Everything is psychology

Nobel Daniel Kahneman is a psychologist who won the Nobel Prize for economics in 2002 by the introduction of knowledge from psychological research into economic science. He studied primarily the taking of decisions in cases of insecurity and concluded that investors in the stock market, for example, sell for reasons not rational, but emotional: dispose of their shares when markets go down, fearing to lose even more if do not sell. The curious thing of all is that the primary motivation for investors is the fear (an emotion) and not making money (something rational). Thus, an investor would prefer not to lose rather than win 100 euros, which implies an asymmetry in decision-making.

To prove it, I'm going to make some assumptions.
First choose between:

And now choose between:

In the first situation the majority of subjects opt for the alternative A, despite the fact that the alternative B has higher expected probability.

Paradoxically more than 90% chose alternative B in the second position. This pattern is constant, people try to avoid risks when looking for a win, but if you choose the risk is to avoid a loss.

Roulette It is interesting to know this behavior to negotiate and realize the feelings of the other party. The fear of losing is quite strong. Imagine for a moment that you € 6,000 playing roulette in a "Red and Black." If ganáis, surely you subidón the last few days, but if you lose the remorse will endure for many weeks (not to mention the anger of your partner).

Having learned this, we can try to understand why many times the upgrades are so slow and falls so fast.

Closely related to this subject, I read that in Cotizalia The financial turmoil fall in risk aversion levels seven years ago.

All these fears have led to changes in investment strategies. Thus, there has been an increase in the cash within existing portfolios. The cash has reached on average 4.7% of capital compared to 3.9% from January. Furthermore, according to this survey, 41% of those surveyed were sobreponderados in cash, the highest percentage since the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11.

If you already read my mother, that money is very miedica.

At the moment we have today does not seem scared, as if the economy had some kind of disorder piscológico a day rose from depression and other euphoric. For example, we see that the Japanese ended with a rise in the Nikkei's 4.3%, which means the highest since 6 years ago. As for Spain's GDP grew by 3.5% in the fourth quarter of 2007, more or less than expected.

Swiss If those who are going to endorse what are the Swiss, yesterday in the midst of the storm gave them to raise rates. Today one of its largest banks, UBS has confessed to a loss of 11,300 million dollars in the fourth quarter of the year as a result of the crisis in subprime mortgages, has also announced that it will replenish some 13,700 million dollars and has reiterated that 2008 will be another difficult year for the entity. We see that here is not saving anyone.

Yesterday comentábamos Warren Buffet's strategy of buying cheap and then sell expensive (innovative, we) may now be a good time to exit the credit card because the dividend yield of the stock market is the most attractive in 15 years. Although clear, we must have good jobs and with a heart-proof tachycardia.

So in conclusion, you get a dilemma for those of Kahneman, to see what haríais:

PS: If you are interested in studying Kahneman, so you can download (in English) here

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# 1, Raul (hipotecadodeporvida)

February 14, 2008, at 9:53.

jo .. it's hard ... but I would stop paying the mortgage to see the Rolling Stones, that I got it clear.
is something at once emotional and irrational .. ... but when I hear Brown Sugar .... mmm, I lose the head .. jeje

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# 2, Sosa

February 14, 2008, at 9:59.

Well ... I would buy the entry with the credit card ... but it is clear that if he had not lost € 1,000 in cash, the pleasure of seeing the Rolling Stones would have been multiplied by 2 ... ..

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# 3, roman_cillo

February 14, 2008, at 10:01.

# 2, Anonimus

Esi if that is a drop of assets on the computer in question. jejeje.

Seriously, I think this is not the forum to talk about it. clopez, and a forum on soccer as applied to economics? (that is, as all who have invested in the dough ball and never lose your money pasta)

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# 4, abel

February 14, 2008, at 10:04.

I begin to hear more assiduously rolling Mick if it is decided to pay my mortgage and end!!

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# 5, abel

February 14, 2008, at 10:06.

hopefully today a slight bajadita ????? or on the contrary will follow the subidita blessed?

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# 6, Carlos Lopez

February 14, 2008, at 10:06.

I deleted the comment futbolero to leave no question ...

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# 7, Euribidor

February 14, 2008, at 10:06.

Today 4.285

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# 8, juan

February 14, 2008, at 10:07.

because if I miss the Euro 1000 I am not going to the chagrin and if I lose the coming three quarters of the same, we see that I run out of the concert.
On the topic of the bag there is one thing I do not understand, you can buy shares at a price, and whether low because people are not expected to sell until it has risen more than the price you bought? or is that the people who invest in stock market only has to profitability in the short term? Because I say that the trend of the stock market is that if this falls into 14,000 to 10,000 and that is go back to climb to recover the 14,000 or not?

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# 9, Paco (Cavallet)

February 14, 2008, at 10:09.

Nor even caught me with the hangover from Sunday I get to see me € 1000 for his "Satanic Majesties".

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# 10, john

February 14, 2008, at 10:09.

by the way today is going to continue to rise until 4347, because there is no confidence in providing the money, and will continue to rise until the end of the month to close about 4.5

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# 11, MadRAM

February 14, 2008, at 10:11.

Well, I would buy the entry, revendería by 2500 € to a pyre that he was desperate to see them and I would go for a walk, to dinner or a drink and pa cottage.

Carlos Lopez, I thought you were going to be more romantic today and show us as any study of love to affect the economy, if it exists, of course. As if no one remembers today is Valentine, you are still in time to avoid being wrong with your couple (those who are).

Greetings to all.

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# 12, john

February 14, 2008, at 10:11.

Gillie and his "Satanic Majesties" or anybody, no singer who deserves to pay 1000 euros, which costs a lot to win joer

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# 13, forgiveness

February 14, 2008, at 10:12.

forgiveness, Switzerland has raised rates?

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# 14, mercu3

February 14, 2008, at 10:15.

I would therefore like MadRam, buy purchase from 1000 € but no one, if not 4 or 5, then revendería Todites with its attendant benefits in resale

but call me usurer .. that's not the bag? is pure economics ZD

I also believe that raising another little bit today, 4340

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# 15, Vinuesa

February 14, 2008, at 10:15.

I'm trying to excel on the mortgage loan version 3
But according to move the quotas each time there are more differences with decimals and will accumulate until the end does not match the reality

It may be that there are 2 ways of calculating 360/365 days?

What excel to be chosen to see if it is for this reason

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# 16, amateur

February 14, 2008, at 10:16.

Once (many years ago), my sister and I lost the entries that We had just purchased for a concert by The Cure. It is a trauma that still accompanies me, because we had no money to buy them again, devastated and cried for hours ...

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# 17, mortgaged indigent

February 14, 2008, at 10:21.

After rising as much mortgage (in the last few months almost 200euros) started to leave out on Saturday night, then ended up meals on Sundays, learning to teñirme hair, is no more compulsive shopping, breakfast at my house, no I bought books, CDs ... and the shrimp in my house by Christmas visit, I hear the announcement of almond and feel nostalgia for changing the seafood pasta and hamburgers ... and if all this is seasoned with hysteria than to be like the Euribor to see tomorrow ... 1000 ... rollings to buy into diversified offerings in supermarkets and according to early redemption

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# 18, poor enculator

February 14, 2008, at 10:25.

Oh ... decisions!

The downside of the economy is that we endeavor to analyze it as if it were a science, and I think it is not.
We try to draw conclusions based on mathematical models which in turn are based on assumptions such as the consumer always act in a rational manner and that also has information on the market ... the perfect example of the typical guy who goes to the movies with 10 € and has the option of seeing the movie, popcorn and soda big movie and save € 5, or not seeing the movie and invite a girl I had known in the queue for dinner at McDonalds. ¿Think his head is drawn into a curve of preferences? I think it will draw as much other curves ...
Seriously, how can function as a system based on unreasonable combination of assumptions? I'm thinking of becoming the epistemological anarchism PK Feyerabend, I recommend reading "Against Method," which explains a lot better than me ...
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# 19, john

February 14, 2008, at 10:29.

someone can explain to me what the bag?

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# 20, Carlos Lopez

February 14, 2008, at 10:34.

Regarding the question of the concert.
Most people buy a new entry after having lost the money, but not after having lost the post. Why? Because a mental opens an account to go to the concert and, in the first case, you've already spent on this 1000 €. If you buy another entry, your theater will now be 2000 €, perhaps more than they're willing to spend. But in the second case, you simply load the losses of 1000 € in cash to another mental account. You can cogerlas money holiday next year ...

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# 21, Dr.Divago

February 14, 2008, at 10:37.

"All, all my loves in vain ..." is acojonante but Euro 1000 is a paste and the Stones are forraísimos well that I would take a few drinks at my house while I see him in a concert DVD with the lights off thinking that with songs like this it is hard not to keep listening R'n'R.

With regard to the economic psychology, between pessimism and the euphoria is the indecision that is what prevails now.

Greetings.

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# 22, optimist

February 14, 2008, at 10:38.

# 19, john
"Hey, that the stock market has now fallen Mogollon climb touch him, no?" And the stock market goes up, "hey, who has already climbed enough to see if he now starts to fall again" and the stock market lower.

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# 23, Fausto

February 14, 2008, at 10:42.

Perhaps by this:

The European Central Bank (ECB) has acknowledged the existence of the downward risks to economic growth in the euro zone and an "unusually high uncertainty" about the economy.

As reported by the ECB in its February bulletin, released today, this uncertainty is because the impact is still unknown who will take on the real economy, "the new assessment of risk in financial markets."

The European bank kept interest rates at 4% last week, although analysts believe that with these warnings about the risks of low economic growth for the market prepares for a future cut in the price of money.

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# 24, Ramo

February 14, 2008, at 10:43.

If we act rationally, the stock market would not be a business for some.

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# 25, Paku

February 14, 2008, at 10:48.

Jeje, Madram, a number we thought the same thing. The resale is a good option to recover the pasta ... would say that the entry is an asset with great potential for revaluation ...

I suppose that the performance of securities brokers and dealers make sense. Their commissions are largely related to the benefits that derive their portfolios, making it logical to tie the gains and desperately seeking to recover the lost.

Greetings.

PS: Today the stock market goes up, which will raise the Euribor.

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# 26, poor enculator

February 14, 2008, at 10:49.

To # 20, Carlos Lopez

That is not so sure, one thing is what you would do in that case, and another thing is what you say you would do. In addition, it was statistically possible to study the behavior of subjects in this situation, but from there to draw the conclusion that we think of "separate accounts" ...
It could also be approached from the standpoint of punishment (which we have internalized much because of religion, even non-believers).
If I lose € 1000 (in the bag, for example) do not assume that it is my fault, but of Kerviel and therefore did not deserve any punishment.
If you miss the entrance, the feeling of guilt will fall on my Todito, and the punishment is to miss the concert.
And I propose a 3rd way: If I steal the entry of a knife-edge, all the fault of the thief will, and therefore my feeling is this innocence that I deserve to go to the concert, but have to buy the entrance to MadRAM in the resale by € 2,500 (if I)
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# 27, Fausto

February 14, 2008, at 10:49.

Clopez,

You could get a graphic type of oil the food version? see cereals etc ... I say to make our beloved idea of inflation ... ... .. : S

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# 28, Elisa

February 14, 2008, at 10:50.

Today, the Euribor at 4.28%.
Salu2!

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# 29, scaly

February 14, 2008, at 10:56.

In both cases blasfemaria Pelao to cry and I wonder why the hell I like groups as elitist, then drown in a couple sentences birr

In the next life would have happened to see the Rolling and I would have caught an entry for the reunion of Led Zeppelin, that if those who sell cheap

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# 30, debodinero.com

February 14, 2008, at 10:57.

Well, I think that if one is so crazy as to spend Euro 1000 in an entry for the rolling is that you have to spend some conjin and is considered to be something unique to this concert and would spend, even if that entails running out of holiday ... will not be without.
But from my view, I do not spend more than 100 euros to go to a concert, whether of the rollings or any other material that may be at its height.

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# 31, Fernix

February 14, 2008, at 11:04.

Changing a little Topic'm going to leave an article of almost 2 years ago and, to reflect.

The roster of my father (article in The Country Forges)

'The roster of my father in December 1979 was 38,000 pesetas. He worked as a laborer on a construction site. At the same time he offered to buy a house. He called for a total of 500,000 pesetas for her. Decided not to risk and continue to live in rental system, under conditions very good. It was a modest house but very well located in the heart of a village near Barcelona. A few months after my father and my mother bought a plot in another village in the same province and at least five years of effort had already raised and paid for a house of 120m2.

27 years have passed. In 2006 and in the same town they live in a modest apartment on the outskirts of 75m2 is not found for less than 35 million pesetas, and I'm being very generous.

In 1979 the cost of an apartment was in the order of 14 months' work a pawn of 38,000 pts / month x 14 months = 532.000pts. The salary in 2006 of a new university graduate in computer engineering without professional experience does not reach the 200,000 pesetas per month. In 2006 a modest housing costs 175 monthly (14 annuities !!!!) of a software engineer.
200,000 pts / month x 175 months = 35000000 pts.
Today's youth need to collect 2.5 million pesetas a month to be on equal terms with our parents who bought a house in the early 80s.
2,500,000 pts / month x 14 months = 35 Mill. of pts

The floors in the year 2006 should cost 2.8 billion pesetas for the youth of today are on equal terms with our parents in 1979.
200,000 pts / month x 14 months = 2,800,000 pts

I can not find any adjective in 2006 to describe what my father considered risky in 1979. It is clear that the floors are not going to happen to cost of overnight least 30 times, from 35 to 3 million. It is also clear that I am not going to charge 2.5 million pesetas a month, for very good work and many studies find that you have. The first thing that happens to one is to continue living at home with their parents and save 100% of salary over the next 14 years, by the year 2020 (I rondaré and 40 years old) will have enough money to buy a housing cost in the year 2006 but not, of course, the cost of year 2020. Of course discards the occurrence of this one before making any calculation. While well intentioned get a couple saves 2, 4 or 6 million with a lot of effort in a few years, today will never be able to avoid:

1) Ask for a loan to the bank at 40 or 50 years (if you manage to save 2, 4 or 6 million can reduce the period to 35 - 45 years, 5 years but do not pose virtually nothing when we are talking about half a century of payment). You will realize that not live in a democracy but a dictatorship. The dictator Francisco Franco was not known, but La Caixa, BSCH, Banc de Sabadell, or, in general, 'banking'. You do not even have the freedom to say what you think, for example, your boss, you are not going to be that close the tap and you can not pay the dictator.

2) The other solution is to pay a rent for life. In this case the dictator will be named Juan Garcia, Jose Pablo Perez or the lessor. The situation is no different than 1).

After this reflection does not have the delicacy of a youth who say their problem is that no saves, that was true for you in 1979, was valid even for some young people in 1999, but not in 2006, in 2006 only get more pay impotence, if anything, the boy. The effort of our fathers, no doubt admirable, was not sterile (could obtain housing property in a period of 5 years). The same effort made by us, the children, perhaps only comes to reduce a mortgage in 5 years half a century. The house was never an order to enrich themselves, but to live and how little material you need it. The law of the free market can set the price of plasma TVs to the price you want to ... I do not buy ... but never had to allow that same law set the price of housing, because we all need to live in one, and not everyone can pay. Young people, even those who have higher education, we can not compete. "

Forges, COUNTRY, 2/5/2006

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# 32, CARLOS

February 14, 2008, at 11:13.

Kaikki Euribor 360-korot14.02.2008
Nimi Viim. Muut
1 VKO 4,114 -0,003
1 kk 4179 0001
2 kk 4273 0002
3 kk 4342 0002
4 kk 4338 0002
5 kk 4,335 -0,001
6 kk 4335 0003
7 kk 4334 0004
8 kk 4330 0001
9 kk 4327 0000
10 kk 4326 0000
11 kk 4,325 -0,002
12 kk 4327 0000

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# 33, Fausto

February 14, 2008, at 11:14.

# 31, Fernix

I have been down the lagrimilla ... ... ..

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# 34, Paco (Cavallet)

February 14, 2008, at 11:15.

# 14, mercu3
"I would therefore like MadRam, buy purchase from 1000 € but no one, if not 4 or 5, then revendería Todites with its attendant benefits in resale"

If we thought like me, those tickets you would eat with the potatoes, although I have no doubt that you leave the business round.

Like them out to those who have purchased bricks without mortgaged, and have then resold it has given them the win, and if they can not sell now expect better times, even some of those who expect rebajitas squeezing the rope to continue to build bricks .

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# 35, marron_cillo

February 14, 2008, at 11:18.

News of the EL PAIS

The ECB left the door open to higher rates to warn that the risks for the euro zone increased

http://www.elpais.com/articulo/economia/BCE/deja/puerta/abierta/subida/tipos/advertir/riesgos/zona/euro/aumentan/elpepueco/20080214elpepueco_6/Tes

I can only say one thing .... JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODER WITH THE EXPERTS "rightly UNLESS THE WITCH LOLA.

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# 36, CARLOS

February 14, 2008, at 11:24.

ECB not bothering me! q q I reviewed next month! x please shut up!

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# 37, MadRAM

February 14, 2008, at 11:38.

# 34, Paco (Cavallet)
Jejeje, I think this was going to Mercu3 by the speculator, but if I was going to also tell you that you're not pyre, why not buy my entry (just one). But there is a lot of crazy out there. Anyway, I did not get to the final sell, I would go to the concert and enjoy it, it is assumed that he was willing to pay an exorbitant amount to see them.

I see logic:
a. - Buy and sell entry for 2000: 1 displeasure, not to go to the concert and for losing an afternoon doing the cinnamon.
b. - Buy entry and sell for more than 2000: 1 displeasure by not going to the concert and 1 joy at having won money.
c. - Buy the entry and I'm going to the concert: 1 distaste for losing the money or the entry and 1 joy to see the concert.
d. - I do not buy the entry: 2 dislikes for losing the money or the entry and miss the concert.

Among the by the c I think they are the best options. If anyone sees any more ...

Greetings to all.

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# 38, Carlos Lopez

February 14, 2008, at 11:47.

Oops ... it seems that gave him a heart attack to the server. I had to use the defibrillator.

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# 39, Marina

February 14, 2008, at 11:48.

marron_cillo, you have a problem reading the letters fat?.
In your link puts lower TYPES and not rise.
We are not Paar these scares, man!.
There are risks to the economic development of that increase.

The poor witch Lola not wise, but walks you reading ...

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# 40, Font

February 14, 2008, at 11:50.

The Euribor this online takes a few days that moves less than a goalkeeper of football.

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# 41, marron_cillo

February 14, 2008, at 11:52.

What has changed after I read it. Would be a misprint, but I swear by the eggs .. Trichet pointed to climb (in fact the link, which works correctly, puts:

http://www .... / ECB / left / door / open / upload / .. types.)

Not that I read wrong, is that the country does not know, that's why you put in the post (the experts call it low, and El Pais said that rise)

I feel that you have not seen it, but read, read very well.

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# 42, prehipotecado

February 14, 2008, at 11:53.

# 36, CARLOS
# 35, marron_cillo

/////////////// The ECB left the door open to higher rates to warn that the risks for the euro zone increased
ECB not bothering me! q q I reviewed next month! x shut favor !!/////////////////

read the news guys do not enterais, is just the opposite, the rates go down .!!!!

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# 43, Emilio

February 14, 2008, at 11:55.

Clopez, if instead of the Rolling are the Status Quo, I pay XXDD ..

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# 44, Max

February 14, 2008, at 11:56.

The European Central Bank (ECB) acknowledged the existence of an unusually high degree of uncertainty regarding the prospects for growth in the euro zone and confirmed that risks to economic activity point to the downside. The ECB admits the possibility that the evolution of financial markets have a strong impact on financing conditions.

This smacks of possible drop

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# 45, Paco (Cavallet)

February 14, 2008, at 11:58.

# 35, marron_cillo

Marron_cillo is right, the holder did SUBIDA, while reading the news showed the opposite, and that certainly seems to have realized and have changed the owner.

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# 46, marron_cillo

February 14, 2008, at 12:01.

Thank you very much, and believed he had seen visions uncle UFO or Poltergeist.

If, as said earlier, reading the article implied that down, but the owner put it went up, so what the experts and the witch Lola (with all due respect to Lola, who I see here is very much appreciated by # 39, Marina.

He was just a curious post, nothing more.

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# 47, Fausto

February 14, 2008, at 12:02.

The last lines spoken on hypothetical ascent

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# 48, Terence Hill

February 14, 2008, at 12:03.

"Allways you cannot get what you want ... amigitos"

That he was going to say? ah, if I have offered a mortgage EURB +0.40 1 years or taking dome that reference the index of the boxes that would IRPH -0.20% during 1.5 years as what you see? The IRPH is a tangazo?

Incidentally, I have almost all the dates for the tours of 70, 71, 72, 73, 75, 78 and 81, 82 of the stones in WinMX if algien are interested ...

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# 49, pajaro

February 14, 2008, at 12:06.

Good.

The psychological question in the economy is very important, and usually forgotten. Until that can not be more clear. Now, with the entire roll of the subprime crisis and confidence, is more valuable than ever. And not only increases the psychological value (subjective) but also low, and much, the goal. It is an objective fact that Spain has grown a certain%, but there is talk of crisis. It is an objective fact that oil is cheaper than a few weeks ago, but inflation to singing. Yes, I know that I'm simplifying, but is an example.
With the example of the concert, the two options, if you go to the concert, has cost you $ 2000 (double the other). And if you're not going, you've got $ 1000 and left side of silly. Objectively, the result is the same. But the feeling that you have left, no.

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# 50, sopelmar

February 14, 2008, at 12:08.

These are the ECB with a win ... ...

"This confirms the continued upward pressure on inflation in the short term, by increasing the cost of oil and food, has clarified the entity. Some inflationary pressures that have led to the institution to maintain the rates. In fact, according to analysts, if the circumstances were favorable, the ECB would increase the cost of money.

and a future as uncertain as is that there are people who do not want vague to know what signs might affect the rest of his life

http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2008/02/12/suvivienda/1202831760.html

La financiación puede llegar al 120% en el 65% de los casos, lo que ADICAE denomina ‘hipotecas basura’

si seriamos diputados o senadores lo podria entender porque por cada legislatura , hay ciento y pico mangantes que se llevan su pension vitalicia
http://www.elconfidencial.com/cache/2007/09/20/67_diputados_autoconceden_indemnizacion_elegidos_proximas_generales.html

solo lo comprenderia en el caso de que llegues cansado del trabajo y lo ultimo que quieres hacer es numeros pa ver si me salen las cuentas pa meterme en un piso con este o aquel banco

haber si hay suerte y hoy escucho alguna prupuesta de ayudas a los singles mayores de 30, sin hijos y con ingresos medios , el superhabit tiene que se repartido de forma equitativa , que todos los votos valen igual :-)

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