Indicators advanced and backward ...

Methods to predict the crisis there are many, but none are functioning. We analyze complex ratios, are conducted thousands of surveys and they look up sales of lipstick or miniskirts to identify the arrival of bad times, but always catches us by surprise. Are the so-called indicators advanced. Before, even studying the number of times the word "crisis" in the newspapers, to see the likelihood that already existed in these cases are usually dealt with self-fulfilling prophecy. If people think that there is crisis, the economy stops. A clear example is the "banking panic" in which, as you depositors are made aware of the vulnerability of banks, their perception of the creditworthiness of these institutions is deteriorating, which precipitated withdrawals of deposits that weaken further the situation banks.

With the advent of the Internet, we have new tools to identify the concerns of citizens by their economic status, thus we can easily see what is written in the media, what they write and what citizens are concerned about the Internet, in Here I will use 3 examples, although not think lecturing and do not guarantee their reliability if I find a fun exercise and the less revealing.

To try to discover what is written in ways we can use the system of labels that many newspapers are online, their system is simple and involves applying a few keywords to each news item. In this case, I'm going to take a social news aggregator (meneame) in which users are those that send news, let's see the outcome of the screenshot of yesterday evening.

The size of the word indicates the number of times that label is on the various news, as you see "Crisis" win win by taking other words quite important as banks, banks, financial crisis, economy and the Euribor. Eye because we talk about pulling half a technological and "geek" who often give less importance to the economy.

Another method is to see how many times that word is written in blogs, which is a less "manipulated" or partisan than that of traditional media. To do this we use this tool Technorati. (A search engine for blogs)

Here the good thing is that we are not seeing a snapshot, not if we get a trend, in this case clearly upward.

And finally we will use the familiar "Google Trends" which shows the number of searches for a particular word. This is where we see the real concerns of citizens.

Here is the search results "Crisis"

In this case the chart is a double line above shows the volume of searches on the floor below and the number of news related (something relatively similar to what we used to meneame, but in this case showing trend).

Another example is very illustrative of the search "Guarantee Fund"

Here, being a word with a few searches fig leaves quite distorted, but certainly enough to think that gives the rise in recent days and more taking into account that in light of these searches end up taking many decisions.

As you can see there is a general concern about the economic situation is certainly higher than in the past and it may be due to greater access to information that we have. This is still a double-edged sword because it's easier to go with panic or rumors like "this force is going to break." Traditionally economic information received either from television, newspapers or radio tagging all political or our bank, so we had some facility to ascertain the reliability of the message and the dye wearing, but now that most sources are anonymous we may lose our criteria in selecting the wheat from the chaff.

So after all of this reflection to 100, I leave with you the daily digest of press, that this at least we know that lame foot.

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# 1, Yorchus

October 2, 2008, at 9:26.

That people talk about something does not mean it's true. A lot of people talk about a god or another and this does not imply that there, either.

Workers and the poor will remain poor and workers, there is a crisis or not.

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# 2, Jose

October 2, 2008, at 9:27.

For me personally I like most Google Trends, although it is curious to know the traffic trying to pages like Google-owned YouTube or the search engine. In this case the information is not available, that these are ready for Google jejeje.

In connection with the whole crisis and rumors of possible bankruptcy of ING last Monday by the downturn that hit its trading, I leave with you a very good post: Danger by the bankruptcy of ING subprime crisis? Will not that be ...

S2 and good morning ;)

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# 3, Colonel Perote

Oct 2 2008, at 9:35.

Many people walk by saying that perhaps now TRANCHETES him to lower rates. Much has been discussed here on the desirability or otherwise of this measure and if it would help lower the Euribor, or even could do even more off.
While reading the article in today I had been thinking at the top (also a reflection of every hundred):
Would not it be better than today TRANCHETES not touch interest rates but said in his speech something like that "are waking conditions to be successful in reducing short-term rates, perhaps before the end of the year"? Do you not think that this could help lower the Euribor plus a possible drop in rates?.

I told you already, thinking of every hundred. If you have followed reading is not my fault ;-)

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# 4, Carlos

Oct 2 2008, at 9:35.

I agree very much with the information that you can see rubbish on the internet and the damage it can do.
I would like to know pros and cons of the following theme: "amortization". A measure that would have to make the government for the next income tax return, is climbing the quantia of money that we can desgrabar for housing (approx 9000 euros per person). For example, to 12000, people who may be interested and could amortize over mortgage off tax benefit of 12,000 euros, returning money to banks that are missing from them and reduce the debt (an important factor in this crisis). That would mean that the state would have to return more money to taxpayers, that the banks would earn less interest, but could recover more metals.
Think that this measure?
Greetings,

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# 5, danika

October 2, 2008, at 9:36.

I wanted to explain a fact that made me grace and that perhaps reflects the poor economic situation there, a friend of mine came to see me and talk about money, when it left the issue of the bag told me he had bought shares in Telefonica, 6000 in the euro bag and he lost a thousand. I would answer that as the yard was also not much. In that yes but who buys those shares 8 years ago.

I've always heard that the bag is a long term investment but only as an anecdote I would say that someone who had invested a dollar in September 1929 in the U.S. stock market would not have been recovered its capital until 1954, 25 years later.

All comparisons are odious but this is history.

A greeting

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# 6, curious

Oct 2 2008, at 9:45.

I love seeing the daily struggles of the forum, but beginning to bore you ...

Why do not we start to look for solutions together.

For example, yesterday I was writing Rereading my mortgage. Really abusive when you read in peace ...

I understand that a contract can be terminated abusive and / or amended.
The banks are very clever and very well advised, but as has been demonstrated, Cagan and also the way that ...

Then, because we do not make a complicated exercise and see how to get some advantage of the situation?

An example you get. A major sponsor investor in my area, with a capacity sufficient to pay all its debts, going to the bank / s and said without hesitation that they do not plan to continue paying. Acojonan and will give you a blank year and earn interest without the following three to a fixed rate of 4%. With two c * j * tions in the hand!

I do not say we stopped paying, but ... know our particular situation may force us to seek solutions.

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# 7, droblo

October 2, 2008, at 9:52.

Very good article, is very well use the tools of the network to meet the concerns of the people, that is true may be exaggerated or even wrong, it does not matter, because what should matter to the media and especially the Political will is what worries people. To see if you read ...

And as to what that always wins in the bag long term, is a myth. First, because it must be borne in mind that to win in the bag the bag must raise at least something more than inflation, and many decades of comparing rates without taking into account that, and of course, is not the same now that a dollar of 20 years ago.
Anyway you just have to see the price of General Motors, an insurance company that is in the portfolios of many pension funds in North America and is now worth 9 TIMES LESS! 10 years ago.

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# 8, Osecianez

October 2, 2008, at 9:56.

Hello everyone

Just a curiosity:

The labels from Reddit, it makes me curious (accessed today) you know where you can be the tendency of that page or those who write .... These are:
Words from a crisis: Cathedral, religion, pp, McCain, Franco, spain, church, god ... ..

It is just as curious ... .. you can do the same with the newspapers to know more of their color ... ..

Carlos, your comment today ... cheap ... but very interesting.

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# 9, condonacion_jeje

October 2, 2008, at 9:57.

another 100,000 more unemployed people .... q mother mia pace ... we carry. ZP and worry about the cold war .... VIAJECITOO LESS AND MORE kedarse HERE TO FIND SOLUTIONS !!!!!!!!!

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# 10, curious

October 2, 2008, at 10:04.

As may be that a person who has no bloody idea, intends to invest in stock market and making money on top ...
I have not ever invested in the stock exchange, and when I would do it, the first virtual take positions and movements to analyze the impact of the environment compared to the values of purchase order. And always in the short-short term to avoid greater losses to be exposed to the volatility of macroentornos.

A story of Rockefeller ...

One day, while Rockefeller is sitting in front of the shoe usual, it asks ... "Mr. Rockefeller, now that I have saved a few bucks, you could tell that shares could buy ..."
Rockefeller nothing and he reflected on the inside ... "If a poor ignorant until it is able to invest their small savings on the stock exchange, had better stop me. As it is seen that this game is for all my money and be at the expense of the fortune of ignorance "

Moraleja ... for raising chickens you have to understand them, but, it's likely that you see wrapped in ratoncillos ...

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# 11, fernanblog

Oct 2 2008, at 10:10.

Curious.

Technorati also reveals that most of the bloggers goes on vacation in July.

A greeting,

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# 12, bloval

October 2, 2008, at 10:17.

I saw unimaginable today as a drop of Type but watching the European stock market optimism and a weak euro ...

suspect appears

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# 13, petervega

October 2, 2008, at 10:18.

Good morning.
I've been a time reading the forum and there are days it seems that I learn something of economy and the next day or a couple of hours I think it is less, but I like to read almost all views.
I have a curiosity. If Currito we are tightening their belts in order to pass this crisis, it can not squeeze banks and lowering spread that we have hired?
It would not be much but at least it would give a blow to our morale and impact on banks would see a little better, not as some chupasangres.

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# 14, Away

October 2, 2008, at 10:19.

Hello everybody.

I offer a deposit of ten thousand their APR 8 in a savings of Murcia. (If I were sure that there is no trap it would move up to 20,000).

Does anyone think that there may be something wrong, that these guys do not give so easily and less for quantities "small"?

PD Before the Trolls me machaquen to negative, I just want to say that I mortgaged for three years and instead of asking for more to the bank for collection of Audi did a good mattress because by then there were rumors that the Euribor was very low and also because I am independent company for which work well tenerme prefers to give me high.

Health and special greetings to all small autonomous.

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# 15, manonegra

October 2, 2008, at 10:23.

Wena!

Well, I was' cantao 'that would approve the "rescue plan" in USA, who doubted it? They have no alternative but to flee pa 'forward ...

Some thoughts on the subject:

Although it seems a shame that taxpayers have to pay twice for the BIG SCAM, the first paying astronomical prices for some houses (of wood) that either are not worth half, and then with their taxes ...

On the other hand, as a European, I see "relatively good" that the USA is scratching his pocket and fixed something that had crashed, another thing is that the measure serves to something, as I say, I think it is run forward.

Something else is going to be prepared if this just happening here, across the Atlantic, when you see your neighbor's beard shaving ...

Especulators BURNING!

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# 16, Raul_VLC

October 2, 2008, at 10:24.

It is on the relief

I bought an apartment with my girlfriend, each have amortized the max. about € 9015 each to about 18,000 = € / year

Assuming that we retain our businesses as relevant to you as they returned finances next year? each

Thank you

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# 17, Pri

October 2, 2008, at 10:27.

# 4
The problem is that the government has no money to delvolver the citizens can not raise € 9,000 to 12,000, is just the surplus achieved due to construction. If there are people who have not yet gained the return of this year.

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# 18, RAM

October 2, 2008, at 10:32.

If TRANCHETES keeps more of the same types.
If TRANCHETES low rates show the fear turns into panic.
I think the best option is to hold back the rise, check the status of truth and then regulate the market downward.

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# 19, hipotecadodeporvida

October 2, 2008, at 10:36.

good at all ...

At that hour speech Jean Claude? ..

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# 20, Laba

October 2, 2008, at 10:37.

Hello everybody !!!!!

Is that how long you can last all this regards the panic of banks to lend money? think that 2009 will be worse or better thing to ppios of the year?

Yesterday we were talking among several friends and the truth that none of us agree we put so please, if anyone can give their opinion.

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# 21, Isolde

October 2, 2008, at 10:41.

I recently talking more with my husband in the world economy, banking, mortgages and the Euribor that the Red Bull New York and see that as ranging from bad Erm:). Maybe if everyone stops talking football over the economy that people are a little more awareness and that not everything is football, party and the press from the heart.

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# 22, SA TRINXA

October 2, 2008, at 10:43.

One of the best things that have forums, is the diversity of people who compose it, with different training, with different experiences, with different viewpoints, and this does nothing more than enrich the place where we are.

For this reason, I suggest why do not we share the best we have everyone here? hipotecdo looking to optimize our future.

For example, surely there must be at forum:

1 .- LAWYERS could report on any clause in the contracts of mortgages that are used to seeing in their daily work and they know well that it is an abuse and that could be eliminated.

2 .- DIRECTORS OF BANKING OFFICES could report if it costs something to mortgaged to the bank requesting that you move from Euribor +0.5 to Euribor +0.25

3 .- ECONOMISTS could report that banks offer fixed income products which consist of a return IPC + x% fixed per year.

4 .- IDO PEOPLE THAT HAS THE BANK WITH THE OFFICE OF YOUR HOUSE KEYS for failing to hand over power to pay the mortgage, they could report how was your experience, which took risks, what behavior had the bank ...

5 .- IN GENERAL AND AROUND THE WORLD, reporting on exact knowledge and truth by their everyday work that they see every day and that can really add value to others.

Ultimately, it would share the value that certain people have created for their knowledge or experience.

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# 23, pepipe

October 2, 2008, at 10:44.

It is not my case (for luck), but was concerned that the payment of unemployment benefits (which is not any gift from the government that is paid each month on the nomination) are taking 4 months to pay it, plus the four months hoping to bring some resolution of the composition and the consequent Ere.
As people expect to live 7 months without any income
Well, the head of the Interior of Catalunya said it expects a surge in crime.
Well, sorry but the incitement to crime is punishable in this country and the political leaders are inciting crime many people pass by worker @ s of them
Mr. Attorney General of the State complies with the law and bring to justice all politicians

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# 24, aZkEn

October 2, 2008, at 10:45.

Child believes that Santiago Becerra on the evolution of the Euribor ...

"A few days ago I was invited to participate in the radio program leader in its time slot for Catalonia. The driver of the program, a professional like the top of a pine tree, I was giving entry to different themes to comment on this and that, on the situation we are living, which can be expected, then for ten minutes, the women could ask listeners to send mails that were sent to study in which the program was taking place. One of the questions that I did was expected to evolve how the Euribor. I replied, sure, and I said what follows.

I think the Euribor is ceasing to be what has been, is leaving the post for which it was invented: to reflect the price at which financial institutions are allowed to pasta. The Euribor, today, in what is becoming is an index that measures the degree of mistrust that financial institutions have with each other, and which, in turn, is a picture of the state of distrust of the economy as a whole , So the Euribor is spreading in the level of interest rates: the rates are fixed by decree, the Euribor, no.

It is not going to like what I'm going to say, but I think that in the medium term, the Euribor will continue to rise while interest rates tend to zero. The rates show a wish, and the price at which the ECB wants' everyone 'is provided pasta, belongs, therefore, and more today, the world of dreams; Euribor, however, reflects realities: Moves to street level, and the street is tough.

And those dreams, dreams are. "

Child Santiago Becerra. Professor of Economic Structure. IQS Faculty of Economics. Ramon Llull University.

Cloth, fabric ...

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# 25, danika

Oct 2 2008, at 10:50.

I sincerely believe that the housing desgrabacion per usual would have to be deleted but was unpopular and spend that money to hire a subenciones protected.

Let it be clear that I veneficio and desgrabacion but much of that depends on whether we believe that housing is a right or who is an investment. If it is only the first will have to be this deduction applies to a particular type of housing not exceeding a few square meters, and when you do not have any other. What would be unacceptable to have two floors rented property in this desgrabando me and my house, while the killed living and pay the rent or do not give them water.

If we deem it as an investment really happening today desgrabacion this is out of place.

A greeting.

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# 26, bloval

October 2, 2008, at 10:56.

Trichet decides on rates at 1345 and there is press conference from 1430

What they said Becerra on the Euribor and what we have read here and what we Droblo has repeated several times ... but as always gets lost in prophecies they leave in place its bad title professor. NOBODY knows how to evolve the Euribor although they say the future is that rates are bearish trend so much wonder hike taking into account the fact that there are very powerful measures to ensure that banks are less in need of liquidity.

In any case it would be better to change the rate at which fixed mortgages remain as is the Euribor a entelechy

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# 27, and that's all friends

October 2, 2008, at 10:57.

Veeeeeeengaaaqa to give them back to the Euribor .... If a low 0.25, if not low, as if rises ... ..

Does anyone really believes in this forum that if you download the Euribor 0.25 or 0.50 is going to fix everything?

I have a leasing Euribor and I do not care that goes up or down a point, because there is little money and little time (I am talking about differences of less than 6 € per month)

The problem as I had been saying for some time in the forum is DEBT.

By the way do you not you realize that people are treating as authentic pallets and sheep? He spoke of the real power, OF WHICH ARE THE PASTA

Comes the news that:
-increasing unemployment,
- Decreases trust,
- Lower sales of car,
- Decrease visas,
- Etc ....

PEROOOOO ARE SAVING THE BUSH PLAN THAT PROTECTS THE BANKING and tooooassss BAG P'AAARIIBAAAAA

and Currito p'aaaabaajo do we really think that you importais pepper to a major money, some of you can see how much extrujar and squeeze?

As we continue to believe that 0.25 up or down you will save the cu ...

and the last to turn off the light

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# 28, archyvividor

Oct 2 2008, at 11:00.

BRIDGE OF CONSENT

It is vox populi that our workers of retirement age are killed in an interminable time for a dignified retirement.
As is the rest idly observe a setback to the base salary increase in the cost of our basic needs.
In full "crisis" in 2008 and an increase in unemployment, our companies reward a long day against labor agreements that improve the difficult relationship-day salary.
A worker at the hands of the unions agree that nonsense and the government of the day before such a mismatch looks to the other side.
In six years of the euro has been growth and inflation, depending on the sector, community or many other variables.
Maybe it's time to appear to the rest of Europe at a decent wage, not only in salaries.

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# 29, Anonimo

October 2, 2008, at 11:01.

Habési you realize that the only thing they agree the government and the opposition (any opposition) is saying that Spanish banks have an iron health. Solbes, who has now not be short or with a razor blade, so as not dealt with banks asks Europe to pull granti bank in the Eurozone.

TELL ME WHAT DA.

Each time I am more sure that politics in Spain's handling of the banking.

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# 30, Poor Hablador

October 2, 2008, at 11:02.

I say that if a pendrive Solves thinks "it is magic," and it looks unlikely that Bono "may fit both [the budgets of the state] in something so small," what do think they are the charts of Google Trends? ¿Voodoo? These are the guys who run the country, and they marvel of a simple pencil memory ...

I imagine these two:
- Let's see, we have a spreadsheet of all costs, we will add ...
- Hopes that lame calculator ...

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# 31, fyahball

October 2, 2008, at 11:08.

Messrs.. and SARS. just enter the "Kingdom of the fire."

http://www.elpais.com/misc/fotos/ParoGrafico520.jpg

Let no one say it is not advised.
Exercise "yalodeciayoismo": since the beginning of the year, from January, we have some warning and some holidays we said that in September, October and so was going to consummate the tragedy ...
What else could happen in an economy of Talibanism ladrillil suicide and reckless?
With a society that abused for years of easy credit, hoyga!
A country of timame to me, for me to cheat others ...
A small country of warlords and empresaurios and (yes, this rabble who now seeks to facilitate the dismissal, as if it were easy enough to dismiss people in this country) who threw tb of cheap money ... borrachuzos of cheap borrowing money until the eyebrows ...

Is the clearing house of cards ...

WELCOME TO REIGN OF DA FYAH!

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# 32, V. Gerulaitis

October 2, 2008, at 11:08.

# 27, and that's all friends

I do not know if lowering the Euribor was settled everything, but what if it is settled, if only a little, my balance is on my mind ...

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# 33, Laba

October 2, 2008, at 11:09.

What this hacindo the government now, and everything in between no reason to panic is that banks in Europe do not have any problem and that people do not get the money from deposits patatin, potatoes .... but that the government is going to say? Solbes if you said that the banks do not walk very fÑ eleventh, then around the world to run for our money, but it really should remove it? I had 3000 euros in Ing Direct, which I'm sorry but I have drawn pk as much as we say Solbes, was not I ....

As you suppose that the world is going to be the builders / Developers in 2009? Succeeded to get financing right now neither of which is the coña give ????? Things improved in 2009? Please reply if you have any opinions from me a little head clearance. Thank you

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# 34, sirialuna

October 2, 2008, at 11:09.

we're still currant, it is clear, smoking kills, and also the work we do not lose that ... jejejeje. Yesterday I put the TV channel and changed the milk they gave me bad, like you're leaving people without work, companies in bankruptcy, all very expensive, and I leave the short-Marian (affectionately) and with zp z fighting as a young child, no more no you and your mas, no I do not, you. Imagine you have to feel like a parent who has lost their jobs and that unemployment will not arrive for lunch or watching these two scoundrels without solving anything, and they are gaining a dough.
Is it fair that a tipejo of these studies without working in government with a couple of years and withdrew already gaining a pension for life that doubles your salary to pay for extras included?
think that they have to speak in parliament on the steps of the crisis and has neither less than half the ministers in the room?
I find it pathetic, they will not do anything, and steps are always going to favor those who have not worked in his life, and will as always exclude the currant, the autonomous and employers to everyone else.
lo peor no es eso es que en una empresa se ve que cobraban el día 25 y les han pagado el día 30 dentro del mes, y los tontos diciendo que por esos 5 días que querían cobrar demoras ect… si lo que tienen que dar gracias es que han cobrado y que cuando han llegado a trabajar estaba la empersa abierta, con las deudas que tiene, pero los trabajadores envez de ayudar a mantener su puesto de trabajo para poder salir adelante encima lo unden más.
es triste pero es así.

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# 35 , hipotecaohastalamedula

2 de Octubre de 2008, a las 11:14.

Yo he puesto a buscar hoy otra palabra: DEFLACTACIÓN, ya que parece ser que el Sr. Solbes no DEFLACTARÁ la tarifa del IRPF para el próximo año.

Para quienes buscaban cómo el gobierno iba a recuperar los 400 €, ahí está la solución.

Deflactar la tarifa del IRPF significa subir los tramos del IRPF en igual medida a la inflación, si no se hace, cuando a un trabajador le suban el sueldo = inflación porque la vida sube, puede cambiar de tramo de IRPF y por tanto pagar más impuestos sin cobrar más (le subieron el sueldo en igual medida que subió el coste de la vida así que no ganó poder adquisitivo, pero en cambio paga más impuestos, con lo que en sí perdió poder adquisitivo).

Me gustan las medidas que toma este gobierno para ayudar al proletariado: te regalo 400 € que me devolverás con creces en el 2009.

Por cierto, algo que no llego a entender y me gustaría que alguien me explicara es qué significa: INYECTAR XXX.XXX millones de Euros en la economía para salvar un bache económico. En sí qué se hace?? Se reparte ese dinero entre los bancos?? no lo entiendo.. la verdad…

Un saludo y por lo menos ya es jueves, mañana viernes y dejamos la crisis para el lunes…

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# 36 , Manual del Arrendador…

2 de Octubre de 2008, a las 11:15.

mis queridos inquilinos……venid a mí, ya que no podeis pagar una cipoteca, que yo os acogeré en mis zulitos y de paso me pagais mis hipotecas…….jejejeje

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# 37 , Anónimo

2 de Octubre de 2008, a las 11:16.

# 16 , Raul_VLC

Vuestras empresas están obligadas a reteneros lo correspondiente. La pregunta que haces es muy relativa, pero te aseguro que hacienda no os va devolver más de lo que os ha retenido. Puedes meter los datos en el programa de la renta 2007 y sabrás aprox. lo que te dará a devolver.

Por cierto, ¿Zapatero había dicho en las elecciones que iba intentar lograr el pleno empleo o el pleno desempleo?

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# 38 , village people

2 de Octubre de 2008, a las 11:17.

# 26 , bloval

¿que nadie lo sabe?

Llevo tres años oyendo lo mismo, que NADIE lo sabe. Si lees mensaje de este foro de hace tres, dos y un años, te darás cuenta que si hay gente que tiene muy claro que va a pasar.

Otra cosa es que no te guste

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# 39 , Emilio

2 de Octubre de 2008, a las 11:18.

Uffff…5.526!!!

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# 40 , FRAN

2 de Octubre de 2008, a las 11:18.

# santi

No me gustaba Robin Hood. Eso de quitarle a unos para dárselo a otros solo queda bien en los cuentos. Creo que la desgravación es un soplo de aire fresco para los que estamos hipotecados y no quiero entrar otra vez en el tema de alquiler o hipoteca, que ya hemos “trillao” bastante. Por cierto y sin dogmatismos ¿conoces el banco VVBA?

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# 41 , 6 % YA

2 de Octubre de 2008, a las 11:20.

POBRE 5,50 QUE TAN POCO TIEMPO VAS A ESTAR CON NOSOTROS , YA SE VE EL 5, 60
5,50 EL BREVE

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# 42 , y esto es todo amigos

2 de Octubre de 2008, a las 11:20.

# 32 , V. Gerulaitis

Claro ya mi madre pensionista que tiene los ahorros de toda la vida metido en bancos, esperando cada mes el cobro de sus intereses para sumarlos a su pensión PUES QUE LA ZURZAN ¿NO?

YA TODOS LOS JUBILADOS QUE TIENEN SUS AHORROS EN EL BANCO PUES QUE LOS ZURZAN TAMBIEN ¿NO?

que solo miramos el lado de la moneda que nos interesa ¿tiene mi madre y todos los ahorradores en general alguna culpa que te hayas metido en una cuota que te “moleste” pagar?

¿no te das cuanta que la inflación es el impuesto verdugo de los que tienen menor poder adquisitivo?

Pues mira que quieres que te diga, si te sube la cuota y no te gusta tener una hipoteca vende el piso O CAMBIA TU HIPOTECA A UN INTERES FIJO ¿O ES QUE TODOS LOS QUE TIENEN AHORROS HAN DE PAGAR PORQUÉ TU TENGAS UNA HIPOTCA A INTERES VARIABLE?

y el ultimo que apague la luz

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# 43 , ecam

2 de Octubre de 2008, a las 11:28.

Hace unos minutos he hablado con el director de una entidad bancaria OP de una importante ciudad de una entidad inglesa y casi me “asegura” que el euribor se situará en el 5,85% en octubre. Creo que está en lo cierto.

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# 44 , Ilicitano

2 de Octubre de 2008, a las 11:28.

Cuando me levanto y leo en las noticias que el BCE va a bajar los tipos, me da una alegria, luego sobre las 11 de la mañana el euribor sube y sube, ¿se puede saber quien escribe esas noticias? Octavio acebes? Raphel?

Que salgan ya los de la virgen de la Macarena, es su turno

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# 45 , R. GROVE

2 de Octubre de 2008, a las 11:31.

Todo esta servido señores según lo escrito y oido, en breve asistiremos el espectaculo de los tiempos. Solo un negro nubarrón acecha al noble y formidable euribor, el mentecato Trichet, hasta entonces angustiosa espera.

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# 46 , HipoTKdo

2 de Octubre de 2008, a las 11:31.

Hoy me siento especialmente inspirado…
Anoche tuve una revelacion y quiero aportar mis iluminadas predicciones de los que va a pasar en el futuro:

-El PIB va a crecer 5%
-El paro va a bajar al 4%
-El euribor va a estar en el 3%, 3,5%
-BCE bajara los tipos al 2,5%

Lo digo en serio, recuerden este post.

Me dedicare durante todos los dias sistematicamente “repetir” estos puntos.
Y si, algun dia se seguro se van a cumplir.
Porque la economia es ciclica.

Luego los voy a taladrar a diario para “recordarles” que hace tiempo vengo avisando.

Al lado de muchos posts q leo por aqui, Nostradamus es un aprendiz y Torquemada un niño jugando con cerillas…

Un poco de humor ;-)

Enjoy!

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# 47 , joder!!

2 de Octubre de 2008, a las 11:32.

joder el puto euribor a este paso cierra en Octubre al 6% que hagan algo !! putos bancos ladrones!!!

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# 48 , ANO-NIMO

2 de Octubre de 2008, a las 11:34.

Como está el euribor!!! je je

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# 49 , HipoTKdo

2 de Octubre de 2008, a las 11:37.

Ah me olvidadba…

1 Papa Negro y luego el Apocalipsis!

Enjoy!

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# 50 , Dalma

2 de Octubre de 2008, a las 11:37.

#27, y esto es todo

Buenos días a todos, estoy totalmente de acuerdo con
# 32 , V. Gerulaitis, yo no se si bajando el euribor se solucionara algo en la economia europea, pero de lo que estoy segura es que mi bolsillo y mi cuenta corriente lo agradecerían enormemente, y sinceramente, todo lo demas me importa un pepino, y lo digo sin querer ofender a nadie, simplemente lo unico que me preocupa es poder pagar mi casa y llegar a fin de mes.

Un saludo a todos

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