Aristotle Socrates Martin

There are those who are born with a star, for example someone called Aristotle Socrates Onassis had to get away for noses, this man had in the'50s so much pasta stating that if he had decided to sell all its shares, Wall Street would have faltered.

His tactic was to establish companies, mortgage their property immediately and with the money successfully found new companies. The principle of "Other People Money," the money of others.

One of his most remembered phrases is:

To achieve success, to keep a tan, lives in an elegant building, even in the basement, let yourself be seen in trendy restaurants, but only take a drink, and if you borrow, ask a lot.

In our country we have had an imitator of Onasis, but unfortunately not be called "Aristotle Socrates," if not to be named "Fernando" and name "Martin" (and he says Carlos Lopez, that such names does not help to succeed ) So as things stand we must make firewood from fallen tree, which a fairly Issues. As such, this article will be released on the magazine "Time" titled "The palette was thought that Onassis," as you see, the start can not be harder:

The story of Fernando Martin is a provincial without convictions, with a huge economic ambition and self-esteem fired. "You say those who know-depth with a swashbuckling scruples very fair."

It was just a pretty movidita week on the Web, where we read both articles highly reflective, such as breaking news and even videos something manipulators designed to show us the message that we want to hear. But everything seen, we can only point out one thing and is the comment of the week, that if I go wrong accounts is as follows:

# 63, Perplexed ...
July 15, 2008, at 10:35.
I was perplexed these years of economic boom back, watching as the real estate and banks were stratospheric profits. And as long as their managers and children from families of good friends, lived getting better, with salaries immoral and scandalous a standard of living. While the Currito honest (they have no other), continued with their salaries adjusted, raising the country, not to shoot inflation.
This without mentioning the now demonized immigration, which as before were paid two hard working, and not annoying, not saying anything. Now that there are unemployed and do not have to put in their mouths, we are afraid, they start to steal to eat.
Now has come the storm, the government, I do not care that the earlier the current (because the laws are the same), allows these companies to go bankrupt, and thousands of Currito go to the street.
Both Currito of thousands of supplier companies such as rock or Simon. As those who have bought a house on a plane in this case Martins, and now they do not know who is going to be them, or who is going to repay their money.
And I always do me the same question. Where is the money they had earned during all these years? Why are not frozen the assets of these individuals, who now have ruined so many families? Because the laws allow, that these people, create parallel societies to deflect and hide, large mixed fortunes during the boom real estate (tax haven, companies in the names of relatives, super luxury properties, purchase of Senior Officials of the shelter favors) ? ¿I repeat, where is that money?. Not because they are forced to return soon to declare the company in receivership?
The answer is easy. Both the money and keep the family name this or that, it buys everything. They are above and below us and will always be the case.
For them it is a game like Monopoli, I lose this company and I continue with this one. I continue to live tuttiplen, I still just as well.
Thinking about the next move in the next company to create in the next throw of the dice. In playing with the lives of so many and so many people, are just total chips (numbers), and are there to move them.
For those who had the misfortune of buying a house on the plane, it will be a pothole that supports for ten or twenty years, until I get bad pass recover ...
So, there is peace among ourselves, we do not fight, do not give them that pleasure. Screwed, but happy. Peace in the forum!
A greeting to everyone s!
Al.

You know, folks, do not forget to read the diary of a pawn, as you are identified.

June 26, 2008
What a glorious morning! This land was made for battle, not only for its perfect symmetrical square of white and black but because they drive in front of the king himself!
Oh, mother would be so proud!
June 27, 2008
The battle has begun today, and guess who was the first to jump into battle? Guess! Mother, d be so proud of my jump from two boxes, why?, Could compete with the same horse! I wonder as the enemy will react to this move so bold?
June 28, 2008
So, it is not to overestimate the enemy! They have discovered one of my weaknesses. Right now stands rival a pawn in front of me, blocking as I type. So I'm stuck here until the bastard moves, or until you kill.
June 29, 2008
I am surprised to see a pawn rival still alive. I am being protected by one of my fellow laborers, his name is John, nice guy, actually. However, the bastard is also protected by one of their own, so it will take more time than originally expected to be able to move.
June 30, 2008
Perfect! Now the laborer who was protecting the bastard that blocked my path is being protected by another. Ugh. It is not so bad, killing three laborers and me out of here! Piece of cake!

July 1, 2008
Well, I spoke with the pawn in front of me. His name is Bill. Nice guy, really. Is as frustrated as I do.
July 2, 2008
Nothing has happened today.
July 3, 2008
Nothing.
July 4, 2008
Nothing.
July 5, 2008
I am considering suicide.
July 6, 2008
Write when something interesting happens.
December 25, 2008
Well, a pawn has been moved diagonally to me, and the commander has decided to ignore that fact and kill the queen's openente instead. The bastard. I left here for 5 months so that I cursed a pawn mate opponent. My protection is gone, my death is certain. Bill, died two months ago. I miss that old bastard. It said that war was hell, but I realized that this was the hell to which it referred ...

Good weekend, pawns.

PS: Next week will be on vacation, so I prepare articles for canned and reheated in the microwave.

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# 1, Martins

July 18, 2008, at 9:27.

Savers, ING offers 6%.

# 2, flaquita

July 18, 2008, at 9:38.

It is 6% for five months, the rest to 3%, and all that remains TAE

On the other hand the fixed rate mortgage in the orange is on a 5.60%, one of the lowest in recent times.

Let each side draw their conclusions.

That the force will accompany.

# 3, Mandy

July 18, 2008, at 9:46.

If you are already a customer, is a tank. I think the time has come hacersela my wife and start moving the money as a comment on the tricks of tucapital.com.

-5

# 4, Anita

July 18, 2008, at 9:46.

Rather, it will be one of the highest ...

-17

# 5, JAIME

July 18, 2008, at 9:55.

Well, I am one of those who thinks TANKS those provided to a max of 3 months for two reasons, to improved mobility and necessity, if you go left then distinct, I got him to 5, 29 in nominal RURALCAJA

-2

# 6, flaquita

July 18, 2008, at 9:56.

# 4, Anita

No Anita, a fixed rate has come to be at a 5.98%, which is among the lowest in "recent times", I mean by that is the lowest in the last year, if not The upside craziness of the past few months.

That the force will accompany.

# 7, Deimos Fenix

July 18, 2008, at 10:04.

Good morning to all s
If the Chinese (or Japanese did not remember correctly) used the same word for crisis that TIMELINESS, these chickens in the crisis have seen their business opportunity, 40% of the value and repurchases by a +20% this does not do it called usury?

http://www.empenatucoche.es/como_funciona.htm

# 8, flaquita

July 18, 2008, at 10:05.

Certainly if the accounts make the interest a year that comes with the average is 4.25% APR is a percentage that sounds curiously me of something.

If they have never been given to four hard pesetas

That the force will accompany.

# 9, jdx

July 18, 2008, at 10:08.

Yesterday I was called Caixa Catalunya, to change my shell I normalucho q (4ypoco to think ...), to put it in a warehouse on-line, or a fixed-6-12meses on bag .... Phew ...
I smell q need something like pasta or not?

# 10, JAIME

July 18, 2008, at 10:10.

jdx weird because I think, because if you have a deposit? do better in that you have not? Look to see if the thymus is the estampita and has fine print

-3

# 11, Poor

July 18, 2008, at 10:14.

To those who knew how to wait
http://www.finanzas.com/noticias/vivienda/2008-07-12/24584_alquiler-subio-junio-43-interanual.html

Rents go up by 4.3% and 2.5% lower floors, with the aggravating circumstance that some would not buy it. Do not be na

And this news is really good. Above the gurus of the prices go down you are the guilty that they do not. Oh, Carsolete, Pollino, arsonist
http://www.larioja.com/20080709/rioja-region/aumento-demanda-alquileres-rioja-20080709.html

Finally, fashion caseril: ask for a bank guarantee Anita, in case you do not know, you've got detained for a year that money could not do anything with it, without triggering income (but expenses charged by the bank, of course) do on wanted Taquito this? Dreamers

+17

# 12, anonymous

July 18, 2008, at 10:15.

in a give-and 3.5 and 4.5 in tubancaja, without the need for deposits, accounts are normal.

# 13, Bea.

July 18, 2008, at 10:16.

Good morning,

Terms of Deposit to 6% from ING for customers:
* TAE calculated for any amount greater than one euro cent. Payment of interest will arise upon maturity of the deposit. Nominal annual interest rate of 5.90% (6% APR). For all the money from other entities that would increase its global position in ING DIRECT to 23/06/08.
Valid for individuals older than age. Offer not combinable with other promotions.
** If the time between recruitment and the maturity date of the deposit decrease its overall position in ING Direct, the bank canceled the same amount of the deposit to move into its
ORANGE account and are remunerated from that moment the rate prevailing on that account.

It is "curious" that these offers to increase the balance in whatever condition that the money comes from another entity and the limited amount sent to me in conjunction with extra pay.

# 14, Martins

July 18, 2008, at 10:17.

# 5, JAIME

It is 5 months but with availability, without penalty, if you like what you cancel in advance and settled at 5.90% nominal (6% APR).

Comes across as a 5% until the end of the year that just 1 months later, they are no longer 6, is 5 months.

# 8, flaquita

If I make the average of deposits that I have this year .. I get something else .. offers 10%, 11% of several entities.
And if you're married and you have your account name and that of your partner and not tell you ... the money is the same for the bank but not

# 15, GIO

July 18, 2008, at 10:21.

# 2, flaquita

What is the relationship between depóstios to 6% and 5.6% mortgage? I'm thinking about taking the tank and I do not know what you mean to draw Conclusions.

Thanks!

# 16, flaquita

July 18, 2008, at 10:21.

# 14, Martins

I have no doubt that it serves with the movements of "kpital" between accounts.

The only thing I wanted to express was that the average output in the account of ING, no more. It was just an objective.

That the force will accompany

# 17, Mano H20

July 18, 2008, at 10:22.

Hello everyone:

Given that I dedicate much time to read the multiple reviews of this forum, arguing that this would learn a lot from economic issues, my wife has made me a surprise review to see if progress properly.

He has asked me to make a brief, 20 points, from what I learn here. There he goes:

1 .- C. Lopez is a genius writing 3 days, 5 published articles, which he last 7 days. A salary level would be for me to pay € 3,000, which I knew to 5,000 € and I durasen as 7000 €
2 .- The number of comments a day is directly proportional to the oscillations of the Euribor.
3 .- An increase in the price of a barrel of oil means a rise of a liter of diesel fuel and CPI. A drop in the price of a barrel of maintaining the CPI and diesel. That is called "consolidation effect."
4 .- The nickname used in the forum but I can not identify because it is anonymous. That yes. It has more variations that euphemisms to name the crisis.
5 .- Though it may seem a paradox, a layman is the most learned.
6 .- While it may seem another paradox, which is best expressed mudito.
7 .- It is no paradox that Pepitilla him to make the comments more than a broom stick.
8 .- When the Euribor rises, Attila Fyahball you and pokes you burn.
9 .- As the rain appear snails, at noon, when pressed over the sun, appear trolls.
10 .- Escamoso is the king of irony
11 .- A brief comment is better than a thousand words: "They should put on TV's debate Solbes and Pizarro. It seems that we have no memory "Or for example:" Hi I'm the violinist of the Titanic, I have not hired to stop playing "
12 .- Copero, single, yeye, expañoleitor, Testosterone on the right and left.
13 .- Some people expressed through crystal clear. Example: "There are days in this qu euno for grabs hope that not everyone is a square head GARCIAS at all, I do not want people to think like me, jajaja better, but thinks" (¿send?) (Signed Bethlehem Esteban) Ah!
14 .- The question most repeated in the economic forum is Who voted for the "widgets?
15 .- The biggest mystery of the economic forum is to know what time you sleep my dear Carsola. How can you write in the morning, afternoon and evening? And also give us the envy of gin and tonic that fits between chest and back.
16 .- A test of the quality of this forum is that the number of members is nearly identical to that of members. A good example is sirialuna and his game of the goose, "De expo expo and a crisis because it is my turn"
17 .-
18 .- Today is July 18 and not have given me the extra, say, I returned finances.
19 .- The official arbiter of the forum is Deimos phoenix. Example: "Jaime, yeye, each in a corner. And you type in the double line of notebooks with the spiral to the left, with the HB2 pencil a thousand times: the personal grudges, by telephone and not in euribor.com.es "
20 .- Today bajadita of the Euribor. Signed: Guru.

Yes, now that I've left blank on 17. Is to take advantage to greet some good Forero, as oreidubic, jdx, mandy, Breogan, javielML or colors.

Salu2

+106

# 18, GIO

July 18, 2008, at 10:23.

The comment of the week, # 63 ... Perplexed, said truths as fists.

The top game with marked cards and will always be the case.

Every time I hear talk of a ZP social policy and as I recall does not say much of the royal family, I want to beat him by a slap hypocritical.

# 19, manonegra

July 18, 2008, at 10:24.

# 13, Bea.

I am a client of ING, the problem of these deposits is that what you have to be there still.
I now what I have in ibanesto to 5.5% APR, but what can I get whenever I want, with monthly settlement (as before in ING) because I finished all the offers of 11 and 10% a month ...

Greetings!

# 20, flaquita

July 18, 2008, at 10:27.

# 15, GIO

The only connection we have is the price at which you "buy" money and to which you "sell" is a simple explanation but I believe that clear.

# 21, Mandy

July 18, 2008, at 10:27.

# 17, Mano H20
Come on, you've suspended the review! And your wife has thrown you the God's ...

# 22, Tranchetillo

July 18, 2008, at 10:29.

Have given me a letter announcing that from the day on August 15 I will leaving the company going to strike. And who paid the settlement that day. (That there are holidays in the company). What should I sign? now?

# 23, funcionator

July 18, 2008, at 10:30.

Already expressed my opinion about the character Fernando Mantin few days ago, but the article on Onassis merely stress. Incidentally, in this same journal found another that I found very successful (corroborating totally with my personal experience), and not specifically for this character, but for this profile in general: http://www.lanacion.es/ 2008/07/17/de-la-arrogancia-a-la-presbicia /

Luckily I had the opportunity to work from relatively young, as a technology consultant with the senior management of both very large companies, one of a class very close to Martins.
What is less of the rage that gives you such as excessive hubris and stupidity, what matters are the decisions they make and how they are made, and the business potential and development is wasted as a result.

I have no words to describes what kind of characters I have met and surprise, anger and frustration that has led me to see what kind of characters includes the Spanish business park.

Suffice it to say that one reason for more weight to go after 10 years in the private sector to impede the administration has been seen that picture, and certainly now gives me much more satisfaction working for the general interest for the pockets of those types, even with all he has to criticize the administration on the other hand, it is not little.

We should not say that there are bright people who deserve to be there, but it draws attention to the number of clones that Martin, and there are other profiles as a (very typical) the listillo with Master degree in ICADE IESE without any experience that Daddy , Which is a kind gorilla Martin, colocadito well positioned from the outset. No need to comment on the decisions that come out of there.

But that is what we have, large companies are endogamous basically a club where the principle of merit and ability shines in his absence in most cases. And where would eventually be cut by heads of interests and personal political and promotions are granted equally.

I think even drag a country with very few large companies and posts "fat" that few are broken families that have taken power throughout life.

We do not have an economic system based on productivity and competitiveness, unable to use, such technology as a weapon of innovation and business improvement (and looks to be the obvious) is one of the many reflections of this.

The hope I have is that this generation is going extiengiendo little by little, and what little I've seen I think there is a generation, the environment 30-35 years, perhaps because it is otherwise very different, but they are few and their initiatives have to jell. So the way, if it exists, is still long.

Meanwhile the only way that we ordinary citizens are interested in these things, well informed and participate in the political and social life, and ponerselo with our small decisions every day more difficult for these undesirable characters.

It is necessary that businesses and government feel our breath on their backs, a level of pressure and outrage with which these issues can not ignore that they are pressured to do things like this:
http://www.elpais.com/articulo/economia/juez/estudiara/embargar/bienes/administradores/Martinsa/elpepueco/20080718elpepieco_6/Tes

Salu2

+67

# 24, GIO

July 18, 2008, at 10:33.

# 20, flaquita

Ok, thanks for the explanation. So for all those who have contracted a type stable with ING below the 6% offer, is it more profitable to hire the shell to make an early repayment of capital?

Thanks!

# 25, Mano H20

July 18, 2008, at 10:33.

# 21, Mandy

Clear. Ha, ha ... well, but I have an excuse to repeat and repeat. I'll say that I have to spend more time reading at the forum.

Salu2

# 26, Ojo

July 18, 2008, at 10:34.

# 23, Tranchetillo
Sign nothing at all. Take papelillo and running the union for 8que this does serve)

# 27, villa

July 18, 2008, at 10:38.

Martins' money is invested in luxury real estate, luxury cars and others as well .. said the comment of the week should have a law which would oblige Martins indenizar all those harmed by the fault of a few guys who lived body King for years by mismanagement and now it has to happen. In addition many others like them .. just normal people who knew something of their profession and rode companies that grew so much in such a short time .. it is logical that something like this can not be passed .. want everything on so little and pretend to keep for a long .. that's why only time will be kept companies from the truth .. that were not rich at the expense of the poor ..
A greeting and good day for everyone

+11

# 28, Deimos Fenix

July 18, 2008, at 10:39.

# 17, Mano H20

Your personal analysis of the forum is the largest in a long time, and thanks for dedicating a server @ one point. Arbiter of what is not me that goes well, but the personal grudges and more if they do not have to do with the general or particular thread of the forum and annoy me a lot.
Thanks anyway.

# 29, primers

July 18, 2008, at 10:40.

23 Tranchetillo

The settlement agreement can be signed or not. If you receive the amount that is reflected in it, although it is not correct, you can sign the release form, expressing next to his signature "received non-compliant."
You can refuse to sign the release form, although in that case did not receive the amount that appears in it.
Anyway I would go to the union.

# 30, Mandy

July 18, 2008, at 10:41.

# 24, funcionator
As the story of 'nation' is called to make firewood from fallen tree.

# 31, Duende Garrapata

July 18, 2008, at 10:46.

# 17, Mano H20

Special thanks for comment and devote one line.

# 32, funcionator

July 18, 2008, at 10:47.

Mandy,

I do not usually make fuel to the grace fallen tree, but in this case you want to tell you ...

On the other hand, we'll see if it is dropped, is likely to fall or remains well derechito ...

Salu2

# 33, Laurina

July 18, 2008, at 10:47.

Following the repurchase of soil Martins-Fadesa by the government to "help solve the problem," I think our legislation should provide a measure such as exists in the U.S., and that is that the employer must respond with all its assets (all types) to creditors, namely the left with the clothes we wear it, and their immediate family members (spouse and children). But, of course, is another mentality ...

+14

# 34, Carlos Lopez

July 18, 2008, at 10:49.

The truth is that what has MañoH2O embroidery!

+15

# 35, Trisquel

July 18, 2008, at 10:53.

# 22, funcionator

Working in this sector in which you spend 10 years of your life .... And I agree with you on almost everything .... The landscape of our business is bleak ... and I think we are moving out of inertia more than they should ... and I mean big business and corporations ... but if you go down a little bit more and we are not talking about Botines, Amancio, .... .. is to mourn are a bunch of sharks who now want to socialize debts, as much as winning, but as managers I have my doubts ... ... . ... in the end anyway, I always do the same analysis of the above are devastating and quite apart from abajono walk ... .... 70% of the population is "shark" in its action (eg fraud to finance, escaqueo , To enmarronar next door, hide information ... "... a bit of resignation" we are well, and so every day we are further away from the G8, G15 or all Gs who want to do ....

Right now many people are taking advantage of the "crisis" "slowdown" adjustment "or as we like to call it .... ERES are already being provided under the crisis (I know what I mean), people say" I can not sell, you do not know that we are in crisis "," people do not pay, as we are in crisis, "and I know more than one that is going to strike but agreed with your employer continues to make its quick ... .. but meanwhile it all pay unemployment .... INEM some courses with paid work and employment insured at the end of the course ... ... .. deserts are in order ... that's all a bit bleak ... ..

In all that I do not agree on is your reference to ICADE ... but as I have 31 years to the best except me .... I do not like these kind of hatred ... because pertenezo to the generation development where public education, where he was a real equality of opportunity ... and finally my parents (after my entire life in public) chose ICADE, who paid with much effort of the whole family because they thought it was the best ... and I probably would have "fallen" in studying the public by my social class, income from my parents, .... but made an effort to what we have always said that is what they wanted to leave legacy of "training" .... So if I think that is the generation that was in the university when Mario Conde was the example in society .... are a little sharks, arrogant, climb, ... and also had luck because they were incorporated into the job market when there was enough supply employment .... the 30 to 35 had a little less luck .... but we should not complain .... we must try to change things if we do not like, I hate complacency ....

DO NOT forget that society is all of us, and that the Spanish entrepreneurial class is very far from being the best in the world .... But sometimes we in our little plot left much to be desired ... ..

Working in the capitalist world, yes, perhaps in the pocket of my partners, but the contribution to the society from which I get up until I go to ....

+30

# 36, Deimos Fenix

July 18, 2008, at 10:56.

The movie is called "slap Reality" (Reality Slap)
The IMF cut to 1.2% forecast growth of Spain in 2009, is the only country that the IMF revised downwards
http://www.elpais.com/articulo/economia/FMI/rebaja/prevision/crecimiento/Espana/2009/elpepueco/20080717elpepueco_11/Tes

# 37, Deimos Fenix

July 18, 2008, at 10:57.

Sorry for # 36 unidentified, it is mine

# 38, F.lipo

July 18, 2008, at 10:58.

# 5, JAIME

Rural?
Hum! You paste.

-4

# 39, JDX

July 18, 2008, at 10:59.

eeeeejjejeje this manic! you're a phenomenon!
less bad that my girlfriend I do not put to the test, since she works in an advisory, auditing and administrative touches ... so I can teach little q, rather asks me opinions or ask me things, or I to her, and I have only 2 answers for her:
1 - jajajajajaaj
2 - can be ...
so, too q q tell you the same thing, I learn more, in this, our world and as complex as economic, as complex (no offense to Forero) as the female brain.
- Could be a poll: q think that is more complicated, the economy, or women? jjajajaja

pd Maño20 thanks to remember the regulars .... XD
you only have failed to appoint the missing, and in their day were very frequent in this bloc, OQ now are not so much as: Luis Mario, Cerberus, Chinese, Liz, frank,
village people,sopelmar,iceman, deshojandomargarita…etc…..
y me dejaré muchos yo tambien…

# 40 , Anónimo

18 de Julio de 2008, a las 11:00.

Sigo con la mía… (Ya lo sé; soy un pelín pesao) Comprad petroleo sobre planos. Las malas lenguas dicen que son maniobras especulativas pero ni caso. El petroleo nunca baja!

# 41 , Bea.

18 de Julio de 2008, a las 11:05.

Para tranchetillo.
Si te comunican el despido no pueden obligarte a coger vacaciones.
Deberían formar parte del finiquito.
Yo no firmaría y en todo caso, si firmara por cualquier tipo de presión por parte de la empresa, pondría no conforme, para después estudiar las medias a tomar.
Pero tienes que ser tú el que decida que te beneficia más, sí coger las vacaciones y callarte o exigir que te las paguen.
Saludos.

# 42 , Maño H20

18 de Julio de 2008, a las 11:09.

#34, Carlos Lopez

Gracias genio. Y que tengas buenas vacaciones.

Pero…. y si tenemos un sobresalto económico en tu ausencia…. ¿que hacemos?

Salu2

# 43 , Deimos Fenix

18 de Julio de 2008, a las 11:12.

¿Alguien tiene acciones de Unión Fenosa? ¿y de ACS?
Si es así un recomiendo:

No vendáis aún, todavía falta un poco de margen de subida (y no quiero pisarte el puesto Gurú, sin acritud)

# 44 , jaime

18 de Julio de 2008, a las 11:12.

que si F.lipo que ya sabemos que eres del PP Y de ciudad, tb que vas con la cabeza rapada pero no quiero volver a empezar esta discusion.

-12

# 45 , Sin casa

18 de Julio de 2008, a las 11:12.

Con la de pisos vacíos que hay en la ciudad, con la de pisos vacíos que hay, especuladores de mierda, INMOBILIARIAS de mierda
Que se coman todos esos pisos que nos han intentado meter y si te quejabas un poco que fuese un poco caro ellos te mandaban a ti a la mierda Por eso que aguanten sin vender lo mismo que nos han dejado sin poder comprar un piso donde poder VIVIR ( no especular )

-2

# 46 , jaime

18 de Julio de 2008, a las 11:14.

POR CIERTO RURALCAJA si RURAL¡¡¡¡¡¡ RIENE UNA HIPOTECA A EU,39 Y 0,25 DE C.APERTURA, 0 COMISON DE ESTUDIO, ASI QUE SIIIII SOY DE RURALCAJA PASA ALGO?

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# 47 , Deimos Fenix

18 de Julio de 2008, a las 11:16.

¿Alguien tiene acciones de Unión Fenosa?
Si es así un recomiendo:

No vendáis aún, todavía falta un poco de margen de subida (y no quiero pisarte el puesto Gurú, sin acritud)

Por cierto, que bonito queda hoy el gráfico del Sr Euribito, ya ha desaparecido, en el tiempo y ¿en la memoria? ese DOOM´S DAY, el 6/6/8, con esa escalada Tourmalet y ese aconyone de personal….
NO LO DEBEMOS OLVIDAR, cuando el abuelo de Heidi abre la boca, los cipotecadillos temblamos

-3

# 48 , POM

18 de Julio de 2008, a las 11:17.

Ayer me llegó un cargo nuevo de una caja de 3 euros cada 6 meses por depósito. El depósito lo tengo hace años y sin cargos. Este cargo aparece de nuevo y yo me pregunto:

¿Pueden ponerme este cargo de golpe? He de revisar el contrato pero si hubiera algo ya lo habrian cobrado.

¿Necesitará esta caja dinerete para aumentar o no reducir tanto sus beneficios como consecuencia de esta crisis o como se llame?

¿Si toma decisiones unilaterales son legales? ¿puedo tomar mi decision unilateral de ir al banco y decidir que a partir de ahora me den el 40% de interés?

Me parece que poco les queda de tenerme como cliente.

Saludos,

# 49 , Deimos Fenix

18 de Julio de 2008, a las 11:17.

Sr CLOPEZ, ¿porqué el hilo ha echo un scrach? pa lante y pa tras…

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# 50 , F.lipo

18 de Julio de 2008, a las 11:18.

#46, jaime

Y como comisión de apertura te obligan a llevar boina, entrecejo peludo y un garrote de alcornoque ?

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