¿Saber Winning or administer know?

As important as knowledge is to earn money to manage, even dare I say it is more important to know that manage to win it. Many times I wonder why people are pulling more than 40 hours a week working to earn money and not once managed to spend even a minute, what makes the bank so that inflation will eat.

The consolation is that it happens to everyone, a week ago left u n study of the Players Association and the NBA provides that 60% of the players of the American League are in a state of bankruptcy five years after its withdrawal .

Let us look deep into the case of Scottie Pippen.

Everything good that Pippen was the player of what is wrong investor. In less than five years has lost $ 27 million in investments and will be ruinous debts pile up

We see that not only need to know how to manage your fortune but it is also imperative to find people you trust.

Pippen gave $ 17 million in 2000 to his personal adviser, Robert J. Lunn, and his signing of the investment but never returned.

And to that, we must add that it is gafado.

While half the world makes a fortune by investing in the brick, the former player has lost more than a million dollars in the sale of his mansion in Portland of 5,700 square meters. Pippen bought his luxury mansion (six full bathrooms, three toilets, basketball court, gym, sauna, luxury kitchen ...) in 2000 for four million dollars and sold it last month for less than three.

Therefore, the recipe to make gold is as follows: Earning money well managed + + + Having people be trusted to luck. Easy, no?. And is that gold is now very well paid and that yesterday touched the highest exceed 950 dollars per ounce. There is too much speculation lately in raw materials.

Perhaps the reason that people do not spend time on the economy is because it is difficult to understand, for that the ECB has created an animated video explaining the dangers of inflation.

And like Friday, today touches that space that I invented to write less and is the "Comment of the Week" this time the prize is that we pay the costs of cancellation of the mortgage, with the sole condition that these are free.

The winner is "mortgaged indigent"

I am unworthy more each day.
The Currito to walk the mortgage is so fired this (is not it pays or does not have the right to decent housing?), Get the pan (do you eat?) Rising gasoline (do we have to buy a donkey to go to work to pay?) ...
We listened economic news and made us tremble and the hardest of all we are puppets in a world in which we are not allowed to play.
We can change government but there will always be a top casino with a roulette wheel when the change of an index indicates ah! fuck you that your not gonna get to the end of the month, and your son can not go to the pool, and as you keep complaining apretaremos over his belt and see if you have to change shoes and tells you that you are small.
While I see the numbers of heart programs (if I'm sorry, I am a husband more than this country besides minister of economy of the republic independent from my house) and I see it as the kings mounted on a vacation in Majorca (I, with a little luck go to a night Moya, who is the hamburguesería my neighborhood, and can ask the special Campero), his yachts, his travels ...
Then listen aid to countries outside my fridge while I look sad, I never give you happen to my neighbor, and less thinking about it can be a little corrupt, the food of my son!
And I wonder, is it that we are always the same Gili ... we have to lift the country and pay the consequences of a disastrous economic policies, a total lack of sanity (because here is committed to the cat?.
The saddest of all, is that I'm complaining here because it's the only thing that remains for me, because I can do little to tarados that handle my pockets beyond my house.
a salute to all

Hopefully, politicians, who are now campaigning and debates, one day put his feet on the ground, and to make a return here to see first hand the reality.

Good weekend to all!

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# 1, Carlos Lopez

February 22, 2008, at 9:20.

Incidentally, SI can speak today of the debate, Solbes and Pizarro play a pelín politics, because I think that's the story of the day.

# 2, Ano-mum

February 22, 2008, at 9:26.

1 Solbes Pizarro 0

I honestly expected more from Pizarro.

No longer leaves the question shows that you're not a robot? 1 +3 =?

-2

# 3, Kane

February 22, 2008, at 9:28.

Without a doubt, I think the greatest benefit of the banks are the great number of people who have put their savings without having any interest in them. I would not go away until more than a year ago started reading this forum, had 10 thousand thousand eurillo is an account with an interest of 0.1%. Like my grandmother and my father.

But that very little people know very economically administered. I now I'm going to include in that if, and half of mine friends and family or do not know half of what I do that is almost nothing.

# 4, scaly

February 22, 2008, at 9:32.

Well, I also won votes because Solbes

A Pizarro he looked upset, with some schemes too rigid, and that Solbes was only able to pull the disputed program. Just say you missed something the stick "but mine has flowers"

What I saw was ragpicker well as the graphics that were taught to rasqui ... I remember one strip Dilbert

# 5, LAMBERET

February 22, 2008, at 9:34.

Because if you let us talk about politics (and I am one of those undecideds that all politicians ...) What do you explain this phrase Solbes?
"Inflation is more important, which is not for the oil and foodstuffs, has gone down."
Is it because he wanted to play down the post the other day on the CPI real?
Because we are going, I will be able to take off to travel, buy jewelry, stretch a few more months of Curro shirts with fists before Rozados renew them, ... But I do not think we can, as commented "mortgaged indigent," off to eat and go to work (Go stick the other day to fill up with my pole, 60 € instead of the usual 45, while it is true that the gas station almost overflows)

PS: Carlos, under my Firefox 2.0, the text box where you write comments like this, is wider than the column where it is, not to be the last characters of each line to write it.

# 6, Gus

February 22, 2008, at 9:35.

Buenos dias,

A consultilla, 22 today has not come out in the BOE's Euribor previous month (January). You should always leave the 22 or may be delayed?

Is that I review my mortgage on March 5 ... ..

Greetings.

# 7, Orlando

February 22, 2008, at 9:37.

In fact, I expected that today's topic was the debate.

I think Solbes dominated the debate with comfort, Pizarro had to pull ETA, and Solbes did not even have to get compensation for Pizarro in Endesa. That gives an idea of the mastery of the situation that had everyone.

# 8, XaviXL

February 22, 2008, at 9:41.

Hello everybody.

This is my first post in this forum (even if you read very often)
I include myself among those who do not know how to administer the money, why will not I have no idea of economics? neither of the options that exist.
I guess that I will not be the only person who reads this forum and this happens, so that the whole world in general and I in particular, we would be grateful if you that if you know that we dierais or simply us consejillos few different options available to say is not an ordinary account in "La Caixa" (or other)

Thank you very much.

+11

# 9, pepe

February 22, 2008, at 9:41.

The truth is that Pizarro saw him ignorant of many important issues, and say it to abolish the ministry of housing, remove the item from russet or the subject of terrorism so that they escanter is simply pathetic. Think we are jackass.

With a person like Solbes I would be calmer. He gave a good look at Pizarro.

# 10, thanks annuity mortgage zp

February 22, 2008, at 9:43.

Managing a country is like running a home, and the rulers have no idea, they see money and throw it, it's as if I have to eat and I just buy a jersey of 300 €. This is going from bad to worse.
I'm not going to go out and vote, to be all the shit, I just want to get the teat of the cow to suck, that's why so much interest and have meanwhile come face but lie to everyone. Go now!

+12

# 11, UNOMA

February 22, 2008, at 9:47.

Solbes clear that controls the economic issue. Whenever you enter as ninistro economy soars:
1) Inflation
2) Unemployment
3) The external debt
4) Subsidies
5) The public expenditure

Good thing he did not allow devualuar currency for the fourth time in his life because he has the power to control the Euro, but that ... ..

So I also mastered the debate, I would be very comfortable.

A greeting.

+11

# 12, Fausto

February 22, 2008, at 9:48.

# 9, thanks annuity mortgage zp

Mortgage life because you wanted to, you said no zp with a gun ... .. what to read ... ... ..

+10

# 13, frank

February 22, 2008, at 9:51.

Best of all, first let me emphasize all the comments made here about the debate, for me the clear winner was Pizarro (because although it says it was altered, so as not to be watching the economy like this, we should all be) , Which was commented that the only ways to deal with this crisis in order to lift something our economy, just as Solbes statistics pulled from old, leaving implied that no taxes be no change in economic planning, and the gentlemen who are going downhill and without brakes.

If you throw in statistics or past history, I remind you that once this gentleman and almost brought the country to ruin his showing little idea of economics, and as Spaniards that we are unique encounter twice in the same stone (or animals) we and place it again at the helm of our economy, in order to draw their individual consequence ... ...

Good weekend to all.

# 14, moebius

February 22, 2008, at 9:52.

Good morning liberals

Go look it yesterday "The Godfather" Solbes to Pizarro,
conqueror of the latter only has the name, and the record
I'm like a good liberal with the thesis of Pizarro, dog is that the response he gave to the question of how it will amantener public spending by reducing taxes, we can not respond with rhetoric.
Every good liberal should know that faced with lower taxes, increases the indirect collection of VAT as a result of increased consumption, do not you come with me to reform the floor ANV .... That is for the rallies, not for an economic debate.
I have not been dfraudado Pizarro "Mr Burns," I expected more from him, I begin to believe that it has been a patch to plug the hole de Rato, and the absence of the "eyebrow" Gallardón.
I'm 4 anita beginning to fear more than ZP.

Bad times ahead for the Liberals.

# 15, _Dhany_

February 22, 2008, at 9:53.

Buenos dias,

Frankly, I do not know if Pizarro was a bit slow; me explain:
Solbes said that everything is the fault of oil and its price, which should have attacked Pizarro (or call them what you will) dicendo that if they can show off the state coffers filled because we are a crushing tax on the oil itself.
Before: oil at 30 dollars; taxes = 30 x 0.16 = 4.8
now: oil at 90 dollars; taxes = 90 x 0.16 = 14.4

The truth is not the rate applied to it, but the rule of three goes well. Is this to say and do not know how to attack it in a debate? That lower these taxes as they climb in oil, and if you come back down to rise, so the Currito equal and the state would still collect the same.

A greeting,

+29

# 16, mario

February 22, 2008, at 9:55.

Nobody says EYE CLOSED of Solbes?
If Freud were alive ... That is what we did not want to see Solbes friend?

# 17, Orlando

February 22, 2008, at 9:55.

# 10: I talk of debate. We repeat slogans such as parrots were left with aspiring politician.

# 18, UnCurrante

February 22, 2008, at 9:56.

I start by acknowledging that I did not see the debate between Solves and Pizarro.
But is that I do not want to go into their game. I know what they're saying is not nor will it have anything to do with what they have done or will do. It simply finds it difficult to try and fool them vote.

As I do not trust any political intent is to assess what his actions from either the government or from the opposition and intuit what really made in each case, apart from blood to all.

What we do not understand is that there is enough bigotry rooted in Spanish society. I know that it is bad to generalize, but many people defends his political party as to defend its football. And it should not be so. Because so few others are as tired of deceive, manipulate, and ... it seems that, as these are my people, we must justify it. These elections seem the election of a football team: Well, if I vote for my myself to ficharé Kaká, because I Ronaldinho, because I Casillas to ...

The truth is that I do not know who I will vote yet. I know I'm going to vote. But I know that I do not trust any of them, and that likely to continue with the metaphor, vote for a team that is in form and, above all, play good football and not focus on results.

+44

# 19, erg

February 22, 2008, at 9:56.

# lameberte me too I was with that phrase, I like the majority of the population 0 player of economy, as has been said out there, is that there are several types of inflation one for each thing ?????

# Gus, the Euribor has no fixed date.

# 20, scaly

February 22, 2008, at 10:04.

# 14, _Dhany_

I do not think that was a valid response. As far as I know, what we nailed a tax on oil is much more than in the VAT, and no government is going to cut you that. If you look all that promising tax cuts are (lots of pasta and very easy), and it always ends up being at the expense of ride on the other hand

Or does anyone still believe the politicians we lowered taxes?

+11

# 21, laia25

February 22, 2008, at 10:05.

Good morning!
The debate clearly dominated Solbes. A Pizarro he looked very nervous, and at least to me, that does not give me much confidence ...

What if I realized, is talking about how the same data, each in its own way the makeup (as commented the other day Clopez the article).
Pizarro came out with negative data in unemployment, and Solbes answered with positive data from the No of employees, and with almost everything.
A spectator who are trying to view the debate in an objective, ACAV becoming the "Picha a monopoly," because the two parties do data between them are opposites, but not contradictory.

For me, no doubt, I liked a lot more with Solbes difference, but it is alomejor do not see it in an objective ...

And commenting, too, if you take seems to validate the response of ... Pizarro. "Back then I was not in the game ..."

+12

# 22, Bhaal

February 22, 2008, at 10:09.

Good morning!

The truth is that yesterday's debate was a bit poor, with Solbes with an eye to the Virula, the economy had given him a good punch and Pizarro rigid, it shows that they still are not accustomed to the magazine business policies, in line with expansion Pizarro I cane with the crisis, but leaves other surveys winner Solbes, in my humble opinion Solbes is more and more political liar and gave him a cane Pizarro at the political level, but Pizarro spoke of what he had to do at the People, and of the crisis, which concerns all while the other is dedicated to reiterate that if in the past, that if blah blah ... though quite matched each won with more knows, one in politics and another in economics , To which you prefer? lol

Indeed the video of the ECB, the ECB's monster I've seen by cotizalia, is very good, more than a borreguillo would have appreciated seeing a couple of years ago, so you know, better late than never, see you surely learn as if to erase small erais once life! (there will be a second part with the Euribor as the 5th rider of the apocalypse?)

Sincerely, Chapo clopez

Euribor burn them all

# 23, laia25

February 22, 2008, at 10:18.

# 10, thanks annuity mortgage zp

He blamed the miss zp take a mortgage for life.
Misrepresent that you're not going to go out and vote.

So do not solve anything, that's not the attitude ...

+22

# 24, D. Manuel Pizarro Moreno

February 22, 2008, at 10:23.

I have to admit that Mr Solbes gave me a brutal beating (up antena3 said that I lost)

I looked sticks and was not where it came from, but the blame is to negotiate with ETA and different formulas to support the family, because we are a force calmly and seek contact and not the differences, and blah, blah, blah, blah ... .

# 25, myself

February 22, 2008, at 10:26.

Solbes will have to be forbidden by soporific, left us a crisis in 1996 and now leaves us just another (that happened) .... We moved the debate between the roles and looking bored with the sheep with his voice. Only the patch was missing in the eye for what is best represent their party.

+13

# 26, Carlos Lopez

February 22, 2008, at 10:30.

This is a good example of how not to manage the money:
http://www.kostarof.es/kostarof/foros/forum_posts.asp?TID=103929

# 27, Caligurris

February 22, 2008, at 10:31.

# mortgaged outraged
I agree with almost everything on your complaints, but when you say "I am tired of those who handle my pockets tarados" I think if you are a participant in the payment of taxes that allows you to make that comment.

-4

# 28, Chinese

February 22, 2008, at 10:34.

I do not follow debate ...

# 25, myself
precisely in the years 95-98 were the largest economic efforts that I remember. meet the Maastricht convergence criteria was, for me, the best things made in democracy (and made both widgets, in the beginning, as in the final pp).

by the way, you wonder how Pizarro was going to grow jobs? I ask him for the estimates suggest that for every house built will not lose 2.5 jobs?

# 29, Resignao

February 22, 2008, at 10:37.

I do not see him, only the summary of antenna 3 after. I wanted not sour the night watching how the two are not contradictory to say bad data, statistics wearing his plot and not telling the truth, only half. But I think that in election campaign you have to propose solutions for the future and, as antenna 3, it won Pizarro. I am not worth what you've done but what you do.
On the other hand, Solbes gives me no confidence, starting as early as the time Gonzalez us the trouble. And it's not for nothing, but now the economy is not going to Rosita. And if it amounts to what the eye Solver, which is the mystery of the day ...

Incidentally, yesterday called Cajasegovia, where I have my mortgage and some ahorrillos. I asked for a deposit that would appetizing:

-guaranteed deposit of 50% of capital to 6-6,5% for 12 months.
-secured repository of the other 50% to 25% of the capital of the revaluation of the EuroStoxx 50 to 18 months.
both with penalties for early cancellation.

deposits of 3 to 6 months with a 4% without penalty for early cancellation.

The other option that deck is open an account at ING and give me a succulent interest.

Please comment ... thank you.

-2

# 30, JM

February 22, 2008, at 10:40.

Good morning, is the first time I write in this forum, although what I read is often out there that says it is not known exactly taxation of diesel and what you can clarify;

The taxes on diesel motor fuel are:

0302 euros per liter for all of Spain, in addition to this tax is the IVMH, which stretch as the state is 0024 per liter and in some regions is a stretch of autonomy, which varies depending on the autonomous community in which the sale , Is at least Decree 0326 per liter.

In addition to the 16% VAT.

In the subsidized diesel fuel tax per liter is 0.08471, including IVMH.

greetings

+24

# 31, JAC

February 22, 2008, at 10:40.

Who cares what they say about themselves or others.
The truth is that I see politics as the means of "better to see who says what evil we have done"
But, Are you really sure that some politicians know what to do to make it "light" what we are going to fall over?

# 32, Jose

February 22, 2008, at 10:45.

Everything is summed up in one sentence in Pizarro, Solves when he referred to some statistical data and percentage macroeconomics of this country, Pizarro replied:

"No, you will know the data. That is the Minister of Economy"

Menuda response, is to die. And this gentleman says it wants to be minister of economy? Pathetic again

# 33, Attila, King of the year

February 22, 2008, at 10:46.

Now we're in campaign, I would ask you please please please vote for Pizarro.

Estonian are the reasons:
1 - down taxes (especially the rich) and thus increase inflation and decrease benefits.
2 - Betting on a model of the Chilean pension.
3 - Do not reform the pisito of the ministers, nor pay to terrorists, as well said last night.

My God, do not fit of joy in imagining a world ruled by Pizarro ...

That will be pain, a lot of pain ...

# 34, Resignao

February 22, 2008, at 10:48.

Well, looking eleconomista see what I find. According to these, they say that it appears that analysts on the other side of the pond do not bet on a stagflation as in the 70s, but by deflation as in Japan, because rising prices and rising unemployment have made the appetite for credit has disappeared and this will be even lower rates are not among again to seek debt and can reach very low rates without raising the market for credit. I hit the link for which you're interested:

http://www.eleconomista.es/mercados-cotizaciones/noticias/370778/02/08/De-verdad-vamos-a-entrar-en-una-fase-de-estanflacion-como-en-los-anos- 70.html

Are they really going to enter a phase of stagflation as in the 70s?

# 35, Paola

February 22, 2008, at 10:57.

# 10, thanks zp annuity mortgage,

only your name shows us how little knowledge you have. The blame for hipotecarte for life is not the ZP, perhaps you have it, following the motto of many Spaniards, "before it dead simple," you've bought something that perhaps can not pay.

I did not see the debate, not for lack of desire but because even if it appears to lie in the twenty-first century, there are some television channels that in some places does not reach the signal, as is the case of my people (Vacarisses) in Barcelona.

+14

# 36, Attila, King of the year

February 22, 2008, at 11:01.

For if you are interested, I leave with you a great summary of the blog's sometimes brilliant, sometimes recalcitrant neoliberal Marti Saballs:

http://app2.expansion.com/blogs/web/saballs.html?opcion=1&codPost=43499

I see pain, a lot of pain ...

# 37, Fausto

February 22, 2008, at 11:02.

Ojala has deflation .... I think it is as if prices fall sharply and the types, so if it lasts a anita or two

-5

# 38, Bhaal

February 22, 2008, at 11:03.

# 29

If you look at funds or deposits, look at Citibank, which offers good returns on deposits, I've got my ahorrillos at Citibank, in a 3-month deposit to 6.82% APR, with no penalty for leaving before, except that gives less interest, ah! The current account is paid to 4.1% always, ING is up to 4.5% in June and then to 3% ... I hope to have been useful,

Greetings!

+11

# 39, AFERNET

February 22, 2008, at 11:05.

It goes without saying that I will not vote for either of the two, and after seeing it last night.

A Solbes had it more or less "blocks" of earlier, Pizarro had no taste and truth if that is the star signing of the PP for elections and for allegedly directing the country's economy ... we apañaos.

In my view, which I consider quite objective because as I said I am not in favor of neither one nor the other, I feel that Solbes was imposed clearly Pizarro, was much more prepared and had a lot more mischief, and of course has many more tables, a Pizarro saw him nervous, hesitant and repetitive, just knew refer to the unemployed that have been generated in the last six months and casualties in social security, and I wonder myself from ignorance are the deaths not are low in social security? I know that when you go to the unemployed do not give you low in the social sec.

Solbes had it easy before a rival inexperienced in these duties, to Pizarro he was a great debate. Solbes was limited to throwing balls away (that neither Casillas) without giving any clear solutions to the current situation and simply giving details of the past, the era of fat, without giving any clear proposals to address the future of lean and fuel for low blows to break rival, Pizarro and simply repeating over and over again the same arguments in automaton plan to be passed by the trip that was put himself in the past with public statements and denying evidence, a little consistency please, if you think a because the thing you think and you're done, nothing happens, it is very respectable but not tell me a day other blue and white as further measures to help citizens who are in disadvantaged economic situation, I would delete heritage and transmission assets? what will have to do something with the other? Mr Pizarro that you can fool most ignorant people who do not know what it is neither tax nor the heritage of transmission assets does not mean that they can deceive us all and these measures will only encourage those who are like you, to who have more, who handled million in their personal accounts.

As it seems that I have attacked more Pizarro wanted to emphasize that Solbes was limited to retaliate and Pizarro easily to give figures of the past in times of boom, but not clarified how it intends to tackle what it yield to us, whether or not caused by the government But that is another debate that if you want retomamos another day.

Greetings.

+34

# 40, Fausto

February 22, 2008, at 11:11.

Forgive my ignorance but .... Pizarro not to Endesa shareholders meeting? That ... it was a cult and everyone said they had reason?

I suppose that I also had to deal with him, but did not explain what they would charge me ....

# 41, JAC

February 22, 2008, at 11:13.

1 VKO 4,116 -0,002
1 kk 4180 0000
2 kk 4282 0002
3 kk 4374 0001
4 kk 4374 0000
5 kk 4,372 -0,003
6 kk 4,371 -0,005
7 kk 4,369 -0,008
8 kk 4,368 -0,009
9 kk 4,366 -0,011
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11 kk 4,367 -0,011
12 kk 4,367 -0,011

BAJADITA !!!!!!!!!!

# 42 squad

February 22, 2008, at 11:13.

A little joy for the weekend.

MEETING 22/02/2008 11:01

Middle type
Euribor Week 4.116
1 Month Euribor 4.18
Euribor 2 Months 4.282
3 Month Euribor 4.374
6 Month Euribor 4.371
12 Month Euribor 4.367

Eonia 21/02/2008 4,015

# 43 , Fausto

22 de Febrero de 2008, a las 11:15.

Ja me maaaaaaaaaaten por la bajadiiiiiiiita.

No me lo explico y eso que la inflacion en francia se ha disparado mas que en españa en enero!

# 44 , Resignao

22 de Febrero de 2008, a las 11:18.

Gracias Bhaal, me miraré lo del citibank, pero es que me da un poco de repelus, no lo conozco y no me aporta confianza.

# 45 , laia25

22 de Febrero de 2008, a las 11:20.

#39, AFERNET

Buen análisis.

# 46 , Resignao

22 de Febrero de 2008, a las 11:20.

Bueno y ahora que alguien me explique esto:

se devalúa el dolar respecto del euro y…. ¿¿¿¡¡¡el petróleo baja!!!???

no lo entiendo

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# 47 , SoSa

22 de Febrero de 2008, a las 11:20.

Paola,

Me parece increible que digas que si nos hipotecamos, es porque nos compramos pisos que no podemos pagar!

Yo, en mi caso, teniendo un sueldo (que creo que es más o menos decente), y trabajando desde hace 10 años (lo que me ha dado tiempo a tener unos ahorrillos), sólo he podido aspirar a comprarme un “apartamento” de 40 metros cuadrados. Y, te aseguro, que aunque no estoy hipotecada hasta los 90 años, sí lo estoy 3/4 partes de mi vida!!!!!

Y es que no todos los ciudadanos tienen derecho a una vivienda digna, como dice la constitución??

En fin, será que como se ha comentado en el artículo de hoy, que no sé administrar mi dinero, aunque muchas veces, yo misma me sorprendo de lo mucho que lo estiro!!

O será que no todos somos tan afortunados y podemos comprarnos cosas que estén a nuestro alcance.

Saludos….

# 48 , Ano-nimo

22 de Febrero de 2008, a las 11:20.

Mirad la diferencia de titulares:

Publico:
Solbes gana con comodidad

La razón:

Pizarro destapa ante Solbes el verdadero alcance de la crisis económica

ABC
Pizarro muestra los graves problemas de la economía frente a un Solbes a la defensiva

+19

# 49 , Ghonsso

22 de Febrero de 2008, a las 11:21.

Buenos días chicos.

A ver, lo primero, a la pregunta que realiza #21 Laia25, me parece bastante bien la respuesta de Pizarro de “Por aquel entonces yo no estaba en el partido…”, para mí, implica que Pizarro tiene poder en el partido y dice que esas cosas no sucederán mientras él esté ahí.

Realmente sí veo como ganador del debate de ayer a Solbes, y podrá saber toda la economía que queramos y dejar a Pizarro hecho un manojo de nervios, pero mientras que no le den el mismo poder que Pizarro ya parece ostentar en el partido, siempre habrá un ZP que entregue cheques bebés y 400€ por voto, en lugar de invertir en una red de comunicaciones decentes o en los incipientes problemas de la agricultura y la ganadería.

+16

# 50 , Magat

22 de Febrero de 2008, a las 11:23.

Bueno simplemente muy bueno como todos los dias de un funcionari algo bueno q leer.

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