Wing loading and financial burden

Given that this crisis has had significant aviation background, as it was long treated as a "soft landing", via the famous Box 737 poorly executed in many drafts of the statement of income and my hobby declared to the world of aviation Today I would like to present the story in these terms.

There is a concept called air wing loading which refers to the kg / m² wing on the aircraft, and is a ratio which is obtained by dividing the total weight of the airplane between the number of m² having wing or surface lift. The values in commercial aircraft around 100kg / m². (0.5 kg m² in sailboats up to 600 kg / m² fighters). This applies from the most simple models of the airplane until the big intercontinental aircraft.

To achieve lower wing loading just have to grow wings (or decrease the weight) but this will not only increase the lift, but it increases the friction (loss of speed) and consumption, so it is important to find a point of balance that allows us to fly with enough lift and with an adequate and cost-effective. Aeronautical engineers, who are all thought to make its most profitable aircraft, invented the flalps, which are that part of the wing that unfolds backward at the time of take-off and soil and thus increasing the size of the wings ( and modifying the wing profile) manage to reduce the wing loading in the two moments in which the plane flies more slowly, thus making flotón more.

This concludes that the planes with high wing loading are fast (and need not be so but because they fly), but have little ability to glide and enter immediately lost, and those with low wing loading, are slower but more reliable in moments engaged as the shutdown of an engine or a slow flight before landing.

The concept of wing loading and the financial burden (which means amount of debt purchased by a company in connection with operations carried out), I think we have some parallels.

Companies with high financing costs, are more efficient at a time when the economy is flying at high speed, achieving spectacular growth as in recent times. By contrast, companies with little debt (structure typical family business that takes few risks) offers greater resistance to high speeds, because the large operations that could lead the company to double-digit growths, often require substantial inputs of liabilities external demand, and that scares the most conservative businessman.

But when things warp speed and the system loses, companies with greater financial burden, they start to have problems of lift and go into loss, the air that stand in flight away and sink like a stone. By contrast, companies with less financial burden, they are able to continue flying in the air at a lower speed and plan (to us be absolutely dependent on larger companies that break).

As always, virtue is at the midpoint, as a structure removed in debt and external financing after causing major problems when this fails, and a corporate structure reluctant to credit leads to slower growth.

The figure of the "flap financial" should be a tool that would allow ease the financial burden in difficult times and this could be articulate in several ways:

The first and simplest would be that our beloved promoters who are asking for aid to the government, reinvesting (via a capital increase) the extraordinary profits that were in recent years to increase the equity of their companies and reduce the sector's debt ratios But I feel that it will not be.

The second would be that the banks in an exercise in altruism (write to banks and altruism in the same sentence, I mark it as a grammatical error!) Condoms partially debts, but I feel it is going to be no.

The third is the socialization of losses, which most hurts us all. In the PSOE's own website can read a press release of September 7, 2008 in which Zapatero said "do not ask Him to save money for those companies that have had huge profits through processes in many cases that have not been appropriate for the economy, "but it seems that was not convinced either to themselves and a few days later, promised" 3,000 million euros to builders to encourage the hiring. " It should be clarified so as not to create bias (for that are already journalists) who are in the form of loans ICO.

Well, waiting for someone to comment on whether it worked or not the Excel spreadsheet that he proposed last week, I wish you a good day and a happy flight.

And to entertain the passage, I leave with you a summary of the press in a particularly stormy day in terms of the economy:

Ojo, because of what Lehman is no nonsense, talking about the largest bankruptcy in U.S. since 1990 and the third investment bank that disappears or changes hands in six months in that country, Lehman has no less than 46,000 million dollars ( 32,200 million euros) in mortgage securities.

Agárrense coming turbulenciaas.

Written by Oriolrc the Sept. 15, 2008 with 241 points.
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# 1, Carlos Lopez

September 15, 2008, at 9:19.

I've created a new forum (which shall be final) to discuss the issues outside the rule of the day (politics, abortion, etc.).
What you have in: http://www.euribor.com.es/foro/
I hope that helps to leave the area clean and clear comments.

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# 2, Mano H20

September 15, 2008, at 9:19.

Hello everyone:

One of the great mysteries to humans was the formula for Coca-Cola. Today, thanks to advertising, we know that this formula is written in a grain of rice, contained in a glass bottle, metida in a casket, who swallowed a whale, which lives in a lake that is within a volcano, guarded by a two-headed monster.
Mystery revealed.

Another great mystery to me, is the price of a liter of diesel. For more than looking on the internet, I do not understand it. One country, including Saudi Arabia, producing a barrel of oil that someone buying a $ 99. What happens to the barrel? Who buys it? A refinery? That refinery is in Spain or outside Spain? The refinery in question operates with the barrel and produces, among other things, a liter of diesel. That liter of diesel is sold to whom and at what price? To a wholesaler of diesel fuel? This wholesaler that distributes diesel to a form gas station?
At what point the state tax applies to that liter of diesel and at what rate?. What the gas station mark-liter that applies to you? Is he who sets the final price paid by the consumer or it is given by someone?
And for me the fundamental question: the liter, which I have set in my car this morning, comes from a barrel that was purchased When and at what price?
Yesterday, reappeared LEON, put a link very interesting in that he had come to say that about us Timan at 9 cents for every liter of fuel. Not bad. Oriolrc also cites the link.

Another big mystery is why a state (in this case the U.S.) comes to the rescue with public money to private companies. If someone has taken a paste gansa to do evil things, would it not be more normal left to be done puñetas their business rather than go out to the rescue with the money of all taxpayers? I think he has been here on several occasions called "socializing the losses." Come on, something like what I am trying to do here with the real estate sector.

I believe that today Wall Street is going to live, in fact, a chaotic journey to the brink of financial heart of the matter by Lehman, who has been declared bankrupt. It seems that Bank of America, which was one of the potential buyers of Lehman, has opted to buy Merrill Lynch.

In Italy there seems to be agreement in principle with the theme of Alitalia. As is the backyard! With this and with the bankruptcies of British tour operators. The truth is seen, it seems, I get real canguelo catch a plane.

Certainly worthy of being the article that refers to a report by Bernard Connolly, chief strategist of Banque AIG, "entitled" Solbes, Almunia and the dance of seven veils. " According to the report, Spain should get out of the euro or suffer a crisis bigger than the Great Depression:

http://www.cotizalia.com/cache/2008/09/15/noticias_63_espana_salirse_sufrira_crisis_mayor.html

In order to see that we are given the day and how all this affects the value of the Euribor.

Salu2.

PD .- The other big mystery to me to be resolved is whether "Peter Pan" is whether or not some sort of affair with "Campanilla." But that is another matter and the subject of discussion in other forums. Although I think it does have an important "wing loading" the matter. The magic powders and stuff.

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# 3, Raul_VLC

September 15, 2008, at 9:23.

It seems that everything is pretty bad! and it also seems that this has not yet finished.
Today ga fear economic lasnoticias read, see the bag .... pobrede person holding shares
http://www.invertia.com/
Well, we will always be that the oil is falling, http://www.bloomberg.com/markets/commodities/cfutures.html
Brent Crude FUTRO (U.S. $ / bbl.) 95,960 -1,620 -1.66 02:59
WTI CRUDE FUTURE (U.S. $ / bbl.) 99,030 -2,150 -2.12 02:39

And for the saver, a headline: THE CRISIS BRINGS TO SAVE THE BEST IN 10 YEARS DEPOSITS
http://www.invertia.com/canales2/canal.asp?idcanal=753

But a reflection, it is useless to think that everything will go to hell ... .. I do not like my mortgage to them ... ... .. If everything goes wrong, anger also bad for everyone. Not interested in this situation for anyone, whether or not you have mortgage, pq do not have it and if you run out of work, you like the story down to 50%, it can not buy!

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# 4, Ibys

September 15, 2008, at 9:25.

It seems that the thing is getting very malita, and not just nationally but globally. To see how European stock markets respond to the bankruptcy of Lehman.

Indeed, in the blogosphere I have come across this:
Proposals to solve the economic crisis Spanish

And with respect to bankruptcy:
I sidestep, Tu bankruptcy, the bankruptcy ....

I recommend the Os.

S2 and good morning ;)

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# 5, PTT

September 15, 2008, at 9:28.

In reference to energy savings, the other day I was hanging around the head and I raise an issue:
Google has the wallpaper with little white text. More than 1.000.0000.0000 monitors are turned on with the fund that white is the color that consumes more energy.
Simply whether Google changed the background color from white to gray ... What's clear is no longer emit CO2 into the atmosphere? How many power plants would be avoided?

Does anyone could calculate what?

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# 6, Bea.

September 15, 2008, at 9:29.

Good morning,

Oriolrc not understand the reference section 737 in the commentary.

What does the deduction for housing usual (before 2006) with the wing loading / financial?

Encounter a sense whether paragraph "But when things warp speed and the system loses, companies with greater financial burden, they start to have problems of lift and go into loss, the air that stand in flight away and sink as a stone. By contrast, companies with less financial burden, they are able to continue flying in the air at a lower speed and plan (to us be absolutely dependent on larger companies that break), "if you change" firm "with" family "

In this case:
- Will not be possible capital increase, despite what has been an increase in gambling
- The bank's debts do not condone in any house implemented embargoes,
- And the government will not come to rescue or with access to soft loans.

And then we have to pay taxes via the excesses of business.

Takes longer!.

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# 7, fyahball

September 15, 2008, at 9:31.

Interesting and hopeful day for the Americans usurers in flames ... JAJAJA!

It gave seen reels of pasta to insolvent by assets that either were not worth half of what they were funding ...

I Know that this could happen around here ... I do not know, I've heard something ... I have said on TV ...

No! No! No! Too improbable!

Junkie BURNIIIIING MONEY !!!!!

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# 8, retranchetillo

September 15, 2008, at 9:32.

The burden we carry is alarming "wing shit" the whole economic system and eye, we are starting on Christmas will be catastrophic, and this is going to cost us no trace of a year or two, but six or seven to start to see things differently color, now we must move as possible.
Health for All!

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# 9, pepipe

September 15, 2008, at 9:32.

Hello everybody,
QUESTION: someone Canvi convertible bonds on the day of Santander on October 4 to 16 € when the shares today are at 10.87 € which did good business sr. Boot

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# 10, Carlos Lopez

September 15, 2008, at 9:33.

Bea # 6

http://www.euribor.com.es/2008/05/28/boeing-737/

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# 11, fyahball

September 15, 2008, at 9:38.

Rescue here a text, "porqueyolovalgo," where I explain it gives me so much shame that the honest and kind Americans have some economic problemillas. This is not thoroughly reviewing all its economic evil (would take years), if not to give four strokes to as this country has been enriched. (By the way, Leon and Flank, I understand your nuances, and you've got right things you say. Regarding Fidel, it is absolutely recommend the documentary "commander" (2003, Oliver Stone), there are the greatness and misery of the Cuban regime ...)
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To begin with, the origin of the United States is none other than the appropriation of land and extermination by the strength of its rightful owners: the American Indians. Curiously called wild, many tribes respect and live with nature as it has never made any norteamaricano.

This country was able to grow and be enriched only on the basis of slavery later. Without hesitation, they brought slaves and those cotton fields and the ladies of the south as slave ... Recently rosgamos their hair with racism in Spain and the USA are there for centuries with a visceral racist and demeaning to black people, old slaves imported from Africa. Until four days ago blacks did not comparían utilities with whites, etc etc etc

In the history of humankind is hard to find a country with the most hypocritical foreign policy and daughter of the gp They have removed and Latin American governments by helping to create the third world than anyone else; plundering resources of countries, and so on. Supporting dictators like Pinochet, but defending freedoms and alleged to be standard bearers of democracy. Not to speak of big business called "industry of war", to which the United States is engaged for decades throughout the world. Iraq is just another example of how this country operates and its perversity.

A country organized in a few decades to consume all natural resources, polluting and exterminating wildlife around the globe ... From the Amazon to where we look, there's always interest amaricanos disregard the nature and destroying the environment ... To certainly be the country more reluctant to change this kind of living suicide in which we live and to show skeptical and doubt and deny climate change, etc etc etc demonic Following the motto "Let dough, make money at the expense of what is and we take care after" ...

A country rotten with a ... corruptísimo political system with two policy options: the reactionary right wing of Obama or McCain ultrareaccionaria of ...

In the end, a country that I can only wish him the worst, and to burn in the fire of greed that they have created and for which they have been doing so much evil around the world for centuries ...

BURN DEM ALL!

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# 12, Saspiki

September 15, 2008, at 9:45.

Carlos Lopez

Debieras ways to filter the pub, some things like spend 2000 and collected 140 per month, as it did not stick in this forum. I understand that it is a matter for private mail and I delete.
Greetings,

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# 13, Bea.

September 15, 2008, at 9:54.

Thanks Carlos,
I knew that was the castilla 737.
This box was introduced in 2007 to income than those who buy our house usual prior to 2006 we may continue to benefit from the relief vigenete at the time of purchase. Acquired right is called.
But do not understand the relationship with the aviation industry.

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# 14, Jorge76

September 15, 2008, at 9:55.

# 5, PTT

There is already a page of Google in black.

http://es.blackle.com/

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# 15, Fran Diaz

September 15, 2008, at 9:55.

Carlos:
The first and simplest solution to raise, that the reinvestment, it is impossible. Simply because it reinvested in due course ... in areas outside of price. They have a hard drive.
And as to what of the millions of euros to soil:
EUR 300 million for land, I will not stand.
Greetings!

, "That our beloved promoters that are demanding aid to the government, reinvesting (via a capital increase) the extraordinary profits that were in recent years to increase the equity of their companies and reduce the sector's debt ratios, but it gives me that is going to be no.

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# 16, VICTOR

September 15, 2008, at 9:58.

Good days:

After so many financial institutions to the brink of the abyss, I can think of a question, what would happen if our mortgage with our bank bankruptcy?

I have made my spreadsheet but I assume that the results begin to see the next year.

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# 17, danika

September 15, 2008, at 9:59.

Yesterday saw a series about Fidel Castro, sought to make a revolution that rid the Cuban people that he was illiterate by 40% and whose resources belonged to the united states at 80% of the imperialist yoke.
50 years after the United States and throughout the West is forced to intervene and nationalize private companies to salvage the economy and I wonder where is the mistake. It seems clear that this could have been avoided and that no government, no economist has been able to stop it or predict.
The comparison with the planes seems wise to me, as there is a basic difference is that if the plane is based on some parameters and even fly passengers to believe that it will not do it. With the economy passengers if the plane lost confidence falls.

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# 18, Dontknow

September 15, 2008, at 10:00.

I have a question ... when a bank failure, the central bank of the country assures you a minimum of money that you were there and what returns. But what if you have a mortgage? The need to repay any central bank? Only a part? You do not have to return? (bueno.. latter option would be more a dream than a reality surely ...)

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# 19, Dontknow

September 15, 2008, at 10:01.

jeje .. Victor, we have the same doubts :)
Oh, and today I start with the spreadsheet I

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# 20, Luisoff

September 15, 2008, at 10:02.

Many are critical moments of the flight, including takeoffs and landings, as many physicists are the calculations being made by engineers to minimize the risks in these delicate moments.

As well as an amateur in this world of aviation, I am glad to see that we share hobbies, is that many security measures and by many calculations that made it really dangerous are those not currently provided or discard it and do not believe at the time, clinging our infallible mathematical formulas and our boat extra glue for the airplane.

And in those moments that we have no entrusted to the hands of our pilot.

That may walk from our hands? He shook his knees when it comes to making decisions?

Only a wise decision to save our model to become chipped. Hopefully not having to go click the lighting, which is just where the planes in many fields of airplane, following unforeseen and wrong decisions.

Greetings and good landing!

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# 21, Luisf

September 15, 2008, at 10:03.

Fran:

I think the shots were not going by there.

The operation of these geniecillos of finanazas is:
Commit to 100, to sell 400. 400% profit. Of that amount, I safe all I can where nobody can get hand (especially the Treasury), and then reinvested in land, or whatever, a small portion of those benefits.

To see if you think that even if the property goes into bankruptcy, some of which will be addressed with empty pockets. We can pull this capital to revive its business, but it is clear that they are not going to do. And have used them for what they wanted, and in any case, when the storm passes, will appear again ... with a new company, free of dust and straw. Asi has always been and will remain so. And while our rulers, and one other sign, look the other way, that interests them.

The problem is for workers who stay on the street, or for people who advance money to his apartment, and now keeps' em coming.

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# 22, illus

September 15, 2008, at 10:05.

Do not do illusions, the mortgage or not, we will remove your father ...

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# 23, sergio

September 15, 2008, at 10:05.

Congratulations on the post Oriol, the best that I have read

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# 24, bloval

September 15, 2008, at 10:10.

As for the article itself, sorry but the metaphor to show that in the mid-point is the virtue seems to me scrawny and the solutions:
Larger capital ¿? If you were Fernando Martin and saw that your company enters loss risk to save your money in something that you think has no future? No, it is very sad but 99% of all of us would have done what he quen, declare bankruptcy Martins-Fadesa, hide paste and declared insolvent and pray that no criminal charges against him.
As for the banks condone debt, if they are the first to suffer losses as well as the suspensions of payments as assume the assets are actually unpaid debt cancellations.
Asked what they are doing the Andalusian boxes with everything that has been around the issue of the case Malaya: promotions half done, water parks, industrial warehouses full of toilets ... I have a friend in one of those boxes and do not know what to do with all that immobilized. And now comes out that the debtors of Colonial condone part of the debt for the company to continue to exist ... but it will be a new patch.

Had entered enthusiastically into this website but since then the article today I feel very weak.

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# 25, faliqui

September 15, 2008, at 10:11.

I felt brilliant comparison between the wing loading and the volume of business, especially being the model airplane enthusiast.

Excel's just thank the other day that I have to point according to my needs and I used to get an idea of what point I must not exceed.

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# 26, SirJuan

September 15, 2008, at 10:13.

Hello everybody!

Some time ago we do not do any so today I propose that after the weekend moved, today promises ...

Euribor baton 15/09
SirJuan 5353

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# 27, new

September 15, 2008, at 10:14.

I recently read from and there is really very interesting, I would like someone to answer me a question, whether the ECB will not raise rates for now? Why does not the Euribor low?.

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# 28, oreidubic

September 15, 2008, at 10:18.

Interesting metaphor financial burden with the wing loading ... after 12 years of working with companies familiar disitntas perceptions of bank risk, it turns out that when the speed of the economy slows down (over time) of us who work in companies without names flamboyant, without Large investments but if major risks now ... we are envied. because the record has almost always award ...

For 5 or 6 years I have had to eat investments in Bulgaria in real estate executives from friends, buying hotels (ruinous to economists' walk) from powerful corporations (potent with debts of 2-3.000 million), purchases String cash & carry a high leverage on the part of ex-heads of mine (I tried to illiterate and anachronistic), travel and fantastic dolce farniente from pilots companies Charter ...

And now I hear or not running the air .. weird, weird .... and banks (those with money, which are few) seinte were attracted by companies in which the circulating funds the circulating that the owner responds with his patrimionio, who won growths logical, and strictly fulfills that "a cobbler your shoes "...

I agree that I jumped quite a few classes to study economic, but I see that there are many business leaders who jumped classes are not bad but took notes .... not to mention an entire generation of ESADE and Ieses that have a rolling Christ of noses, assuming responsibilities early on and now it's time to review the final results that are missing the ongoing assessment ... ..

Time of opportunity for those who have duties ...

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# 29, Kurbein

September 15, 2008, at 10:20.

If your bank bankruptcy, the mortgage you receive any other bank creditor in payment of debt. That is, only changes hands.

And a small important detail: in the Scriptures is usually a clause that says something like:
"Commission of subrogation:
- At the request of the borrower: 0%
- At the request of the creditor: 1% "

In the event of bankruptcy, the bank that receives your mortgage payment on the debt that you can earn commission. For half a mortgage of 150,000 €, 1500 € you are playing because I put worth.

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# 30, Carlos Lopez

September 15, 2008, at 10:21.

# 25, new
I recommend that you read this article:
http://www.euribor.com.es/que-es-el-euribor/

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# 31, Larry Lurex

September 15, 2008, at 10:23.

The metaphor of today is very, very successful

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# 32, Mano H20

September 15, 2008, at 10:26.

# 21, Luisf

Solo un pequeño matiz: si compro a 100 y vendo a 400 el porcentaje de beneficio es el 300% ¿no?

Lo digo porque algún genio financiero decía aquello de: compro a dos y lo vendo a cuatro y con ese 2% de beneficio…..

Salu2

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# 33 , Vicente

15 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 10:37.

A mí lo de Lehman me inquieta muchísimo. Si nadie la ha querido salvar (con la de reuniones que habrá habido este fin de semana en la Reserva Federal) es porque tenía tantos muertos en el armario, que el que lo cogiera se iba detrás. Y tened en cuenta que Lehman negociaba con otros… que ahora se encuentran con que quien estaba al otro lado ya no está… Wall Street está en la UVI

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# 34 , josellweb

15 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 10:39.

Viendo hoy el precio del WT me pregunto si nuestro amado gobierno seguirá comprando a Hugo Chavez los 10.000 barriles de petróleo a precio ventajoso de 100 $.

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# 35 , www.aedru.org

15 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 10:41.

Precisamente, lo que está ocurriendo es que los sistemas financieros de los paises “PEG” no son los responsables de esta CRISIS FINANCIERA, al contrario, son afectados por los errores de otros

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# 36 , ruina españa solbes zp

15 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 10:44.

nos dara un susto hoy el euribor, o por el contrario se relajara al haber un apestado menos en el mundo de las subprime???

donde puedo encontrar la tabla de excel???

gracias de antemano.

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# 37 , Carlos Lopez

15 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 10:50.

El Banco Central Europeo (BCE) anunció hoy una operación de inyección de liquidez extraordinaria para los bancos comerciales de la zona del euro a un tipo de interés mínimo del 4,25 por ciento.

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# 38 , eltonto

15 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 10:50.

Las financieras y empresas grandes quebrarán porque sus dueños ya han guardado sus ganancias en paraísos fiscales, y legalmente ningún gobierno (sus empleados) va a impulsar nada contra ellos.

Zapatero y Solbes (dos típicos súbditos españoles cagones) irán contra los más débiles.

Lo de entregar el piso destrozado al banco lo estoy pensando seriamente.

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# 39 , Maño H20

15 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 10:50.

A las 10,45 h. el Ibex palma un 3,41% (11.022,70 puntos)

¡¡¡Buff!!!

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# 40 , Toni

15 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 10:51.

hola a todos, sobre la quiebra de Lehman Brothers, me gustaría saber el tamaño que tiene en conparación con algún banco español, es decir, puede ser diez veces mayor que un BBVA o que un Santander??? Gracias

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# 41 , ruina españa solbes zp

15 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 10:55.

ha llegado a estar por debajo de los 11.000 al principio de la sesion, veremos donde acba.

en europa los grandes bancos estan siendo castigados, algunios incluso con dos digitos (+10%)

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# 42 , ruina españa solbes zp

15 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 10:57.

Índice Anterior Último Dif. (%) Máximo Mínimo
IBEX-35 11.412,00 11.029,10 -3,36 11.160,10 10.986,10

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# 43 , ruina españa solbes zp

15 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 10:58.

donde puedo encontrar la tabla de excel???

gracias de antemano.

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# 44 , eltonto

15 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 10:58.

¿Todavía creemos que las grandes empresas quiebran por ineptitud?
¿Que se han equivocado absorbiendo otras empresas con créditos?
¿Que los bancos les prestaron sin saber de su insolvencia?
¿Que Bush es idiota?
¿Que ZP está preocupado?

Repito: Veamos cuántos empresarios y financistas están preocupados. NINGUNO.

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# 45 , ruina españa solbes zp

15 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 10:59.

El castigo bursátil a los bancos europeos, una vez confirmada la quiebra de Lehman Brothers, alcanza los dobles dígitos en las cotizaciones de valores como la británica HBOS y la irlandesa Anglo Irish Bank. En los franceses Natixis, Crédit Agricole y Société Générale superan el 8%, al igual que en Royal Bank of Scotland.

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# 46 , Carlos Lopez

15 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 11:03.

# 40 , Toni
Lehman es algo más pequeño que el Santander y el BBVA, hay que tener en cuenta que estos dos bancos (pese a lo que pensamos de los españoles) son de los más grandes del mundo.
Santander, está por activos entre las 20 mayores empresas del mundo

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# 47 , ruina españa solbes zp

15 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 11:05.

Comentario de Clopez:

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Pues esperando a que alguien comente si le funcionó o no la tabla Excel que os propuse la semana pasada, os deseo un buen día y un feliz vuelo.
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yo pregunto, a nadie le ha funcionado??? no ha tenido exito???
espero alguien me pase el enlace, gracias.

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# 48 , faliqui

15 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 11:06.

Para todos los que estais buscando la tabla Excel, era simplemente una captura de pantalla de una propuesta.
Aunque realmente era muy intuitiva y no cuesta ningún trabajo realizar una propia desde esa captura.

Saludos

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# 49 , ruina españa solbes zp

15 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 11:07.

otra vez cerca de la barrera de los 11.000

IBEX-35 11.412,00 11.006,30 -3,56 11.160,10 10.986,10

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# 50 , eltonto

15 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 11:08.

Para mí toda empresa que haya crecido con créditos y que haya quebrado o quiebre de ahora en adelante está dirigida por LADRONES.

Lo siento, hoy estoy bastante calentito.

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