, puede provocar la caida vertiginosa del dolar y entonces el crack se oirá en marte.

Todo radica en el aburguesamiento de la sociedad occidental y en la apertura de los mercados mundiales a los productos de terceros paises fabricados en condiciones de esclavitud, haciendo imposible la competitividad de los productos occidentales, provocando que las grandes masas de dinero fluyan hacia china e india. Ante una situación así dcidieron las grandes multinacionales que para evitar la caida del consumidor del mundo EEUU así como europa , había que mantener el sistema abaratando el dinero y por tanto sustituir el ahorro por deuda, y así las grandes corporaciones se aseguraban un mercado de consumo para sus productos fabricados en paises donde la gente trabajo por poco mas que la comida.

Esto ha llevado a un extremo que la deuda de occidente es tan brutal que nos tienen que prestar los paises asiaticos la pasta para seguir consumiendo. Al final esto es la quiebra , que es a donde nos dirigimos, y por tanto los restos quien los va a recoger seran los paises emergentes a los que ahora quieren incluir en el G7, para que pongan la pasta, pero estos que lo que quieren es mandar en el mundo pondrán sus condiciones.

A donde nos puede llevar esto pues a situaciones de desempleo masivo en todo occidente, tensiones políticos entre paises por los dineros que unos y otros tienen en los respectivos paises, ya cosas peores, si Dios no lo remedia.

¿Quien tiene la culpa de esto? Los políticos vendidos a las grandes corporaciones multinacionales, la apertura de los mercados mundiales que solo a beneficiado a las grandes multinacionales etc…

Consejos: ahorrar lo que podais, comprar solo lo que necesiteis

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# 46 , condonacion_jeje

12 de Octubre de 2008, a las 16:09.

la crisis aki en España ha llegado en el peor momento….en la epoca que un inutil salio elegido presidente de rebote…asi quedara para la historia…cuanto antes se vaya mejor para todos… problema.. cuando un tio pierde una vez las elecciones en ningun sitio repite… aki va para repetir 2 veces!!!! .. con esta clase politica asi nos va….

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# 47 , kokito

12 de Octubre de 2008, a las 16:31.

Good night, vietnam

Si alguien puede corroborar lo que pongo abajo, por favor que lo diga.
Lo han dicho hoy en TV 3/24 noticias.

” las seis primeras entidades de Islandia han quebrado, 300.000 clientes británicos afectados, no pueden sacar sus ahorros”

Hasta luego

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# 48 , kokito

12 de Octubre de 2008, a las 16:44.

Good night, vietnam

Aa lo mejor ya habiais hablado del tema y no me he dado cuenta, si no aquí teneies esto.

“La nacionalización de bancos en Islandia deja a 300.000 británicos sin poder acceder a sus ahorros
Administraciones locales y entes públicos de Reino Unido tienen 910 millones en entidades islandesas ”

http://www.elpais.com/articulo/economia/nacionalizacion/bancos/Islandia/deja/300000/britanicos/poder/acceder/ahorros/elpepueco/20081010elpepueco_5/Tes

Hasta luego

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# 49 , arquigus03

12 de Octubre de 2008, a las 18:01.

Yo me pregunto, ¿por qué el estado sale a rescatar a los bancos y sin embargo no lo hace al contribuyente?, es decir, si Banc Sabadell quiebra seguro que le dan “una ayudita”. Si yo no puedo pagar la hipoteca el año que viene (me quedo sin trabajo, sin mis ahorros,…) ¿me ayudará a igualdad de condiciones?

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# 50 , condonacion_jeje

12 de Octubre de 2008, a las 18:34.

# 49 , arquigus03
es el nuevo socialismo de este pais ayudar al rico sablear de impuestos al pobre…votantes del psoe os han estafadoooo lo malo es que pagamos todos iguallll!!! los 400 euros el año q viene los devolveremos todos y con crecesss!!!

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