Hot Wheels against Hummer

General Motors was founded by businessman William Durant made just 100 years and currently has 327,000 employees, its main brands are Buick, Cadillac, Chevrolet, GMC, GM Daewoo, Holden, Hummer, Oldsmobile, Opel, Pontiac, Saab, Saturn Corporation and Vauxhall Motors. With a very interesting history, came to become the largest corporation registered in the United States in terms of their income in relation to GNP and was the first U.S. corporation to make over 1,000 million dollars a year.

Mattel was founded in 1945 by Harold Matson and Elliot Handler (hence the name "Matt-El") being one of its top selling doll Barbie (born in 1959 and with a boyfriend since 1961) and Matchbox toys and strollers Hot Wheels.

As you can see, two very different and apparently very different in size. A couple of months ago, I read the surprising news that Mattel passing General Motors in market capitalization for the first time. I mean, if you go shopping checkbook in hand, turns out cheaper to buy all the GM that the matrix of Barbie and Kent.

"Hot Wheels and Matchbox toys are low-priced commodities, and attract consumers in the United States and especially in poorer countries that can not possibly buy more expensive toys," he said yesterday in an e-mail Sean McGowan, toy analyst Needham & Co.. in New York and recommended the purchase of shares of Mattel.

While Mattel will start to go things more or less well (despite being in losses), GM is facing its centennial in his situation more difficult.

Currently, General Motors is a company short-lost nearly 10,000 million euros in the second quarter of the year and 26,299 million more over the year 2007 - weighed down by its domestic business, which for decades turned it into a colossus. The address is dumped in a tough program of internal restructuring, both from the plan costs, and from the point of view and from the organizational chart of the product range. Its market capitalization is far from what it means: Today the company is worth just U.S. $ 5633 million (3,807 million euros). Toyota, to name a few, worth 100,000 million, Volkswagen, 70,780 million, the Spanish construction company ACS, 10,128 million, Banco Sabadell, 6487 million.

As you can see, a very worrying situation for which was the largest American company.

If GM has a year and is not at all well, here we have the crisis that turns 1 and remains as strong as the first day, that's what we are told in Cotizalia: No signs of recovery a year after the financial crisis will at worst, and last long.

The financial crisis just completing their first birthday should have ended long time ago, according to forecasts that authorities and analysts have launched during that time. However, the picture is exactly the opposite. There is no sign of improvement, but the indicators suggest a further deterioration after the truce experienced some this spring. And most experts suggest that the situation will worsen still further until it is quite see the light at the end of the tunnel, which is not expected before 2010 at least.

And the truth is that the data coming out every day are not good, today for example we have the Spanish GDP grows one-tenth that between April and June, the lowest rate in 15 years intertrimestrial.

The growth intertrimestrial was two tenths below the increase recorded in the previous quarter and less than eight tenths achieved a year ago, when the Spanish economy grew by 0.9% in the rate intertrimestrial.

Therefore, given the liquidity situation we have, it is best to look for money within the sea: Soros. Html "> Spain takes the helm and decides to plant ahead of the 'cazatesoros'.

"Thanks to our pluricentenaria imperial history, the Spanish heritage is perhaps the largest in the world," explained elEconomista sources from the Ministry of Culture.

That is, folks. Colon us out of the crisis.

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# 1, a little crude

August 27, 2008, at 9:20.

So there is no sign of improvement, the patient is bad economics. Because nothing will have to invent ways to increase or at least improve the family income, for which as we all stop buying the liam still more.

Good day

+10

# 2 For the alarmists and the 6%

August 27, 2008, at 9:25.

Relajaos. That scenario is highly unlikely that even if you do deseaseis

http://www.invertia.com/noticias/noticia.asp?subclasid=&clasid=&idNoticia=2008396

+11

# 3, a little crude

August 27, 2008, at 9:30.

I understand the negative then what we should do is stop spending as much as possible. Well, when businesses shut down for not serving and we are on the dole, entonceis we complain all.

# 4, santiago

August 27, 2008, at 9:35.

Apart from the removal of subsidies for domestic consumption of oil in Asian economies will further slow down global growth.

I do not want to do this but be warned:

! Agarrense males!

! We will all suffer the uncontrolled growth of recent years!

And although I do not like that people suffer for a high Euribor is the only way to stop the economic locomotive that was going to derail.

Luck at all because we will need.

-1

# 5, www.aedru.org

August 27, 2008, at 9:37.

In Spain they have to increase once they are wages. It seems that the unions do not exist, or is this a problem that does not worry.

+29

# 6, a little crude

August 27, 2008, at 9:39.

If I have the apples to 3 Kilo, a 2 and 1 on the Kilo Kilo, I decide whom I buy my turn. If I have 10 euros and buy three, I can only buy three kilos, when I buy a 1 can buy 10 Kilos.

So optmizo my income and yet the "manzaneros" can continue with their work. if we look at the price why not damaged the economy, on the contrary help reactivate it, the only ones who lose out are those that are enriched by their prices abusibos, on the other hand at the end if everyone did the same thing would eventually lower them.

If this has also put it to me like that negative reasons, the negative

+27

# 7, Flipper

August 27, 2008, at 9:44.

What I do not understand is that a few gentlemen who are devoted to analyzing the economy, to make predictions, opinions and analysis in the short, medium and long term, which will involve specialists, and that they live, they fail more than a shotgun fair.

I do not think this or that decent people are giving information and painting scenarios, which then is not that a little mistake, is that, rightly or not far away.

What are based to make these forecasts? Because clearly, then a Currito as I read the business press, and read and listen to these gentlemen and decides to act according to what they say these experts, and that the poor ordinary people can cost us a lot of money.

Which is that the end is my (our) money with what they're playing. If on the basis of these forecasts decides to buy an apartment now instead of within 3 years, or invest in venture capital, or buy a particular action ... Then the next day go so quiet and say 'hey no, that what I said Yesterday the crisis, that is not going to last for only 3 months, which will be 10 years, and shares of Mattel that have not risen, which have fallen 20% so it no longer invirtáis in them. " And UNO, which had decided to stick around ahorritos on what these "experts" had recommended, it loses a paste, and these men continue to earn his salary?

If I did my job badly I would fall bronzes, suspensions and salary employment and even fired me, and these gentlemen ... what?

The prediction that this makes the analyst, who won a dough, I find it laughable, that any of us can do this while we take a coffee: Mattel passing GM in market capitalization ... yes, of course, is that the crisis is a purchase a barbi but did not buy a car, and barbi worth less than the Play Station. From laughter!

Tomorrow the shares of Mattel down 10% and the specialist on duty will say: "Yes of course, is that the ongoing crisis there, children play hide-and camber, instead of buying a barbie." And you face in your house with lettuce seeing just lose equismil euro reversed yesterday on the advice of that analyst.

+77

# 8, Fran

August 27, 2008, at 9:45.

# 6

I agree with you. Consume less of what needs to be picked up with tweezers and very mean. It is not a lie, but tp is an absolute truth. Q what it should happen is that the government (whether of the sign is q) should establish mechanisms of control of commodities and run OF TRUTH investigation of the covenants of prices, etc, ...

# 9, js

August 27, 2008, at 9:50.

# 6, a little crude

I get you a negative for 3 reasons:
1 .- Because you can not go demanding explanations. The people you vote, period. Here we come to say, to the point of view without waiting for you negativicen or positivicen. Come on, what is said cagado come home.
2 .- Because there are accents, is like the crisis. And there are other aspects to take care of the spelling, like "If you put it too negative" or "abusibos prices."
3 .- Because you can not come calling with expensive fuel that is being: "A little bit crude"

+20

# 10, The tines

August 27, 2008, at 9:54.

# 9, js

Very well argued. We have to go through what you write before sending him.
I would put a negative that amuses me. (to say the educated and no offense).
Greetings

-18

# 11, Carsola

August 27, 2008, at 9:56.

What is my lovely Spain! that their income does not come to light of our dear pantheons Banking, and asked a hundred times and nobody moves a finger and all so quiet, as if it were not here for nothing, the matter said a thousand times is nothing flattering, the saying that greed breaks the bag, is what they have today they all have on indebted to the staff, and all of them first over-the injections by the ECB have to be repaid and said that I give you this from now on with guarantees and poor Cipotecas the pantheons lead them to its customers and said that the ECB will Nanai, that these are not worth as not worth the guarantees of corporate debts because of what happens today that GM is worth 10 and tomorrow is worth 1.
Bad picture until the end of the year because we have over the overhang becomes sobreimpagamiento.
When weighed in to say that not investing in Grifols only say that 5% of it acquired by Fidelity at the moment and currently owns an 8% does not mean anything and I do not believe that Spain has to be hospitalized and medicines as to to Grifols.
We will not save the Macarena

# 12, bass to the Salt

August 27, 2008, at 9:58.

Good morning! ...

What happens with GM may be the most appropriate end for a company of its size.
It is a final "Hollywood" for a mega car emporium based in the U.S. is that we do not forget the country's credit, subprime mortgages, the uncontrolled possession of weapons of election campaigns multimillionaire, the wooden houses that at least temporarily Rain go flying, the most stupid president in history, which makes military and undo whatever they wanted in other countries (former Yugoslavia, Iraq, Afghanistan, vietnam, korea, panama ...)

Come on, probably with this kind of thing we ought to realize that these AMERICAN (North Americans) who are so revered by the world, have a system that one of these days we are going to give a real distaste for the rest of mortals Because we already know "if the U.S. sneezes, the rest of the world is cold" ... and honestly understands NEVER.

What's curious is that the same ANALYSTS (or analistos) who were unable to avoid falling into the crisis, have dared to predict when will it (in 2010?) ...
and I ask you now, I continue to believe that these analysts are going to hit you?
Frankly, I have never successful in anything and I do not think it will never succeed because the economy is no longer governed by "rules" or "normal" by vested interests but by a few who have no problem or objection to push up the oil with such to earn more money (although that decision provoke an international crisis)

In order ...

I think that they are still well, we will have lots of toys at home, SI, but as before: the Tabas, the wheel, the combat, the handkerchief, marbles and veneers.
Surely we will be more so happy with a Hotwheels red and is capable of doing stunts.

A greeting.

+38

# 13, Carlos Lopez

August 27, 2008, at 9:58.

Regarding the negative, we must assume default 3 or 4 negative message. From 5 is where we must begin to worry.

-49

# 14, Johnny

August 27, 2008, at 10:00.

¿Flipper, even at this stage you still fiando of the people?

And more about money ... we should not rely nor Tato. They will win thanks to paste the unwary as you describe bite. (another issue is that if in addition to boasting of its bite and hinbersion of which are ready, we'll have deserved)

"If you look at it, is that I am the international analyst and I recommend you do this because it will cover." If that were true, in 99.9% of the time, the analyst is what Callari and forraría him and once lined ... the same thing to you account.

My driving teacher said: "I do not trust anybody or anything, I think." And because what was missing.

And remember ... "do not grab!"

# 15, oreidubic

August 27, 2008, at 10:01.

BIEE ...

It is reaching the point at which many people will have to justify what boy does during their working hours start at the moment ... 14 ... 15 ... 25,000 ... GM white collars.

The model with huge undertaking large inertia and processes to take any decision is going to hell .... with 5 or 600 guys in marketing does not have realized that the business model in its sector has changed .... I will say they do throughout the year ....

Analysts .... I would put at the head of an SME and see if it lasts more than a month ... with the owner who makes the pasta with the encouragement in the neck with the problems ... to sell ... with problems to recover ... with the problems in financing ...

If it was said that before the civil guard were "renegades of the plow," I would now analysts and consultants in this context "renegades of the plow" to be plowing a metaphor, I would say brilliant, the real productive economy ...

Less talk and more work .... acojonar less and help more ...

A rpegunta ... if I come cosnultor a strategic and GM are among its clients can I can descojonar in your face? .... GM General Motors ... I mean. that could be Mercat Gros and if coming to advise Gros Mercat by descontao I descojono on his face ...

+15

# 16, Carmen

August 27, 2008, at 10:03.

Good morning everyone. I leave this link. At least provokes a smile and also charge batteries to continue with the dire economic news. A greeting.

http://www.rankia.com/blog/fernan2/

+27

# 17, SinCuartos

August 27, 2008, at 10:03.

Someone has commented that the slowdown in growth in Asian economies may worsen the global crisis. It is clear that this is going to do that will slow global growth, but it seems to me that, paradoxically, that we can go well. Let me explain:

- If the emerging Asian economies are slowing, will lower its consumption of oil and raw materials, so our inflation would appreciate it.

- We must take into account these economies are primarily exporters of manufactured goods that we import and destroying industrial infrastructure in the West (mainly textiles and footwear). Therefore a break in these economies could come right, to relieve pressure on our industry.

- Finally, large investors could be raised to abandon their Asian investments and look for the West.

The point is that this could be the next chapter of the crisis, the fall in consumption in Western countries eventually lead to the break in the emerging countries-exporters.

+26

# 18, Flipper

August 27, 2008, at 10:07.

# 6
Yes but no.

Not always the apple of € 3 is the same product as the apple of 1 €.
Or the shoe of € 100 and € 40 of the shoe, or the car of € 15,000 and € 24,000 for.

Anyone who buys blocks of € 3 is paying a class, or a brand or a quality that, faced with a situation of crisis or need for savings, you have to flee the market for apples, 1 €, and therefore the company Apples of € 3 will be the first to notice the effects of the crisis.

The twitch of the matter is that the employer of apples to 3 € to be able to react in time to avoid losing their customers, and lower the price. If reacts afternoon at a time when employers start of apples a 2 and 1 euro notice the crisis in the form of increased profits (this is already happening now with the hypermarkets of white markings, the burgerking, the outlet clothing stores ...).

Yes it is true that they are used to apples from 3 € to 100 € or shoes, the buying will continue if the employer is smart and lowering prices enough.

# 19, john

August 27, 2008, at 10:10.

Good morning.
Just because I do not understand baneado, I write here with the colors of Nick and I have not insulted anybody and I do not understand.

-7

# 20, kokito

August 27, 2008, at 10:11.

Good morning, vietnam

Columbus did not know, but this is what could have led
Magellan and stay where he is staying, because I was playing the colon.

"Stark (ECB) rules out economic scenario" nightmare "and warns of second-round effects"

http://www.invertia.com/noticias/noticia.asp?subclasid=&clasid=&idNoticia=2008396

See you later

# 21, One More

August 27, 2008, at 10:13.

The problem of the economy is difficult by the lack of transparency. We all know that banks are not relying each other (no one knows whether we have placed a block of money in real estate) and therefore if it lends money, we are not sure when we will return and even if he will return. Therefore banks have to put the cards face up and see what assets and liabilities have and those who have played their cards wrong, managers should resign and even be prosecuted as in NY. Once known as each and the feasibility plans will return confidence and calm interbank bringing the Euribor down. While this is not the case and the government take in the matter each hide their miseries and try to put these liabilities as well as possible to settle the accounts of results (we want to sweep the shit under the carpet) and thus continue in his Seat.

A greeting

# 22, Flipper

August 27, 2008, at 10:14.

Johnny, when he was a small was in a stairwell and my father told me: "I jump you lame." I jumped and I am confident I hit a good ost.ión not because my father took me. "That's not to trust you or your father," he said.

If it is no longer fiarme or not fiarme, wondering what is portrayed as an analyst living in the story. We ask them to consult us or forums economy, which hit over here, and over free.

What interests have to make mistakes, or who handled them, or really are some hustler who lived to tell what the people want to hear, without having either pajolera idea of nothing?

# 23, bass to the Salt

August 27, 2008, at 10:15.

# 13, Carlos Lopez

The other day I made a comment and I got to put negative with 7 and in the end I ended up with more than 25 positive ...

Come on, EPICA comeback ...

A greeting

-31

# 24, foroch

August 27, 2008, at 10:17.

(The financial crisis just completing their first birthday should have ended long time ago, according to forecasts that authorities and analysts have launched during that time. However, the picture is exactly the opposite. There is no sign of improvement, but that the indicators suggest a further deterioration after the truce experienced some this spring. And most experts suggest that the situation will worsen still further until it is quite see the light at the end of the tunnel, which is not expected before 2010 as minimum)
---------------------------
Do not worry, with the index hit that the experts are having now is when there are indications that this is going to improve.

# 25, let your body joy Macarena

August 27, 2008, at 10:20.

# 6, a little crude

and for that I want 10 kilos of apples that will be small, cocosas and of poor quality?
I prefer 3 kilos that are good to eat when the enjoyment.
I eat a melon that is green jacket for me, I prefer one that cost three times but to give him a snack is enjoying it ...
Nor do I want a meat dry and hard that I was passing through and can not swallow or prefer a cute and good.
Of those 10 kilos of apples as the half ended in the trash Then you go to that price?
The farmer to invest more money in obtaining a better product to enter more money and offer quality, not quantity.

-4

# 26, Johnny

August 27, 2008, at 10:22.

Flipper, your father is a crack

The "analistos" People are just very expensive and hard to master in a "get to know that" but it has a name cojo.nudo and paint a lot.

The question that painted all those "analistos" All these marketing encorbatados coming to tell milongas, etc etc, we can take a long time.

I would rather focus on what is it worth wasting time trying to find out or to pass them and look for yourself conclusions?

They can serve as a basis for developing your own theories and such, but seen and that in matters of pasta you can not rely on juntillas feet of them.

# 27, Optimistic

August 27, 2008, at 10:24.

I like many of you have commented I do not trust anyone ... but ... nobody.

In late 2007 I read a story in which a senior official of the BBVA said that from March 2008 Euribor begin to decline at the end of 2008 stood at a figure close to 3.8 ... .. The penalty is that it will no longer find this news

3.8 !!!!!! I remember the figure ...

So if you know someone @ news I refer to appreciate that enclose the link and so we all laughed a bit ....

# 28, parking

August 27, 2008, at 10:26.

Although a little "scrape" associate the comparison between these two American giants, and what I have seen in the restaurants in Barcelona. People say "there is crisis, but the restaurants are still full." I say "OK, but look at the dishes and bottles !!!". Barcelona grow like mushrooms in restaurants odrecen acceptable quality at an affordable price (20/25 euros per person to eat a la carte, first, second, dessert and a bottle of wine for two). In addition, we have seen a major change. Before there was "menus" as weekends and nights and now most restaurants have menu if at all hours. On Saturday night I went to dinner with my partner near my house that there are three restaurants followed, with good food and very pleasant terrace. The three had a menu at night between 15 and 21 euros with drink included. The three were filled terrace, but I noticed all the tables and more than 80% had requested the menu. I did the same. A little further up the street there is a restaurant that is resistant to the menu and was nearly empty.
With all this roll what I mean is that most who are noticing fewer and the crisis will surely hasten the limit to buy a car (from General Motors or not) but does not want to give up the small pleasures like eating out of home once in when (but paying 20 euros per person, not 50) or buy your kids a toy (or is not of Hot Wheels). Who knows adapt to this opportunity, who can offer "little luxuries" prices "reasonable" may do much business despite the crisis.

+24

# 29, john

August 27, 2008, at 10:26.

Here is hiding all the junk mortgages, loans and debt immigrants to the building .... The policy is to paint the facade of gold leaf. While being sold as the unpaid 70-60-50 of the value of their debts to collection of bars.
Greetings

# 30, XYZ

August 27, 2008, at 10:27.

Good morning.

Zaragozano as the concern over the situation GM is something special.

The factory they have in Figueruelas directly to some 8,000 people. Indirectly provides employment to about 25,000 because many companies are affiliates who work exclusively for GM

The last few years that are most worrying. Everything indicates that the return of a very short time this factory will eventually close.

The impact that this may have on Aragon is incredible. If this happens at this time of crisis, the consequences can be disastrous. What Delphi in Cadiz would be child's play next to this, here is not going to leave a government rescue.

And we do not have an industrial alternative to relocate these people.

I planted chives in the back of anything.

Anyway, greetings and that things will improve soon.

+19

# 31, Anonymous

August 27, 2008, at 10:28.

hinbersion, Menudo palabreja yours ....

# 32, john

August 27, 2008, at 10:28.

is hiding all the junk mortgages, loans and debt immigrants to the building .... The policy is to paint the facade of gold leaf. While being sold as the unpaid 70-60-50 of the value of their debts to collection of bars.
Greetings

-2

# 33, Flipper

August 27, 2008, at 10:29.

# 26 Johnny

You have to be observers, we have no other. And learn to observe not only the economy and whether a business is a good idea or not, but the level of speculation that can generate.

and cross your fingers.

# 34, XYZ

August 27, 2008, at 10:36.

# 5 aedru.org

I have to say days. If we do not have salaries Europeans (and I mean France, Germany, England, etc.). I do not understand why taxes are similar to those countries, but with services, in general, rather than (exclude the issue of Social Security).

With regard to trade unions, it is clear that throughout these years have been subsidized to the south. There is some confusion between the party and the unions. Especially since he lost the identification of the UGT and CCOO widgets with the PC (or as we like IU version).

The vast majority of the members and sympathizers are CCOO voters widgets.

That's why none of the two largest unions do or say something against the government's economic policy.

I do not speak by speaking but by direct knowledge of the topic: There are number of charges paid CCOO who have been directly appointed by politicians in the south.

None is going to bite the hand that fed him. (Or that Rocks the Cradle, as you).

So it is best to call Lobatón to see if you encounter any union action.

Greetings.

+20

# 35, Flipper

August 27, 2008, at 10:39.

With regard to comment # 5 I totally agree, but bring up the case of Volkswagen in about a year ago.

As some may recall there was a strike due to the enormous pressure to raise union wages.

El resultado final fue que Volkswagen se llevó casi la mitad de la producción de Navarra, y en lugar de ampliar la fábrica decidió abrir una en Reino Unido porque… el coste salarial allí era igual que en Navarra, y además se ahorraban el transporte (hasta el año pasado se fabricaban en Pamplona coches con el volante a la derecha).

Es un caso en que la subida salarial no siempre beneficia al empleo. Y como dice el comentario #1, mal paciente es la economía.

# 36 , Syd

27 de Agosto de 2008, a las 10:39.

Para optimista aquí va un link con la noticia sobre la opinión del BBVA acerca del valor del euribor a 3,8 %.
http://www.elperiodico.com/default.asp?idpublicacio_PK=46&idioma=CAS&idnoticia_PK=451207&idseccio_PK=1009

# 37 , cansad@

27 de Agosto de 2008, a las 10:53.

Buenos días a todos,

OPTIMISTA,
aqui tienes este enlace no se si es el que buscabas??
http://www.bolsageneral.com/euribor/el-euribor-bajara-del-4-a-finales-de-2008-por-posibles-bajadas-de-tipos-dice-bbva/

Yo estuve esta semana hablando con mi banco sobre todos estos temas y me han comentando que ellos no esperan mejoria hasta finales del 2009.

Alguien me podría comentar algo sobre una hipoteca cerrada?? no se si el nombre correcto. Hablando con mi prima me ha dicho que en su hipoteca como máximo podría subirle la cuota hasta 800 euros. Que aunque siguiera subiendo el euribor el banco solo le podría cobrar como máximo los 800 euros???

Que pensais de todo esto??

Thank you

# 38 , paniagua

27 de Agosto de 2008, a las 10:53.

#36 Syd
Que pedazo de artículo, no da pie con bola, espero que nadie se basará en él para solicitar una hipoteca

# 16 Carmen
Muy bueno…

Ayer me paso una cosa curiosa (x no decir deprimente), me tenían que poner la inyección del tétanos y ¡no hay en ningún sitio!… increible no? x suerte no me he muerto… será que laboratorios Grifols la está fabricando en masa y la van a comercializar proximamente, por eso van a subir sus acciones… x si acaso mas vale que no os hagais ningún corte.

# 39 , Fran

27 de Agosto de 2008, a las 10:56.

#36 Syd. Es de hace casi un año

-3

# 40 , XYZ

27 de Agosto de 2008, a las 10:56.

Me permito rescatar un comentario de ayer por lo apropiado que me parece sobre lo que ocurre en este foro a partir de determinada hora.

Disculpas al autor por hacerlo sin permiso.

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# 127 , LEON

26 de Agosto de 2008, a las 17:32.

Teoremas leoneses:

1.- Hoy la calidad de los comentarios es inversamente proporcional a la calidad del artículo.

2.- Todo troll sumergido en este foro desaloja una cantidad de participantes igual al volumen de sus comentarios.

3.- Si algo puede ir peor que leer a up up, irá peor.

4.- Otros vendrán que agapitos te harán.

# 41 , Mesmer

27 de Agosto de 2008, a las 11:00.

Por lo que vengo observando todos estos meses de “crisis”, los analistas de las grandes corporaciones financieras no hacen más que seguir la corriente… con matices más o menos destacados, todos confluyen en el mismo discurso y dan la sensación de que más que querer acertar en sus pronósticos, lo que procuran es no desentonar con el resto. Al fin y al cabo, ellos son parte integrante del sistema y no van a tirar piedras contra su propio tejado… Pensamiento único, lo llamaban.

Y sólo fuera de la ortodoxia, encontramos gente con puntos de vista mucho más audaces que son los que mejor nos advitieron en su día del “olor a podrido” que desprendía el sistema y que a la postre son los que mejor han previsto el descalabro económico en el que nos vemos inmersos. Pero son “outsiders” de la ortodoxia económica imperante que en su día fueron calificados de agoreros y catastrofistas.

Y si transcendemos la cuestión, tal vez no sea un asunto de “analistas”, sino más bien de “sistemas económicos”. La dimensión de la crisis y sus consecuencias pondrán a cada uno en su lugar.

# 42 , Breogan

27 de Agosto de 2008, a las 11:02.

# 30 , XYZ

O mucho cambia todo o me temo que Opel en Figueruelas y Renault en Valladolid van bajar la persiana definitivamente en un plazo medio/corto de tiempo.

# 43 , Euribor up up !!!

27 de Agosto de 2008, a las 11:08.

**************

VAMOS AHORRANDO… NO GASTÉIS MÁS DE LO QUE PODÁIS.

NO OS ENDEUDÉIS.

-33

# 44 , XYZ

27 de Agosto de 2008, a las 11:09.

# 42 , Breogan

En una conferencia de hace mas o menos un año, el entonces Presidente de Opel en Figueruelas en una sede de UGT les dijo a los alli presentes (yo estaba invitado): “Ya se que es duro decirlo precisamente en este foro, pero debéis ser conscientes de que ninguna empresa del automóvil, a nivel mundial, va a efectuar ninguna inversión en europa en una nueva planta de automóviles. A lo mas que podemos aspirar es a que mantengan inversiones que permitan mantener durante unos años las fábricas ahora existentes. Pero tened por seguro que en un plazo de no muchos años habrán desaparecido la totalidad de las fábricas que ahora existen en europa accidental”

Creo que no pudo ser mas claro.

# 45 , Juanan

27 de Agosto de 2008, a las 11:11.

Último Valor del EURIBOR
27/08/2008

5,306 -0,038%

# 46 , Anónimo

27 de Agosto de 2008, a las 11:13.

Nombre Último Dif. % Max.Anual Min.Anual Fecha
EURIBOR 1 WEEK (360) 4,405 -0,004 -0,091 4,428 4,106 27/08/2008
EURIBOR 2 WEEKS (360) 4,436 -0,001 -0,023 4,438 4,126 7/08/2008
EURIBOR 3 WEEKS (360) 4,456 0,000 0,000 4,461 4,151 27/08/2008
EURIBOR 1 MONTH (360) 4,485 0,000 0,000 4,494 4,172 27/08/2008
EURIBOR 2 MONTHS (360) 4,757 0,000 0,000 4,762 4,252 7/08/2008
EURIBOR 3 MONTHS (360) 4,964 -0,001 -0,020 4,970 4,288 27/08/2008
EURIBOR 4 MONTHS (360) 5,033 0,001 0,020 5,036 4,295 27/08/2008
EURIBOR 5 MONTHS (360) 5,114 0,001 0,020 5,117 4,295 27/08/2008
EURIBOR 6 MONTHS (360) 5,159 0,001 0,019 5,167 4,293 27/08/2008
EURIBOR 7 MONTHS (360) 5,178 0,000 0,000 5,198 4,291 27/08/2008
EURIBOR 8 MONTHS (360) 5,199 0,000 0,000 5,246 4,289 27/08/2008
EURIBOR 9 MONTHS (360) 5,228 0,001 0,019 5,294 4,288 27/08/2008
EURIBOR 10 MONTHS (360) 5,253 -0,001 -0,019 5,345 4,287 27/08/2008
EURIBOR 11 MONTHS (360) 5,280 -0,003 -0,057 5,393 4,285 27/08/2008
EURIBOR 12 MONTHS (360) 5,306 -0,002 -0,038 5,439 4,287 27/08/2008

# 47 , Juanan

27 de Agosto de 2008, a las 11:13.

El 47 soy yo jejeje

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# 48 , Agapito

27 de Agosto de 2008, a las 11:15.

NO COMPREIS COCHES, Y MENOS DE GENERAL MOTORS !
SON CARISIMOS
Mejor comprar de segunda mano o uno de stos baratitos:
Mi primo Eleuterio se ha comprado un Dacia Logan de esos y está de lujo!

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# 49 , dumper

27 de Agosto de 2008, a las 11:15.

Buenas chicos.

Hoy he estado en uno de los bancos con el que trabajo en la empresa y hablando con la chica que esta en ventanilla con la que tengo una cierta amistad, le he preguntado que tal va la gente.

Me ha dicho que en cuanto a empresas es una rueda de impagos y que están cayendo empresas que nunca parecía que iban a estar jodidas. La verdad es que dentro de ese saco a lo mejor se cree que esta la mía, lo que no sabe es que el dinero se lo quitamos progresivamente por los malos augurios que nos llegaron sobre esa entidad financiera. Se lo quitamos despacito para que no se notara mucho, ya que con ellos tenemos buenas condiciones y nos interesaba que no se notase una actuación hostil. Ahora les dejamos los 20.000€ que cubre el FGD y punto, y procuramos financiarnos con su póliza si puntualmente nos hace falta.

En cuanto a particulares me ha comentado que no se nota la crisis, que la gente sigue sin tener un duro igual que antes, pero que ahora no conceden hipotecas.

En cuanto al consumo, tengo ganas de que llegue el día 1 de septiembre (lo siento por los que empezáis a currar esa fecha) para ver si el panorama desolador que este mes de agosto que se ha percibido en muchas zonas de ocio sigue o se trata de un parón estival.

Estuve el viernes en el centro comercial Mataró Park. Es un sitio donde intento no ir los viernes por la tarde ya que normalmente hay cola desde la autopista para acceder a él, lo que supone muchos días 20 min de espera, y comentaros que Mataró es una ciudad costera del Maresme, y queda cerca de muchos pueblos de veraneo. El viernes pasado tenia el presentimiento que no iba a ha haber cola. Allá a las 5 le dije a mi novia, arréglate que nos vamos a Mataró Park a mirar un par de cosas al Media-Markt ya tomar un heladito. Ella me miró extrañada y me comentó que era viernes y que habría un follon de la ostia. Le dije que daba igual. Cogemos el coche, llegamos a la altura de Argentona donde normalmente ya empieza la cola y nadie, sigo por la autovía y me desvío hacia la autopista dirección Gerona tomando una larga curva en paella que normalmente se hace parado en caravana y nadie. Entro en la autopista y nadie por aquí nadie por allí. Llego a la salida de Mataró que esta a 1 km mas o menos y ahí encuentro algo de trafico para pasar la rotonda, cruzo el puente llego al centro comercial y APARCO EN EL PARKING EN SUPERFICIE DE DELANTE. Alucinante, normalmente, los viernes toca bajar al piso -2 y dar algunas vueltas. No os voy negar que había gente, pero no la avalancha que hay los viernes.

Por el contrario ayer estuve paseando por La Roca Outlet y si que había gente para ser un martes. No el colapso que hay cundo llegan le rebajas, pero se veían las tiendas con gente, y normalmente entre semana los/las dependientes/as se comen un poco los moquillos.

Estoy impaciente señores, recordad que la economía no eso de lo que hablan esos señores trajeados y los analistos, la economía es esto, es el día a día, es si la gente compra o pasea, si la gente paga a debito oa crédito, es si la gente no esta porque esta en casa o por que esta en el caribe, si la gente se toma unas tapas y un vermouth o un café solo. La tan temida reducción del consumo la causamos todos, uno a uno y solo hace falta observar.

Estaría bien que todos pusiéramos un poco lo que vemos intentando ser un poco objetivos, es lo que mas nos puede ayudar, estar informados de primera mano, sin intermediarios. Esto es lo bello de Internet. Nos dan la posibilidad de intercambiar información y nos dedicamos a intercambiar insultos. Reflexionen señores.

Saludos.

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# 50 , vic

27 de Agosto de 2008, a las 11:16.

Con todo lo que dicen los analistas, y toda la información que tenemos, cada vez estamos más desinformados.

Los estudios que nos presentan los analistas no creo que se deban tomar muy en serio, con los tiempos que corren. ¿Quién nos asegura que una información o análisis no esta pagado por un determinado sector?, ya sabemos lo esclava que puede ser la prensa, y más cuando se esta hablando de mucho dinero.

Como me decia un abuelo: “De lo que veas: la mitad creas; de lo que no veas: no creas nada”

Por tanto, si nos metemos en algo nuevo, que sea conocido o cercano a nosotros, nada de gangas, que uno nunca sabe con quien se juega los cuartos.

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