Weekly Summary

Every Friday we're going to have a comprehensive weekly summary provided by droblo, with the following points:

Indexes .- (Thursday to Thursday) Last Friday, both China and Brazil set the minimum annual and China repeated on Monday, Tuesday and Thursday and Brazil on Tuesday and Wednesday. We can see in the last column how close it is the Ibex its minimum (and it recovered to close, came to be 48 points):

Close 28/12/07 Indexes Sem. Ant.

Last.
wk.
Close Yesterday Var.
Annual
Min.
2008
Max.
2008
Dif
min-act
Dif
High-act
13,365 DOW 11,187

11,433

2.20

-14.46

10,829

13,279

5.58

-13.90

1478 SP 1236

1249

1.05

-15.49

1200

147

4.08

-15.09

2674 NAS 2259

2258

-0.04

-15.56

2155

2661

4.78

-15.14

63,644 BRAZ 51,602

50,898

-1.36

-20.03

47,606

72,766

6.92

-30.05

4405 € STOK50 3274

3222

-1.59

-26.86

3089

4411

4.31

-26.96

6476 FTSE 5362

5318

-0.82

-17.88

5071

6534

4.87

-18.61

8067 DAX 6245

6178

-1.07

-23.42

6006

8100

2.86

-23.73

15,182 IBEX 11,400

11,136

-2.32

-26.65

10,932

15,186

1.87

-26.67

15,307 NIKKEI 12,557

12,102

-3.62

-20.94

11,691

15,156

3.52

-20.15

5261 SHANGHAI 2277

2078

-8.74

-60.50

2070

5522

0.39

-62.37

Some views.

On the news of the week, a couple of very revealing articles:

On Tuesday the collapse of Lehman Brothers that actually changed the stock symbol of the week:

Some data.

The macro data of the week. The macro data of the week was the ominous figure of U.S. jobs and here we can see why:

And if what we see in the longer term:


Summary of the week:

After the disastrous meeting last Thursday, Friday Asia with China dropped for the third consecutive day marking annual minimum and Europe following the same path despite a minimum of 11 months of € against $. To make matters worse, the influential Nokia lowered forecasts and suffered heavy losses and the U.S. employment data was carrying a minimum lousy day dropping more than 2% Europe and the USA futures slightly more than 1%. There was a rebound in the first few minutes of meeting USA but before the closure was returned to Europe to see minimal (in the environment of -3%) becoming clear the fear of investors in another day of tough descents. USA, which fell just over 1% at closing time, and had marked the European minimum of around -1.5% - went to maximum levels of the day within minutes thanks to rumors of new buyers from Lehman Brothers and a crude close to $ 105 a barrel, it caused a short closure of USA and finally closed in the environment of +0.50%.

However, the MSCI World Index (Morgan Stanley index of world stock markets) closed its worst week since 2002, something logical because during the big falls in stock markets this year "Western", the emerging behaved better but last week the crash was global. And the weekend brought a big surprise: the nationalization of FNM and FRE and confirmation, despite this, the highest rating from Standard and Poor's sovereign debt USA.

The profound and rapid falls in the previous week that kept the indices technically oversold provoked this news was valued at some exaggeration: the markets opened with strong rises on Monday, underscoring the rise of more than 3% in Japan (and on the contrary the fourth consecutive annual minimum Chinese) around similar levels and at the opening of Europe and almost double the financial sector. These gains were extended during the morning, the Ibex almost came to almost +5% - would be strengthened as the dollar touched annual peak-picking with his foot changed to analysts who expected a weakening of fact as had happened in the Asian-sitting ignoring the deteriorating finances and making USA prevail at the least cost of risk premiums. However, USA marked its highest in the opening (+2.5% on SP500) and was losing bellows, highlighting the weakness of the technology sector. Europe endured quite well and, while far from peak was closed, the increases were very significant (from the Dax +2.22% +3.92% of the FTSE). USA marked its minimum after closing in Europe but a rally in the last minute ended up going up the Dow and the SP above 2% in the day. Finally highlight of the "bullish Monday" the ruin of the shareholders of FNM and FRE downs that closed with close to 90% on the day.

On Tuesday, the $ still climbing positions and the raw morning in the vicinity of the 105 $ / barrel and yet Japan fell almost 2% and China again during the session marking the fifth consecutive day-by-minimum of 21 months. This led Europe to circumvent the proper closure USA and apathetic dawn and took quite minutes to be decided one way was that, with the rise of future USA, and the slight positive, with the USA after disembarking from the spot, the slight negative. In any case USA seemed to demonstrate strength and rebounded despite another real estate data (the "pending home index") and a disastrous $ weakest when suddenly the realization by the market of the need to increase capital by Lehman Brothers after the rejection of South Korean bank to be rumoreaba could come with a strong package shareholding in the state, with strength weighed on the market and will spoil the closures in Europe although only the Ibex took a drop (-1.77%) important. As for USA imported a little crude to $ 102 that day when the shares of LEH came down to 45%, and half meeting was quoted below the Friday close of canceling all the bullish effect of the nationalization of FNM and FRE. Another new section to the bottom of the commodities led to annual minimum to Brazil and prevented USA functioned in the typical "safe securities" with what the SP500 fell nearly 3.5% (the worst day since February 2007).

On Wednesday morning with two pieces of news, good and bad: bad was that OPEC reduced production in 520 thousand barrels per day although we must qualify that this is the extra amount in full ascent decided to put into circulation and Saudi Arabia not be lifted until November, that's why I did not influence too much on the price of crude. And the good news is that Lehman had finally made an official statement reassuring the markets by announcing that before the opening performance and presented an American plan for viability. This served to a rebound of future U.S. and a rising minimum-but-rising of the Chinese stock market, did not prevent the negative moderate in Japan but favored a flat opening in Europe seemed unthinkable that the night before. And in fact, seemed so unlikely to be entered into losses in a few minutes to be moderate on the Ibex-except where the bad day of two "heavyweights" such as Iberdrola and SAN is much-noticed because all morning had hopes of a quick solution to the crisis of Lehman. And Lehman announced it expected: a huge loss and a plan to sell assets and cut costs that includes layoffs and reduced dividend. I do not know if the market was expecting a miracle (before the announcement Lehman rose nearly 30% in Europe) but the fact is that it took quite bad ... but only for a few minutes, gradually returned to Europe and USA moderate losses opened in positive. Lehman opened up the 17% and before the first 10 minutes of the meeting was going negative, returning to positive after the minimum passing mark again +10% at 40 minutes of sitting and cutting a quarter that number 5 minutes later ... All of this volatility resulted in increases in the indices USA but not in excess of 1% and which are volatilized when Lehman opted by the clearly negative. Europe closed with falls of less than 1% on average (the "ugly duckling" was the Ibex with a -1.49%) and the U.S., and Lehman, after closing positive and returned to Europe with the help of a bullish rally of $ ( it certainly led to a minimum annual gold) managed to set new maximum levels above 1% but could not overcome the closing level last Friday and returned sales, again very aggressive in Lehman. The indexes closed with modest positive, but the descent of some financial securities (-7% Lehman, Washington Mutual -30%) do not bode well.

In fact, Thursday awoke very red in Asia (with the new minimum of 21 months in China which already reaches 60% of profitability in the year and the MSCI index of emerging stock markets in minimum of 23 months) while the losses were in Europe mild in opening due to new low against the annual € $ (in theory a cheaper euro helps European exporters are the ones that have more weight in the indexes), even at midday positive but the losses were already higher than 1% under the pretext of some negative statements from the Bank of England on the evolution of the economy. The bad data and weekly unemployment of the U.S. trade deficit were overshadowed by rumors of bankruptcy of Lehman rose for falls in the indices that, perhaps because of the proximity of the annual minimum and has not been decided by decreases strongest since just -1.5% exceeded even when the spot opened down 1.5% USA rates and 40% Lehman. In addition, a crude whose future arrived to play helped bounce from 100.20 minimum and Europe was able to close down half of "only" 0.50%. Following the closure, went to the USA positive amid rumors about a possible buyer of Lehman, fell again, it was doubtful all afternoon and there was a last minute rally thanks to rumors that placed the BOA buying Lehman (who nonetheless fell -- 42%), the banking sector ended up going up and the Dow Jones and the SP did over 1%. The veracity of this and any conditions of the transaction will determine the future movements in the very short term.

Personal comment.

When I wondered on Monday regarding the effect would last bullish for the nationalization of FRE and FNM (http://www.serenitymarkets.com/ficha_comentario.asp?sec=9&id=21403) did not think it would last just 1 single meeting in USA. And that he had a great reason for optimism in the financial system: half the world-including not only private banks, including central bank-backed debt held by these two mortgage agencies as a result of their semi were considered virtually invulnerable. The decision by the U.S. government to secure its own rating (Triple A, the maximum) such debts gave them the reason and automatically became a very doubtful debt in an insurance payment. Why so little lasting effect of this benign news? Besides all the problems that we know already for months, this news means, in my opinion, which has been burned the last cartridge.

U.S. rates fell, not rose despite a dramatic upturn in inflation, has opened windows and extended to provide emergency liquidity to the financial sector, has coordinated auctions of liquidity with other central banks ... even put obstacles to the SEC to sell bank shares ... Financed the purchase of Bear Stearns by JP Morgan and have absorbed the debts of several regional banks that have gone bankrupt. Now just spend money that they do not take this nationalization, and remember that the U.S. deficit is impressive. It should be borne in mind that credo default swaps notes treasure to 10 years in the U.S. (that is, what it costs to secure a bond portfolio to 10 years issued by the U.S. Treasury) this week touched its record high of more expensive premium This implies a doubt about the safety of the issuer. So, as they began to assess the possibility of bankruptcy for a "big" as Lehman Brothers and the silence of the authorities think the market realized that they could no longer expect further interventions to save more banks. True or not that scenario, of course afraid that the world's largest economy is backed by assets doubtful that a free economy would have a value close to negative. Like I say this, as I happened to FRE and FNM, it is also true that any news favorable to the financial sector could provoke another important rebound ...

To illustrate the economic problems Americans here we see an independent projection (Bud Conrad, a famous American investor and analyst) of the U.S. government deficit if things continue as they are:

And that can be corroborated in the present figure of current account deficit, the largest in history and the world:

In conclusion, very difficult market short with a bearish trend does not seem that overwhelming this time may change the maturity of futures and options are next week: I remain confident that the more extreme pessimism that reflect surveys of market sentiment may result in a movement that might otherwise be of great violence or that the drop in gold and commodity transfer some liquidity to the bag. But it also frightens me how close we are to annual minimum, a possible return to the low $ and, above all, the credit crisis: this week has been Lehman but do not forget to Washington Mutual, Ambac, Mbia, Wachovia ... until Merry lynched is dangerous ground and then only in the USA: the losses are still emerging and with a banking business to the bottom will be very difficult to fill in a short time.

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# 1, Bhaal

September 12, 2008, at 9:33.

A text thicker than the cafe of a cowboy, I think you've spent Carlos!

Saludetes and urge that you know very well done!

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# 2, King Quinito

September 12, 2008, at 9:37.

Go brick, with forgiveness. I am afraid I have no intellectual baggage enough to make a comment line.

Go cold that does not today?

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# 3, Carlos Lopez

September 12, 2008, at 9:37.

The text is too long, but worth a draw 15 minutes over the weekend to find out everything that has happened during the week and understand better what is happening.

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# 4, MY DEAR IRELAND

September 12, 2008, at 9:38.

Very unlike Bhaal, I think that is what Droblo has currado a lot. There are a lot of data to analyze in this report.
I doubt if the data is correct in the first column refers to IBEX as a brand value of 15,182

Is that the closing of datum from Thursday? I think not.

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# 5, TAHartl

September 12, 2008, at 9:39.

Hello everybody.

Dedicated to a patient ANDALUZ 104 years old, who was granted the 'help' for no other plausible and commendable act by the government of the Kingdom of Spain in the previous Parliament, Law Unit, which began to charge in 2 YEARS .

ZP in a pure state: "love the art of captive vote" and / or the great dictator in the development of its Master in Economics in times of adverse cycles.

The great preacher of the doctrine of socialism Spanish illustrates once again its purest in the most trying times for the national economy, which is about to enter into recession. Last Wednesday, Mr Zapatero had a great opportunity to correct the false climbing a mountain, The Country of Four and SER ZP with CNN +. See manual of the climber in the White Paper of Cucumber Blanco. But it seems that the fresh air of the mountains has failed to make the neurons of Mr Zapatero thought and the altitude has been entrenched in a position for the entire legislature. Such a waste of energy could be used for the talk and crystal clear, however, has been dedicated to the 'art of captivating votes' with the verb and two interventionist measures in the market of the brick with aid to the promoters. Where I say now say diego. Did not had to readjust the housing market alone?. Again shows the Sophist charlatan who comes to such an extent of weakness in economic policies and confidence in the management of the Kingdom of Spain.

The little credit that he has been thrown overboard, Mr captain of the boat called the Kingdom of Spain. The Spaniards are tired of so much verbiage absurd, so much misrepresentation (another branch to confuse the sheep as pointing blame directly to the U.S. and the international situation and follow the path marked), diversion of attention (bombs briefing in moments timely to distract the masses and the gallery), handling and makeup, political marketing, advertising and propaganda, cynicism, etc.. I request that you do not solve the economic problem or to perform magic, but having the courage to take the helm and energizing the bases of a new economic model with appropriate economic measures to resign or otherwise able to do so in his place. The only thing that is getting, instead of that water back to its bed, is to consolidate the economic structure of the 80s.

NM: Rule of busy information.

"LINCOS by sheep."

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# 6, Copero

September 12, 2008, at 9:39.

Droblo Congratulations, you've Curran. I slowly digested the weekend to enjoy a short sips.

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# 7, Flipper

September 12, 2008, at 9:39.

Good, because without time to write, I go for travel in 2 minutes and took me to the article printed today to read it as soon as it half an hour free.

I can only say, before leaving, that this site is already becoming a landmark, even if it was serious now, I think the gamble of head count of employees is the most successful.

"ON THE WEB: With regard to visits and according to data from Nielsen (Data in January 2008), we talk about the financial blog with more visits and 13 websites in terms of financial information (rather than the channel of finance for MSN), with 149,000 unique users a month who read 1,293,000 pages. "

With this data, and what they represent, the bet by updating and investing in improvements and expansions is the only option to remain increasingly large and reach more people. And without ever losing (PLEASE) the factor of "being understandable by everyone."

A further case, this has increasingly portrayed.

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# 8, Jorge

September 12, 2008, at 9:40.

Although not identify whether the article as "abstract", thanks to Droblo for work.

I would like to stress that, after having sold around the world that the U.S. capeando were very well the crisis is not so clear after seeing any of the information before us, right?

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# 9, TAHartl

September 12, 2008, at 9:41.

Hello everybody.

Dedicated to all those who struggle for life, peace, a just and dignified life, and especially women who choose despite the circumstances being valiant and give birth, whatever the fate of the newborn .

NO to the death penalty for any human:

Neither the war nor by terrorism, nor by ABORTION, or redundant by the death penalty for a trial of another human ...

YES to life and death by their very nature.

I wonder: Am I a hypocrite?. Does the Republic of France is hypocritical, considering citizen to a human since the inception of his life?.

Again socialism in front of the Spanish love of art captivate votes with the discussion of the hypothetical attainder is a woman who, in relation to ABORTION, and 'forget' everything else. That is, with the cost socialized cheaper to women and their rights, rewards the economy and entrepreneurs of private clinics. If yes, the same as a fanfare touting public health. However, there is another way of socializing with women and their rights, but of course are very expensive and they run with the times:

- Mainly a good education and culture for everything.
- Programs to help unwanted pregnancies.
- Programs for receipt of newborns and adoption of Spanish families.
- Programs of social assistance to pregnant women with low income.
- Programs of social assistance to women with unwanted pregnancies.
- Etc.

The Socialists show SOCIALIST again what they are.

The same is true of the Oddisey, the Ministry of Culture and the treasure of the Spanish empire. In this case the treasure is women with their votes not with their children, 'cazatesoros' of the PSOE and the Ministry of Social Affairs.

MISSION: To reduce costs in the Ministry of Culture and the Ministry of Social Affairs to increase revenue in the Ministry of Labor for the votes of the captives and PER SEASON. This is the harsh and cruel reality ...

And worst of all, they used a woman as BUFON government of the Kingdom of Spain. Of course I am referring to the Minister for Equality.

"LINCOS by sheep."

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# 10, Petition

September 12, 2008, at 9:44.

# 142, JavierML
September 12, 2008, at 3:21.

# 139 questions,

Neither of coña. Nothing to do.

What it has done in Venezuela Hugo is this: There are a number of businesses that are making a profit, because I want to participate in those benefits. I have money to buy it, because the purchase. Is inspired by what he did Evo Morales is not that long ago, nationalize the business of living esquilmar assets of the country.

What Fanny and Fredy is different. Having granted for years too dangerous a percentage of subprime mortgages, in turn securitized and sold to banks around the world, have been suddenly with the rope around his neck. If the government leaves falling, rolled over in his downfall at all those banks, smaller than themselves, who purchased these packages securitization. Have opted for the least harmful. For once I find a good solution, and do not forget that the bank where you have your savings could be one of the hardest hit if your friend Bush, the communist, would have allowed the collapse of the house of cards.

Please, if any consideráis of interest published this post on Friday morning, I will not have internet until at least mid-afternoon.

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# 11, Colomer

September 12, 2008, at 9:49.

The report comes out a week. Congratulations

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# 12, Carlos Lopez

September 12, 2008, at 9:51.

# 4, MY DEAR IRELAND
You're right, I made a mistake in the cutandpaste, is already fixed the title of the column.

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# 13, Pep M.

September 12, 2008, at 9:53.

that low gasoline?

Today in Gandia, CAMPSA has gone up 0.013 euros. He was in 1203 €, I guess I will not get much for the CPI.

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# 14, Juanan

September 12, 2008, at 9:57.

An article genial, very good summary. Many expect it to last Friday. THANKS

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# 15, Copero

September 12, 2008, at 9:59.

We provide some data on abortion:

From the 4 th week of gestation gynecological (2nd week after conception), is the fold of the neural tube is formed and what will be the brain and nervous system. From here, the fetus begins to feel and think.

During the week 24th gynecological (22nd from pregnancy) a fetus may be totally viable outside the mother. Previously, the mother only serves to provide nutrients and oxygen (as it is not fully developed respiratory system.

Since we are very sensitive to the issue of abortion, I am going to count as is done:

Normally, a solution is injected saline solution into the uterus of the mother, with high saline concentration. As you know, the salt to dissociate itself generates heat (it is a reaction exoenergética), which literally burned fetal death and terrible suffering.

It is curious that advocates the elimination of the death penalty, which is normally done with lethal injection in developed countries, or with a shot in the head if they are not, because they advocate is a cruel method of killing a human being And not consider the cruel killing one person burning it little by little (it is a process very similar to that of curing hams).

It is curious that advocates the elimination of the death penalty argue for the irreversibility of the process before a possible acquittal of the prisoner, and not advocate the irreversibility of the process of a creature that has not had time to cause any evil.

But of course, under current law, the newborn has no rights until you spend 24 hours of birth and can join in the civil register, and thus, the murder is called abortion, the butchers are called medical abortion, and mothers who toleras ... they have no forgiveness.

A cordial greeting of a hypocritical and cynical.

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# 16, Deimos Fenix

September 12, 2008, at 10:00.

Congratulations Droblos by the piece of analysis that you've Curran.
Although it appears to me as I lie entirely reviewed and it has substance to release two days of economic trickle, and especially macro.
To summarize, even more: The government of the U.S. Coast Guard seems to carry a lifejacket at all drowned in their own greed. FNM, FRD, SB, and now LEM. Will he EDF both have the stamina for so many deaths?
In Europe, the ECB is still in its thirteen containing inflation. And it is not going to give his arm a twist unless it's making any of these situations:
1 The "engine" of Europe, Germany, France and to a lesser extent Italy and Benelux into recession "robust"
2 That is, in one of the countries in the EMU threats of a estaflación (¿this blessed? Country is a step of this)
3 More unlikely, we want to reach, and finally to break the system, a process of deflation.
In Spain, this blessed ¿? country, get together with hunger desire to eat. The excessive dependence of GDP in the construction, our endemic need for imported oil and energy in general, an aberrant obfuscation to have, or pretend to have and the lack of initiative "serious" (ironic mode off) of the ruling government.
While looking askance at the "emerging markets". China is paying the duck (laqueado) by dismantling and stop production during the Olympics. For its part Russia is still immersed in the Caucasus and Mr Palin giving "war"
In the most homemade, the boxes Basque start the wave of mergers.
How far? Time will tell, for "analistos" that can predict who is going to be wrong.

Neither the Macarena or the Mareueta, or Madonna and San Pedro Martir.

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# 17, Purification

September 12, 2008, at 10:01.

# 15, Copero

Do not you have probably the wrong forum? I do not think that is the appropriate place to debate abortion.

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# 18, Majes

September 12, 2008, at 10:02.

Una vez más me dejas gratamente sorprendia con tu información financiera, espero que no dejes de escribir éstos artículos, a mí personalmente me has hecho engancharme a ésta página. Sigue así.

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# 19 , retranchetillo

12 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 10:02.

Me he leido todo el articulo y… TODOS
Dios te salve Maria, llena eres de gracia
el señor es contigo…

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# 20 , ClusterT

12 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 10:04.

En dos palabras … “IM” “PRESIONANTE”.

Mis más sinceras felicitaciones a Droblo …

Salu2

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# 21 , RFM

12 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 10:04.

Hola buenos días a tod@s. Me quedo en paro próximamente y quería preguntar si algun@ sabe cuánto cobraré exactamente de paro si he cotizado por base máxima y con un hijo a cargo (creo que son unos 900 € pero no estoy segur@) También quería preguntar si algun@ sabe qué pasa cuando la empresa entra en suspensión de pagos, si no te pagan la nómina, ¿hay que seguir viniendo a trabajar? (lo digo porque a mí me cuesta dinerito entre gasolina, parking, etc…) ¿y quién se hace cargo de la indemnización si la empresa no puede? Gracias y un saludo. Por cierto, al@s que tenéis trabajo, aunque apeste, no es quejéis, es peor no tenerlo, yo me doy cuenta ahora que voy a perder el mío… (trabajo en el ojo del huracán, somos una promotora pequeña, promovemos pisos de buena calidad, en zonas céntricas, siempre por debajo de 200.000 €, pero nosotros tampoco podemos superar la crisis, debido a que los bancos han duplicado los intereses en las novaciones de los préstamos con respecto a 12 meses, hemos ampliado los periodos de carencia para ganar tiempo en el cual espérabamos que la gente volviera a comprar pisos -no para especular, ojo, para vivir, ya que se sigue casando e independizando gente día a día- pero no hay manera de nadie se acerque, si quiera, a la oficina comercial…)

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# 22 , Copero

12 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 10:05.

#17 Purificación

Si crees que no tiene nada que ver con la economía, pues mal vamos.

El último año se produjeros en España casi 100.000 abortos, lo que para que nos hagamos una idea, es renovar la población de Córdoba en tan sólo tres años.

Si pensamos de forma egoísta, mira lo bien que vendría un pelotazo de gente así para el sistema de pensiones, para el PIB o para el consumo.

Una sociedad que está podrida moralmente por dentro, está condenada a la desaparición.

Un cordial saludo.

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# 23 , cartillas

12 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 10:06.

Para iceman y copero

Pensaba que estaba en un foro de economía, por lo que el aborto me parece un tema fuera de lugar.

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# 24 , Deimos Fenix

12 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 10:07.

Y la puntilla para otra constructora/promotora

http://www.cotizalia.com/cache/2008/09/12/noticias_37_sacyr_vallehermoso_venta_repsol.html

Lo de Martinsa-Fadesa va a ser el patio de un colegio de monjas al lado de lo de Sacyr…

Ni la Macarena, ni la Mareueta, ni San Pedro Virgen y Mártir.

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# 25 , Copero

12 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 10:08.

# 23 , cartillas

Me remito al post 22# Copero.

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# 26 , MI IRLANDA QUERIDA

12 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 10:08.

# 15 , Copero

Aunque poco que ver con este foro, no puedo menos que darte la razón. Aunque también me da que nos van a coser a negativos.
Sinceramente creo que la defensa progre del aborto solo retrata a las personas que culminan el egoismo, la vagancia y la total comodidad. El individualismo actual….

Ya sabes, aplican aquello del “ojos que no ven… corazón que no siente”…. pero eso si: “NUNCA MAIS” “no a la pena de muerte” “defendamos la la lagartija autoctona que se va a cargar la nueva carretera ……
….pero viva el aborto y la eutanasia.

Viva la incoherencia…. diría yo.

Y detrás de ello, lo de siempre…. el NEGOCIO (de algunos, claro)

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# 27 , bloval

12 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 10:09.

A mi me ha gustado mucho este resumen, además al haber varios apartados el que no quiera leerlo todo tiene donde elegir.
Y las imágenes creo aportan una novedad interesante en la web

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# 28 , Breogan

12 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 10:09.

Madre mía vaya resumen !!. Va quedar para el fin de semana porque en horario laboral se hace complicao …

Lo de las gasolineras es para denunciarlos a consumo. hace unos días, estando el barril de petróleo sobre 120 $ pagué el gasóleo a 1,21. Ayer noche, estando el barril casi a 100 $ reposté a 1,19 !!. Ante mi queja, el empleado de la gasolinera me “tranquilizó” diciendo que hoy bajaría un céntimo.

Bueno, ahora me toca a mí irme de vacaciones. Estaré una semanita por Sevilla y Cádiz, ya nos veremos a la vuelta porque no pienso usar ningún ordenador durante toda la semana :).

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# 29 , Copero

12 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 10:11.

# 26 , MI IRLANDA QUERIDA

Los negativos es algo que hace tiempo tengo superado.

Podrán acallar el mensaje, pero no podrán cambiar la verdad.

Un cordial saludo de un hipócrita y un cínico (además de antipatriota).

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# 30 , Mayte

12 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 10:12.

A pesar de que es bastante largo para ser un resumen, esta muy bien documentado.Para todos aquellos que no entendemos muy bien la jerga financiera tenemos la posiblidad, con algo de tiempo, de comprender algo ( en mi opinion ).

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# 31 , Deimos Fenix

12 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 10:13.

Me gustaría no caer en la demagogia barata, pero si empezamos a considerar los abortos que a habido en España en el ultimo año, por que no también los muertos en las playas intentando alcanzar una oportunidad, o las personas que tienen que marcharse de España por que las condiciones laborales, sociales y las expectativas futuras no son lo que les habían prometido.
Todo está relacionado con todo, así que centrémonos un poquito más en el ámbito de la pasta gansa y de lo mal que lo pasamos cuando nos suben el precio del pan o más grave aún cuando como explica en su post #21 RFM se queda uno en paro.

Ni la Macarena, ni la Mareueta, ni San Pedro Virgen y Mártir.

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# 32 , J.

12 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 10:15.

El análisis, un 10. Es largo, pero merece la pena. Muy bueno.

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# 33 , cartillas

12 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 10:15.

Copero

Tu comentario 22 es demagogia barata,pero mira te voy a contestar:

No dices cuantos de esos abortos se han practicado porque la mujer había sido víctima de una violación, el feto tenía problemas, la mujer corría peligro o la mujer se ha quedado embarazada porque a su marido no le sale de la punta de… ponerse un condón.

Ya está bien de que no quedarsse embarazada sea una responsabilidad que en muchos casos recaiga sólo sobre la mujer, cariño te tomas la pastillita y listo.

Así que yo como mujer, ya estoy bastante harta de que los hombres se pongan a debatir qué es lo que nosotras debemos hacer y todavía falte el día que nos pregunten a nosotras.

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# 34 , Deimos Fenix

12 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 10:20.

#33 Cartillas estoy contigo.
Para que una mujer se quede embarazada (de forma lo más naturalmente posible) hacen falta DOS.
Para que una mujer no se quede embarazada también es responsabilidad de los dos, y encima se le deja a la mujer la carga de si es culpa suya, que si tenia que haber tomado “medidas”
COÑ.O. un poco menos de hipocresia.
Además los resultados de un aborto terapéutico, no solo físicos sino también psicológicos son muy duros y tardan en pasar.

Ni la Macarena, ni la Mareueta, ni San Pedro Virgen y Mártir.

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# 35 , Kurbein

12 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 10:24.

# 21 , RFM

Del sueldo mensual mientras se resuelve la liquidacion de la empresa, se hace cargo el Fondo de Garantia Salarial. Hay unas tablas y unos maximos, por lo que no esperes cobrar lo mismo.

La suspension de pagos de la empresa es una “putada” para sus trabajadores. La empresa no paga sueldos (el FOGASA no es instantaneo, tarda uno o dos meses), pero si causas baja pierdes el derecho a indemnizacion. Tampoco puedes buscar otro trabajo, porque ninguna empresa te va a contratar sin saber cuando vas a poder incorporarte al nuevo puesto (y una liquidacion de empresa no dura 15 dias).

En resumen, jodido, jodido.

Buena suerte

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# 36 , Copero

12 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 10:26.

# 33 , cartillas

Te voy a contestar:
La probabilidad matemática de una malformación en el feto es de 1 entre 1500, los abortos por violación son muyyyyyy pocos, ya que normalmente, suministran la pildora del día después, y con las técnicas quirúrgicas actuales, el que exista riesgo para la madre es bajísimo (por no decir nulas). Que me lo digas de hace 30 años (que por cierto, cuando entró la ley del aborto allá por 1985 sólo se produjeron 9 abortos, y no había los medios actuales).

Si a tu marido no le sale de la punta ponerse un condón, pues existe una respuesta clara, pues no hay polvo.

Y es al no-nacido al que no se le pregunta nada. Al padre no se le pregunta nada… Y no es cómico hablar sólo de los derechos de la madre por un embarazo, y no hablar de los derechos a vivir de un feto (que deberían prevalecer). Pero claro, los fetos no hablan, y los fetos NO VOTAN.

Es curioso que los niños tengan derecho a una educación, tengan derecho a jugar, tengan derecho a que no se les pegue, pero eso sí, no tienen derecho a nacer si otra persona que dice llamarse madre se niega.

Y para más INRI, se sienten tan orgullosas de su decisión, que pretenden que no sean incluidas en ninguna lista de abortistas.

Por cierto, y ya que te gusta tanto la economía, si alguna vez piensas en un aborto, piensa en el gasto que supone la intervención, y en el gasto que supone una vida entera de pastillas y psiquiatras (y si lo dudas, pásate por cualquier hospital y pregunta).

Por supuesto te digo todo esto sin acritud, y desde el cariño. Si he sido brusco te ruego mil perdones.

Un cordial saludo.

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# 37 , hipotecadodeporvida

12 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 10:26.

Impresionante el articulo de hoy..se me ha hecho un pelin espeso para mi corto intelecto..pero lo valoro muy positivamente.

aunque yo pense que le harias un huequecito a SOLVES, con las declaraciones de ayer..y que luego nego….
SOLVES..tiene demencia senil…ya nos hundio una vez….ahora va a por la segunda….
SOLVES DIMISION
ZP PAREDON

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# 38 , MI IRLANDA QUERIDA

12 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 10:27.

# 33 , cartillas

http://www.cotizalia.com/cache/2008/09/12/noticias_0_crisis_parados_larga_duracion_620000.html

459.013 trabajadores cobran el subsidio de paro después de haber agotado el nivel contributivo.

Pregunto yo: ¿Cuantos de esos están dispuestos realmente a trabajar en algo?

Sinceramente no me creo que en dos años no encuentren trabajo de NADA.

Igual es que les es mas cómodo (a algunos) vivir del cuento ¿no?

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# 39 , Paniagua

12 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 10:28.

Uff! voy leyendo por partes, es muy bueno, pero así a primera hora cuesta digerir. Asombroso el déficit por cuenta corriente de EEUU y muy preocupante (del español no digo nada), menos mal que le queda poco a Bush sinó seguro que invadía algún país para hacerse con sus recursos y así desviar la atención sobre su pésimo gobierno. Vaya semanita llevamos… aunque con nuestra crisis nos sobramos y bastamos, menudas medidas las de nuestro gobierno, inyectar 3.000.000€ a las promotoras. Sólo espero que haya un gran control (cosa que dudo) en que este vaya a solventar la deuda que tienen y deberían intervenir sobre los precios de los alquileres, para que éstos no sean abusivos. He visto que hay muchas promotoras que hacen alquileres con opción a compra, financiando ellas a los clientes y así no interviene el banco. Para mí es una buena solución si el precio es justo. Bueno imagino que ahora creará otro ministerio con sus susodichos parásitos. En fin vaya polvorín que tenemos… Buen fin de semana o puente para algunos privilegiados

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# 40 , Feliz día

12 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 10:29.

Vamos a ver, Copero, si a tu hija hubiera sido violada, también pensarias igual? o acaso no es una vida igual? Antes de juzgar a una persona o personas, camina primero sobre sus zapatos.

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# 41 , y esto es todo amigos

12 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 10:35.

Una preguntita sobre el tema hipotecario

¿como van ahora las hipotecas multidivisas?

nadie o casi nadie habla de ellas, yo nunca he sido partidario por el enorme riesgo que conllevan, sobretodo para un hipotecado currela sin base economica-financiera (recuedo la cantidad de gente que no saabe ni lo que es el euribor y tiene hipotecas de 40 kilos a interes variable), si eres un inversor o un economista se entiende que ya sabe donde se mete.

es solo simple curiosidad para ver si aparece un “palo” nuevo ¿se han hecho muchas, referenciadas con que moneda, etc…?

el ultimo que apague la luz
PD: estoy con mucho de los foristas ESTE NO ES SITIO PARA HABLAR DEL ABORTO y de la doble moral mejor no hablemos ¿o es que la derecha ya ha perdido la memoria sobre la Ley del divorcio (es solo uno de los multiples ejemplos)?

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# 42 , Euribor up up !!! —>> AHORRAR, POR FAVOR !!!

12 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 10:37.

*******

La cosa va a ir de guatemala a guatepeor… os aviso que en Diciembre 2008 la cosa estará para llorar.

Debéis ser previsores y que no os pille la situación por sorpresa !!!

Para eso… AHORRAR !!!

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# 43 , Nick

12 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 10:39.

El análisis está muy bien, pero ocurre que a día de hoy más que nunca y debido a los efectos de la globalización es factible especular con cualquier mercancia que se encuentre en los mercados, a unas escalas nunca vistas hasta ahora. Esto hace que enormes fondos controlados por muy pocos sean capaces de desestabilizar cualquier economía, previsión, política económica o lo que sea. En líneas generales es cierto que esto ha existido siempre, pero como ya dije ahora es a una escala insoportable.
Teniendo en cuenta este escenario, es imposible analizar nada, como mucho interpretar los hechos a toro pasado. Ahora está claro que como la burbuja del petroleo tiene un corto recorrido temporal ( en un año fijénse todo lo que ha pasado) pues están deshaciendo posiciones, el crudo baja y las economías respiran un poco (las macro claro porque en las gasolineras no baja), pero en cuanto den su próximo movimiento, quizá otra vez en el petroleo cuando vuelva a 80$ para poder reiniciar el ciclo, o quizá en otro elemento volveremos a lo mismo y es imposible analizar nada.

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# 44 , Copero

12 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 10:40.

Veamos la probabilidad de embarazo (tras una violación o una rotura de condón, o lo que quieras:

· Primero, que esté ovulando: 15 % (3 días de viabilidad del óvulo y dos del semen).
· Segundo: Probabilidad de que cuaje: 30 %.
· Tercero: Probabilidad de que no haya aborto espontáneo: 75 %.
· Cuarto: Probabilidad de que falle la píldora del día después (suministrada en centro de salud):1 %.

Probabilidad acumulada: 0,03 %.

2006: 5.600 violaciones (168 implicarían un hijo).
2006: 400.000 nacimientos (270 con malformaciones).
Riesgo para la madre muy bajo.

Abortos 93.000. Réstale los anteriores y verás cómo queda. Y los otros 92.000? Le echamos la culpa a los violadores (5.600 violaciones?).

O quizá debemos buscar otras “causas”?

Un cordial saludo.

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# 45 , Deimos Fenix

12 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 10:40.

#38 Escalofriante articulo, sobre todo
Estos parados de larga duración con mayores dificultades de inserción son los que perciben el denominado subsidio de carácter asistencial (…) La cuantía del subsidio es general en todos los casos y equivalente a 413,52 euros brutos al mes

Brutal, explícale a alguien que con eso tiene que vivir durante un mes
413.52 / 30 = 13,78€ al día.

Ni la Macarena, ni la Mareueta, ni San Pedro Virgen y Mártir.

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# 46 , Paniagua

12 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 10:41.

Sólo voy a decir una cosa, porque no creo que este sea el lugar adecuado para debatir este tema. Soy mujer y aunque NO ESTOY a favor del aborto, pienso que no se puede opinar de forma tan radical sobre un tema que nunca os va a implicar. Tenemos un problema de educación en la familia, porque con las medidas que hay no es normal que haya tantas adolescentes embarazadas, pero no es un problema sólo de las mujeres, también es de los hombres. Pero nosotras por un error de 10 minutos pagamos toda una vida y vosotros ¿qué? y ese niño que lo condenas a una vida desgraciada. No se puede juzgar sin conocer cada caso, pero si tan en contra estais el día que tengaís un machito le inculcaís que ni se le ocurra hacerlo sin condón sinó sereís tan culpables como nosotras de ese aborto.

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# 47 , pikata

12 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 10:43.

Te lo has currado…pero dejare su lectura para el fin de semana cuando haya dormido mas de 6 horas.

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# 48 , Rey Quinito

12 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 10:43.

# 21 , RFM

En cuanto al paro, el máximo es el 200% del iprem mensual vigente incrementado en un sexto, 1.206,10 brutos/mes. Cotiza IRPF y un % de las contingencias comunes que ahora no recuerdo.

Sobre la suspensión de pagos, me temo que tienes obligación de seguir acudiendo al trabajo o enfrentarte a un despido procedente. Creo que en caso de quiebra, el fondo de garantía salarial se haría cargo de parte de la nómina, pero no es ni mucho menos un cobro inmediato.

Quizá algun otro forero te pueda ampliar un poco más la información.

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# 49 , Anónimo

12 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 10:43.

UPUP ¿has creado ya la página de consejos? o ¿seguirás con el cutpaste habitual ?
Hoy es viernes, ahórralo tu, y así ya lo tienes para el mes de Diciembre

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# 50 , yo

12 de Septiembre de 2008, a las 10:46.

menos mal que era un resumen!!!

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