Big Brother

Nowadays the partnered these two words to a program of dubious social value (although I admit that I followed the first editions) where some energúmenos with a great desire for notoriety and ego grown so excessive, was insulted by the day and make edredoning at night, giving an excellent example of how NOT to behave. The program is named after a character mysterious and pervasive in the novel 1984 by George Orwell, excellent work that strongly recommend to all.

The novel was written in the late 40s, and it poses a future society Orwell (1984) split into two groups, members of the single party, living under repression, and a mass of poor people living in isolation from politics . "Big Brother" additional to any political character, is the guardian and supreme court, which monitors only almighty and tirelessly. Dominates the life and thought of the whole society, using various techniques, including the placement of cameras in all the rooms (hence the name of the program), putting up screens in all the houses that did not stop issuing propaganda of the party, the thought police, the chivatazos of its own citizens, etc ... The protagonist, Winston Smith, works at the Ministry of Truth and its mission is to rewrite history.

Fortunately, not Orwell was right on almost anything, and his novel became a great texts of literature, fiction, but nevertheless, to read it, we can recognize certain traits that have been met and that they should get the meat of chicken. Does the work that our friend Smith developed there as of today? Are there people who are dedicated to rewrite history and eliminate or modify the information passed to the present always seems better than the past?

In part it may seem that if, as, for example, when the INE public the CPI nobody block, in fact there are websites devoted to collecting data on their own and publish their actual CPI, reaching conclusions that tend to bend the increases in CPI published by the INE.

In fact our leaders do not need to stop accumulating newspaper clippings, save links to favorite articles with chicha and make notes of what is happening around us, that we do not do it by themselves. We do the maintenance work being alienated so docile and creyéndonos (or not) what we have. The only thing you should do is publish the data that interest them on a propaganda and the others do or not do so cryptic or biased. Anybody can give a link where there is a time series of monthly average price of petrol from January 2006 until today? Probably somebody in the forum will know what to find, but it is not an easy task.

A fairly recent example, a few months ago, when diesel was sold for 1.30 € / l and the barrel was $ 147, carriers made a "strike employer" (a concept as contradictory as military intelligence) that was closed in false by an agreement partnerships with the majority, and it is assumed that the state granted them some benefits. So much for everyone but:

Why last week that the barrel was $ 95 (-35%), and gasoline was sold for € 1.20 / l (-7.6%) did not came out to demonstrate against this? So the agreements are beneficial to those who arrived? What were those agreements?

Probably they are published in BOE, but the BOE is designed for anyone to read, except for a minority (cryptic publication)

Who is to blame? Does our being confident and a bit vague, or our rulers for not being honest?

I propose today to collect duties as links to news (eye to bias) where we can observe that contained more than one would be more disposed to the style of Orwell's Big Brother.

Clear example of a year ago 27-09-2007 - The Euribor has plateaued

And finally, we observers collecting news of the day:

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# 1, Manuel

September 22, 2008, at 9:45.

To know the history of gas prices,

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# 2, Raf

September 22, 2008, at 9:47.

Good morning,

The CPI is very worrisome levels, but since August we are seeing a downward path around 4.9%.

If it is true that many times the actual data differ greatly to the reality. Normalente the real CPI is usually higher than the "official".

Therefore, I see the ground in real CPI CPI real, not fictitious CPI

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# 3, Manuel

September 22, 2008, at 9:50.

uy, I cut the commentary!

Historical fuel prices -> http://www.mityc.es/Petroleo/Seccion/Precios/Informes/InformesMensuales/

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# 4, oreidubic

September 22, 2008, at 9:55.

Good morning,

After a weekend of vintage and surrounded by Moroccan ucranainos (Where are the nationals without work?) I have learned certain macroeconomic (and suffered a lumbago).

1. The basket of Mercadona has risen from 50 € 90 € in just over a year. (hue: CPI is a part and the other Mercadona, according to the OCU, has been one of the supermarket chains that prices have risen most in a year).

2. The Moroccans have been a week of work and was returning to his country for lack of work in Catalunya. The controversy of the origin is not contracting in height than it appears. Who will harvest and harvests next year?. Will the people who have lost work in the real estate?.

I laugh myself of outdoor training by paying a fortune ... .. 6-7 Horit giving you the scissors and a pile clarifies ideas and problems from insomnia ... 0 (this phrase is a metaphor) ..

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# 5, hipotecadodeporvida

September 22, 2008, at 9:58.

Collect links to old news ... does not 6 months .. .. but I Erm birth of laughter, to read them again ..

http://www.20minutos.es/noticia/336104/0/solbes/pizarro/debate/

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# 6, retranchetillo

September 22, 2008, at 10:04.

I sincerely believe that our government should put Solbes an economist but the truth, fewer numbers and more sensibly, a housewife of those who almost did not reach the end of the month with four children and that has to do "economics" real , We would be better this country because the politicians are where they are by the powerful knight and the sweat of all, if they try to work for the country is to not lose his or her salary or status. Menuda bunch of impresentables.

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# 7, pepipe

September 22, 2008, at 10:06.

Buenos dias
How is the theme of Banif (Banco Santander) and the bankruptcy of funds for many banks (Sorry for clients)

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# 8, Dinky

September 22, 2008, at 10:16.

CLopez, leyendote take a long time, and each day I have perfected hallucinogenic more like the way you write, almost always beginning with an introduction that has little or nothing to do with finance, then, with a pirouette, getting squarely in the micro-and macroeconomic figures.

1984 is one of those books that everyone should read, curiously Orwell wrote not thinking of capitalist society but on what he (communist who had been convinced - see eg 'homage to Catalonia ") feared that degenerating Marxism.

In 1984, Orwell describes a society with three classes: members of the party system, members of the party and outside the "offspring".

Members ~ "internal" are the ones who move the cotarro, decision makers know more or less the reality and exploit the two remaining classes.

The members "outside" have decent jobs but live enganyados, guarded by the telepantallas which is projected constantly a "Big Brother" watching you. Fearful of missing the discipline of the party and being arrested and tortured by the police of thought (literally sinning by thought, word, work or default), fearful of being denounced by their colleagues, neighbors or relatives ... and we all serve the state and the individual is worth nothing.

Winston is a member "external" and as such is the interest politics, has a working white-collar as well say focusing on re-writing history, but it happens penalties and does not understand almost anything around him.

The offspring and animals are free.

As curiosity can be said that another well-known book of Orwell, "Revolt on the farm," a shocking story about animals who rebel against the human masters, was banned in Russia and all countries in its orbit, introduction, illegal in the country ... in a cart of feed for farm (the story can be whimsical and ironic.

A recommended reading for anyone, and then as a contrast "Brave New World"

Good week to all

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# 9, BTX

September 22, 2008, at 10:19.

I think it was bad idea to ask to be searched and put old news as this today is going to stop being a blog economy for the umpteenth time and it will return a poultry house of politics ...

Clopez prepares the scissors

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# 10, New

September 22, 2008, at 10:20.

Some time ago I read that you and I never dared to write anything. I am aware of my lack of knowledge in economics but with this blog I am learning a lot.
That's why I decided to ask a question, it sure is easy for you.
I signed my mortgage in late July. The review, I will play the February 29 (come on, that 28). My question is what is the Euribor to be applied, that of January or December?.

Thank you

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# 11, Paniagua

September 22, 2008, at 10:24.

Phew ... I've touched the heart, there is another book "a brave new world" of a. Huxley very interesting, do not have much to do with the economy but in some ways it is easy to find similarities with today's society. Was preparing to people from the embryo to adapt to their profession and their environment. Then there were the savages who were like us and I remember that was kept at bay the population through drugs and isolation. For me the importance of these works is that you realize that we feel that we are free in our actions and thoughts ... but in reality is not so we always conditioned by our education, and family information. We think today with the information that we are freer than ever "but it does not, because the majority is very distorted, and our ego sometimes makes us discard information that we do not understand, because we are unwittingly manipulated. Anyway I have gone about the bush ... it's so easy to find contradictory reports today, if that does not strive to look, just any diagnosis of our enlightened Minister of Economy, said that where I say diego said. "I just was not to anything" this has been the motto of my life since I look at a book of natural in the EGB that water was an inexhaustible resource, and after a few years turned out that not only was a lie, but that will probably be the big problem of humanity, from that day I decided that the information should be fuck with tweezers.

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# 12, Anonymous

September 22, 2008, at 10:26.

http://bp1.blogger.com/_YWqmXigxG9o/RwTanZHy6wI/AAAAAAAAAlA/vSarITn4CXE/s1600-h/euribor-historico.gif

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# 13, Lopez juanfer

September 22, 2008, at 10:26.

Have you noticed the surge in oil prices?. No, if we grow the dwarves, go canvas.

Anyway, at least even the news can cover up the bad economic times with the sporting triumphs, it is as if we did see that when Nadal wins the low mortgage us 20 euros.

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# 14, Student

September 22, 2008, at 10:27.

It is now not much to write, but it seems that today's topic smells like "tele-trash."
In my area of general culture (I am beginning to think that you should write a book) I'm going to write something that I have always advocated:
Adam Smith IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE ANTI-GLOBALIZATION MOVEMENT
1 Adam Smith advocated the elimination of customs (igualito that the anti-globalization) as well poorest countries will be able to sell cheap labor, natural resources and agriculture in rich countries.
2 As in the previous section of customs, would also eliminate aid for production (if not be in perfect competition), this way it would sell the produce cheaper consiguiese (eliminate aid positive and negative).
3 Like the anti-globalization, Adam Smith does not defend the patents, one with the aim of finding the perfect competition and other so people do not die by African perfectly curable diseases.
4th Adam Smith was not the first to speak of supply and demand, but if it was the one who popularized the term

a greeting:
Student
PS: Adam Smith would be clearly contrary to control production of a product such as oil

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# 15, danika

September 22, 2008, at 10:29.

What the CPI that cries out to heaven really pegunta we should ask is not whether it is 4% of the great unknown is there any product that has just gone up by 4%.

The worst thing is when you earn a lie year after year because if we add all the IPCs and weighted annually for the last 8 years, the result is that the price increase in eight years was 32%.

The result of not updating the CPI in the right way are obviously are the "new poor" who are the typical worker who lived well a few years ago and his salary ever given to make them less till almost going into poverty.

A greeting

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# 16, J.

September 22, 2008, at 10:29.

a # 10, New

Normally January, as it is published officially to the 20 of next month. But it depends on what they put in scriptures of your mortgage. The easiest way to see it is when you did last year or what was the first reference (in case the contract in February 2008: jeje, is also twisted hire a day that exists only every 4 years ... normally 29 February becomes March 1 to legal issues).

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# 17, JAC

September 22, 2008, at 10:31.

What happens with crude oil?

In a week has risen to $ 20 Do you still did not pass the storm IKE?
Do we still with "problemillas" in Somalia? Have become the "especulatas" to his course?

The good news is that "some" and have the excuse to explain the rebound in CPI (which will return), the acceleration of the slowdown (that we) and others to justify the hike in fuel (which, too, is doors).

... A troubled river gains, speculators ...

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# 18, Winston

September 22, 2008, at 10:33.

What a great book! Written by Orwell's disappointment towards the course of Stalin's communism. It has not been fulfilled but you can find plenty of similarities at the moment. Vale we do not have cameras in every house but there is the shadow of the Echelon project that in the end is almost the same thing but in more subtle.

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# 19, Fran Diaz

September 22, 2008, at 10:37.

I remove, remove this article:
Statistics for sales of land in 2008
That the content of it I do.

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# 20, Staring at the Sun

September 22, 2008, at 10:38.

How frequent visitor to the forum of the Real Estate Bubble I have the pleasure of reading to calópez from time to time. His economic analysis preceded by a history Chorra but curious and are more attractive to own this site, but their style is unmistakable here in the bubble or in any other forum where they write.

So far calópez not be too Pring giving opinions about what should be or what should be done, but simply to explain the economic facts so that each of us to draw their own conclusions debate. Hence the comment page that follows each article you write is pretty decent read. But today, oh friend calópez!, Today you will note the contest. I do not know if that will hurt you as an economist to see that they are doing with our system, or simply that you've lost the fear that you shut down the forums and you want it, a bloody time, our pasotismo to denounce the outrages to which we are subject. Accusing the government of lying is not a novelty, but to accuse us of vague and not knowing what to value so much effort has cost to own ... That's almost a revolutionary.

As revolutionary as the second amendment of the Constitution of the United States, which allows each U.S. citizen having a gun in order, not fend off other citizens, BUT ONE'S OWN GOVERNMENT. calópez, you want a second amendment in Europe? Are you tired of seeing us not trample and we complain? Do you get tired of being just an analyst and want to go into action for real?

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# 21, erg

September 22, 2008, at 10:39.

Good morning, about 1984, always a book to Fahrenheit 451, burning books also rewrites history.

I wanted to put this link: http://www.cotizalia.com/cache/2008/09/22/opinion_8_mayor_deficit_espana_publico_exterior.html because I think this is the future of a country, as Benicio del Toro in Che, a people who do not read or write is a people easy to manipulate and Spain is becoming more so, in my humble opinion.

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# 22, Poor Hablador

September 22, 2008, at 10:40.

Since then more and more similarities to Orwell's book in this society we live. Every time we find more stories where we monitored or controlled "by our security." In fact, all these measures are proposed by the lobbyists (multinationals, telephone, oil, SGAE ...) and then the government implements laws or notices of "public awareness"

Every time we have less freedom for a "sense of security" that does not fool anyone.

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# 23, MOLLET

September 22, 2008, at 10:44.

Good morning ..

This comment on VAT and the CPI on Saturday and what I do now again if there is someone who might know .. Since there is room for uploading (of our countries around this higher over the crisis and the state must raise more)
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Hello ..

One question, you may fool, but ... In calculating the CPI, calculated on what the final price of a range of products and this ok? Does not the price is VAT with or without VAT? ... I wonder if they would raise VAT by January 1 or 2%. (4,7,16% now pass to 6,9,18%) that affect the inflation?

Forgive my ignorance Soble the subject ..

Greetings

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# 24, marron_cillo

September 22, 2008, at 10:45.

# 22, I feel stress, but ... this is VERY IMPORTANT: SAVING

Well, look, why not, to save, you drop on the Internet?

Save your subscription, and when we rest.

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# 25, algecireño

September 22, 2008, at 10:45.

Today I had a beautiful dream, the Euribor fell to a 3.5, which ufffffffffffffff cane ... ... ... .. I've woken up and want to tell you that, muuaaaaaaaa muuuaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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# 26, Isolde

September 22, 2008, at 10:47.

Clopez, "the Euribor has touched" roof

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# 27, jdx

September 22, 2008, at 10:49.

I'd rather not look so incompetent Solbes said referring to the roof of the Euribor and point down ... should just resign himself to read after 1 years! you do not feel shame! this character if we have to get out of the crisis, we are ready.

Referring to gasoline, is perhaps the most weight of the forum provided by commenting that if low that if you go up, but I boiled the blood that time that each day of work at home watching the poster of the gas station and every day, up 1 penny, medium, whatever, but every day. And now, dropped by 35%, and in 3 weeks, has been completely stalled, and in the last week has dropped 4centimillos of shit, because I do not know if it's a good idea, but always done in bp, and I'm going to go to repsol, which is always 2cent. cheaper. I have no choice? as that.

As in the Mercadona, every time I take away more and pay less, and that I'm on a diet!! if comiese which 2 years ago, god!! Well, the monopoly, the other day and I was not at Mercadona, I went to the crossroads he thought it was expensive (2 years ago ...) and I think I came out cheaper than ever. between the 3 × 2 there, and that being a partner earn bonuses, then turn into discounts on your next purchase. which in Mercadona, Nastia of plastic. rancid!

And what of truck drivers, so I took over here and I would put some negative carrier! the peels but I can not be that lloréis lloréis and vagueeis, and when you go down the gasoil, whistling and look the other way. Why? because comeback to win a dough as in the past, right? In my work, we spent a skipjack, in fractions of half a penny and euro cent diesel fuel that went up, from 1EUR to 1.75euros, you were boarding a truck of the facturita% rising logically. you think? I raise diesel 2céntimos, but I love a 5% increase in the bill. to pm
I find all about sausages, vague, and strong character, and also now have less q fatigues, who by chance that always caught caravans, have queued in all customers and so on. for what? to always be getting more hours, to continue inflándose pockets. They are incompetent and I do not deserve any respect, and I did not come with it are weeks away from home, (q thing is true) and that is very dangerous 20toneladas lead at the wheel, because look, I'm sick of it ahead of trailers 20toneladas as decíis to 130 and I eat the culete of my car to 110km / h, or I am the only one who did so?, Because I talk about regional trucking routes, which are their great majority, and 5 are in your house . In the end, warm strike me as even more ... so you really get to Curran, who does not have to go fishing sector to another thing to consider, or that everything on routes and costs, which in addition to being better for it will be better for the environment instead of putting so many radars and 80km / h across the sector bcn, and also de-congest all aupistas and carreteritas, you think? because of that and now to downgrade companies 10% of your bills, which are in crisis here and around the world should work to lower inflation and out of the crisis.

Another unfortunate thing is that in the days running and more on our beloved homeland ... engaged in a tough 45minutos that information, 1minute to the crisis, 5 to the statistics of a shortcut useless, 10 to the Pasarela Cibeles, and 20minutazos ! review the goals of the day. No one realizes? It is painful, then that if people are insufficiently informed, no wonder, with these mier.da media you want! They are deceived!

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# 28, NEW

September 22, 2008, at 10:52.

Thanks J.
It turns out that I can not look at the previous update because it is the first.
I signed the mortgage on July 29 so my first review is the February 29 (or March 1 as me clarify). The truth is that grace has made me realize the date. The first interest rate was fixed at 6 months.
As I read in the few papers that I have by now (the land register in my area is slow) that makes the upgrade will be done according to the Euribor mortgage published in Official Gazette.

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# 29, Clon01

September 22, 2008, at 10:57.

Of course, like every Monday. How is it possible that at this stage do not know which is the day that publishes Oriolc?
Oh, and on Friday droblo touches. Not tropeceis twice with the same stone!
;)

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# 30, Toni

September 22, 2008, at 11:00.

All U.S. presidents have been member of this sect ...

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_&_Bones

These are the ones who govern us. The bombing of the twin towers was planned by Cheney ...

http://ecodiario.eleconomista.es/cultura/noticias/488691/04/08/Club-Bilderberg-el-gran-poder-en-la-sombra-nuevo-hito-del-thriller-contemporaneo.html

Just when you started to attack Bush governed from the twin towers. When its mandate ends operates the financial system that he himself momentum. Daniel Estulin, in 2006 informed of the impending war against Iran, yes, Iran, which is already being planned, and that was to have begun before the oil is pondíra $ 150. Information extracted from the Bilderberg Club meetings.

CAREFUL WITH THIS CRISIS. EVERYTHING IS PLANNED.

http://www.elmundo.es/papel/2006/04/22/opinion/1960953.html

Everything maqueado. Four families dominate the world. And not satisfied with what they have. They want more and gives them the same way to achieve

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# 31, Isolde

September 22, 2008, at 11:14.

Well, pardon Clopez, Oriolrc corrects your post "The Euribor" He has played "roof"

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# 32, MERLIN

September 22, 2008, at 11:27.

Hello to everyone s
Euribor 5440
This should not stop anyone

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# 33, krollian

September 22, 2008, at 11:27.

The Euribor has plateaued. If it has touched. With regard to the plain of days ago it.

5.410.

Both inject money continues to rise ... and this is another way to combat delinquency. Only that way will probably emerge more delinquent, yet ...

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# 34, marianico1

September 22, 2008, at 11:32.

http://www.abc.es/20080922/economia-empresas-banca/inyecta-millones-dolares-apoyo-200809220956.html
and I say that when I injected some of that money in my nomination? that always came at the end of the month without liquidity

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# 35, Euribor up up!

September 22, 2008, at 11:34.

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Already warned ... ... what I said on this.

Subidón those who make history ...!

EURIBOR 12 MONTHS (360) 5440 0030 0555 5440 4287 22/09/2008

5.44 That is the style or the Tourmalet ... Anglirú!

Prepare ... the worst is to come!

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# 36, R. GROVE

September 22, 2008, at 11:35.

The average gap with the Euribor already exceeds the value of the previous month Will break the historical record of 5390? Times are approaching epic and epics of teomaquias never seen before.

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# 37, less evil of injections of liquidity

September 22, 2008, at 11:36.

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EURIBOR 5.44%

Thank goodness you're speaking USA, ECB, BOJ and that the birth mother.

If not ... because this would be the HIMALAYA!

Jejeje!

Save!

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# 38, J.

September 22, 2008, at 11:38.

Euribor and you still go up.

I believe that the worst of the crisis has passed when:

a) the differential between the Euribor 1 year and the rate of the ECB down 50 basis points, and
b) the interest rate of the letters 3M USA rise of 1%.

Currently, the a) is at 119 basis points (and rising) and b) to 0.03%, which is fear: people who put their dough to 0.03% of interest only to "ensure" that not going to lose (and that the U.S. Treasury with a default would be shut down and let 's go).

We will have to be attentive to the letters 3M Spain next October 15: Mogollon of rock will come to sack. Remember that your monetary fund is no longer sure: when was the last time you saw the composition of your portfolio? Sure you did not have Lehmans, or Morgans Stanleys? What has a lot of concentration for a bank / box Spanish?

what I say, we are making WORST 15 days ... with or without American rescue him.

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# 39, J.

September 22, 2008, at 11:41.

a # 28, NEW

date to March 1 2009, the final value of the BoE published in the Euribor will be that of January 2009, which probably has left the 19 or Feb. 20.

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# 40, jdx

September 22, 2008, at 11:46.

Where do you think reach the Euribor?
igual empiezan a salir muertos ya mismo por europa

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# 41 , No me lo creo

22 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 11:52.

Hay que ver, en cuanto sale un comentario orientado a la manipulación de ésta crisis como el comentario número 30, se le ponen negativos.

¿De verdad os creéis que las todas las cosas pasan por casualidad?
La crisis ha comenzado con el estallido de la burbuja inmobiliaria, pero, ¿ha estallado o alguien la ha pinchado ahora?

Yo no digo que el tal Estulin tenga la razón (he leído uno de sus libros y la verdad es que está un poco paranoico), pero, ¿por qué nos creemos más lo que nos dice la prensa que lo que dice este hombre?. ¿Acaso la prensa nos muestra las pruebas de todo lo que leemos en ella?

Seamos realistas, nosotros somos el final de la cadena, nos llega la información siempre por los mismos conductos y aunque esté manipulada no tenemos forma de contrastarla por nuestros propios medios así que nos la creemos, pero eso no quiere decir que sea verdad.

Otra cosa es lo que podamos hacer. Personalmente creo que nada, aguantar el chaparrón, porque aunque yo sí que creo que esta crisis y casi todo en este mundo está manipulado, poco podemos hacer. Si te suben el EURIBOR pues tienes que pagar más, haya sido manipulada o no la subida.

Saludos

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# 42 , Thälmann

22 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 11:58.

qué T5 lleve 10 GH, indica claramente en que país vivimos….. es para tirar a papelera de reciclaje completamente….

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# 43 , 6 % ya

22 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 12:01.

Vamonooooosssss
euribor 5,44
en navidad al 6 %

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# 44 , Murdok

22 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 12:04.

en navidad un parado mas el del 6% ya

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# 45 , jdx

22 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 12:05.

donde coj…. va el petroleo otra vez a 105$ ??!!!! pero és que la gente és ciega o que?????????? ojalá rebienten todos los banqueros y los petroleros!!!!!!!!!!!! hoy estoy muy indignado, no escribo más…

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# 46 , Alex

22 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 12:08.

Este enlace agrupa bastantes datos interesantes como IPC eurozona (HICP), euribor diario y mensual, evolución de los tipos de interés de las principales potencias, etc. Está muy bien para ver la evolución de los datos y comparar entre distintos países, y además está muy actualizado:

http://www.bof.fi/en/tilastot/korot/kuviot.htm

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# 47 , Anónimo

22 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 12:09.

# 42 , Thälmann
lo bueno de la poca libertad que gozamos es que puedes cambiar de cadena cuando quieras (nunca he visto el gh), el problema es que no te deje tu mujer cambiar de emisora (se acabó la poca libertad que teniamos).
:)

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# 48 , Jorge76

22 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 12:11.

Creo que lo del IPC no es nada nuevo. Ya nos engañaron con la entrada del euro. Cierto es que los precios altos no subieron (coches, pisos, etc…) más allá de lo que la ley del mercado marcó (en este caso el boom inmobiliario) pero… ¿y la cesta de la compra? La conversión real, pese a lo que nos contaron los muñecos de plastilina, fue 20 duros = 1 euro. Lo peor es que, lejos de compensarse con los años, lo que entonces era un euro “para redondear”, ahora está nuevamente “des-redondeado” y vale 1.30, 1.40 o lo que les de la gana.

Antes, al menos en el sur, un sueldo de 200000 ptas. era un sueldazo. Ahora un sueldo de 1200 euros da simplemente para vivir. ¿Y no ha pasado tanto, verdad? ¿O sí? ;)

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# 49 , Anónimo

22 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 12:14.

¿Quién es el que decide que suba el euribor?

mira que es mala persona!

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# 50 , TVno

22 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 12:16.

# 47 , Anónimo
¿Porqué siempre decimos lo de cambiar de canal? ¿Porque no apagamos la tele directamente y pensamos por nosotros mismos?
Hay muchas cosas que se pueden hacer aparte de ver la TV.

Ya sé que diréis que esto no es economía pero igual que damos por hecho que al llegar a casa hay que encender la tele, en economía damos por hecho muchas otras cosas que no deberían ser.

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