Bye Bye November

We say goodbye to this tasteless as it began in November, well with the Euribor a little lower, specifically the 4607% but with the same doubts as ever. It has been a month of transition, expectant on the consumption of Christmas and end of the year. However, the news of the day will be "down the Euribor in November for the second consecutive month, but not mortgages"

Posts to make predictions, it is best to analyze the words of Bernanke (and you know, the American Trichet), which returned to insinuate lowered rates on that side of the Atlantic. As if it were a pirate spoke of "winds against" specifically pointed to a tightening in the terms of mortgage loans, a slowdown in the property business, and the sharp price hikes which is affecting prices energy. Recall that the chairman of the EDF call him Ben "Helicopter" Bernanke and here you can see why he is called, though he hit a summary:

In 1969 he published a book by Milton Friedman called The Optimum Quantity of Money where the author describes through an example how to escape deflation and liquidity traps. The assumption Friedman is to pull money from a helicopter to give immediate liquidity to individuals and businesses. The current president of the FED was amazed with this assumption saying that "the government has a fantastic technology called printing press that allows you to create as many dollars as you want without cost. (...) Acting so, the government can reduce the value of the currency in terms of goods and services (...) by creating higher spending and hence positive inflation. "

Already you can see that it gives fear the Americans give them for pressing the button to print money "but saw the value and confidence in its currency that there is every indication that they did so long ago.

Returning to his speech, the question is obvious Europe should lower rates? Are we in the same situation? in The Economist is doing and the question was answered at once: Why did the ECB should not raise interest rates in December?. And the answer lies in the inflation, remember that the goal of the ECB is to ensure price stability over the medium term.

As a curious note, while the prices go up here as the foam we have the Japanese CPI rises in October for the first time in ten months. We have to see what formal workers and those who are Japanese.

So here we have the news of the week and month, I hope and believe that a study showed that men lie more than women. Is that why there are so few women economists? .

Good weekend to all.

Reminder: Rankia sued by Ausbanc consumption. Salido Luis Pineda (Ausbanc), you have splendid majete.

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# 1, Jose Antonio

November 30, 2007, at 9:21.

I have thought of this Forges sent by mail to me in the post ayer.Lo get here also because I think the less curious je, je

The roster of my father

'The roster of my father in December 1979 was 38,000 pesetas. He worked as a laborer on a construction site. At the same time he offered to buy a house. He called for a total of 500,000 pesetas for her. Decided not to risk and continue to live in rental system, under conditions very good. It was a modest house but very well located in the heart of a village near Barcelona. A few months after my father and my mother bought a plot in another village in the same province and at least five years of effort had already raised and paid for a house of 120m2.

27 years have passed. In 2006 and in the same town they live in a modest apartment on the outskirts of 75m2 is not found for less than 35 million pesetas, and I'm being very generous.

In 1979 the cost of an apartment was in the order of 14 months' work a pawn of 38,000 pts / month x 14 months = 532.000pts. The salary in 2006 of a new university graduate in computer engineering without professional experience does not reach the 200,000 pesetas per month. In 2006 a modest housing costs 175 monthly (14 annuities !!!!) of a software engineer.

200,000 pts / month x 175 months = 35000000 pts.

Today's youth need to collect 2.5 million pesetas a month to be on equal terms with our parents who bought a house in the early 80s.

2,500,000 pts / month x 14 months = 35 Mill. of pts

The floors in the year 2006 should cost 2.8 billion pesetas for the youth of today are on equal terms with our parents in 1979.

200,000 pts / month x 14 months = 2,800,000 pts

I can not find any adjective in 2006 to describe what my father considered risky in 1979. It is clear that the floors are not going to happen to cost of overnight least 30 times, from 35 to 3 million. It is also clear that I am not going to charge 2.5 million pesetas a month, for very good work and many studies find that you have. The first thing that happens to one is to continue living at home with their parents and save 100% of salary over the next 14 years, by the year 2020 (I rondaré and 40 years old) will have enough money to buy a housing cost in the year 2006 but not, of course, the cost of year 2020. Of course discards the occurrence of this one before making any calculation. While well intentioned get a couple saves 2, 4 or 6 million with a lot of effort in a few years, today will never be able to avoid:

1) Ask for a loan to the bank at 40 or 50 years (if you manage to save 2, 4 or 6 million can reduce the period to 35 - 45 years, 5 years but do not pose virtually nothing when we are talking about half a century of payment). You will realize that not live in a democracy but a dictatorship. The dictator Francisco Franco was not known, but La Caixa, BSCH, Banc de Sabadell, or, in general, 'banking'. You do not even have the freedom to say what you think, for example, your boss, you are not going to be that close the tap and you can not pay the dictator.

2) The other solution is to pay a rent for life. In this case the dictator will be named Juan Garcia, Jose Pablo Perez or the lessor. The situation is no different than 1).

After this reflection does not have the delicacy of a youth who say their problem is that no saves, that was true for you in 1979, was valid even for some young people in 1999, but not in 2006, in 2006 only get more pay impotence, if anything, the boy. The effort of our fathers, no doubt admirable, was not sterile (could obtain housing property in a period of 5 years). The same effort made by us, the children, perhaps only comes to reduce a mortgage in 5 years half a century. The house was never an order to enrich themselves, but to live and how little material you need it. The law of the free market can set the price of plasma TVs to the price you want to ... I do not buy ... but never had to allow that same law set the price of housing, because we all need to live in one, and not everyone can pay. Young people, even those who have higher education, we can not compete. "

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# 2, Jose Antonio

November 30, 2007, at 9:24.

From Invertia

Economy
Bernanke said that there may be new low rates to stem crisis
Time: 01:31 Source: Reuters

Washington, Nov 29 (EFECOM) .- The Federal Reserve chairman, Ben Bernanke, warned today of the effects of financial turmoil and the real estate crisis, and announced that it might be a need for a new rate cut to revitalize the economy. In a speech in the Chamber of Commerce in Charlotte, North Carolina, the top monetary authority in the United States became a story of the "contrary winds" blowing in today on the country.

Specifically, he referred to a tightening in the terms of mortgage loans, a slowdown in the property business, and the sharp price hikes that is occurring in energy prices.

Despite these problems, he said, spending will continue to grow, although consumers show greater caution, which would enable the country to deal with this situation without going into recession.

However, Bernanke said that the monetary authority must be "exceptionally alert and flexible", which was interpreted as the announcement of a new lower rates, which could occur at the meeting on December 11, the last meeting of the year.

Bernanke delivered his speech just a few hours after the White House in four tenths today downgraded the growth forecast for the United States for 2008, put up at 2.7%.

Ed Lazear, chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers to President George W. Bush we blame the reduction to a sharpening of the real estate crisis and the lower productivity of the country.

Despite the revision, the forecasts from the White House still outweigh the calculations of the Federal Reserve, which estimates that the gross domestic product (GDP) of U.S. in 2008 will grow from 1.8 to 2.5%.

Six months before the same institution projected growth of between 2.5 and 2.75%.

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# 3, Miguel

November 30, 2007, at 9:29.

Hello, regarding the article which says that men lie more than women to say that there is the question Do you lie?, One can only reply "no", whether you speak the truth ... as if we lie.

Greetings.

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# 4, oscar fernanr

November 30, 2007, at 9:32.

excellent page and Unha sugerencialos d einteres rates in mid-year 2008 were about 3 per cent a parrot and wait.

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# 5, rented

November 30, 2007, at 9:45.

Menuda fall in the Euribor in the month of November, which is not consolation is because you do not want.

I believe that the ECB has to raise rates YA.

While U.S.:

"The price of housing in the U.S. is suffering the largest drop since 1970"

http://www.elpais.com/articulo/economia/precio/vivienda/EE/UU/sufre/mayor/caida/1970/elpepueco/20071130elpepieco_12/Tes

The price of new houses sold in October in the U.S. fell by 13% when compared with what it cost a year ago.

We will see those headlines in Spain next year?

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# 6, juan

November 30, 2007, at 9:49.

I need help, to see if any of you can help me, is that the day 5 of this month's signing the deed of sale and previously I had spent a provision of funds worth 2600 euros, it turns out that yesterday I sent another 28 day supply different funds worth 4500 euros, almost 2,000 euros more, with the excuse that they had not taken account the novation to increase the amount of the mortgage sponsor. Well, the fact is that I have signed a purchase with subrogation and novation of the principal of it, and I want to charge 3 times the notary, 3 times the recording and there is a separate "tax" of 800 euros for the conversion of 12,000 euros Someone knows where I can look at the truth if they want me or scam?

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# 7, Paco (Cavallet)

November 30, 2007, at 10:02.

Jose Antonio 1
8 km from Valencia.
1965 floor of newly constructed 180,000 pesetas, my father was earning 9,000 a month, with little or retencioones taxes (20 months)
1976 floor of new construction 1,150,000 pesetas, my father with a salary of 40,000 per month. with little or withholding taxes (28.75 months)
1990 floor with 5 years old, 9,200,000, I was earning 112,000 pesetas with just over presiuón tax (82.14 months)
2005 new apartment construction € 204,000 (34,000,000 pesetas), fortunately just had Roster 2800 €, almost paying taxes for up to breathe (72.85 months)

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# 8, Paco (Cavallet)

November 30, 2007, at 10:05.

By the way I left last night of partying by Valencia and in a discotheque in Caribbean music I charged the Canata (johni Walcker with orange) to just 7 €.

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# 9, juan

November 30, 2007, at 10:07.

For paco, you are the lucky few who are paid 2800 euros ¿clean? per month, as you say as you do it because there are 12millones of Spaniards who fail to reach Euro 1000 per month (myself included) and we have to join two salaries to buy a house. I really think we've gone to worse and that our parents had more luck than we
My parents, the year 1976, cost floor 1M pesetas, was paid in 2 years, I in 2007, my apartment cost me 105,000 euros, won 933euros, 112mensualidades (9.5 years), I am lucky that my partner but is not as you would.

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# 10, Buckley

November 30, 2007, at 10:11.

For Jose Antonio # 1 ... plas plas .. .. .. plas if you've nailed sir. 100% agree with your comment. Greetings.

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# 11, Karmen

November 30, 2007, at 10:12.

Hello to everyone s
Last week I went to the bank to negotiate my differential, with the threat that subrogaría the mortgage in case you do not drop me, well, I have a very high 0.80 differential and other sites offer 0.50 recruiting me the same products. Yesterday they call me and tell me 'OK, you go down as much to 0.65 but with the proviso that contracts with us the life insurance "total, making it gutters, so I am saving with the reduction of the differential, it cost me for another side with the contract's life insurance, and the truth is that it is a product that does not interest me, nor the least.
It is almost certain that by next year subrogated, but not if you wait for the reaction of the bodies in the new mortgage law, I have heard that many might be encouraged to pay the costs of subrrogación (at least in part) that is now will be cheaper to attract more customers.
Aconsejais me what to do? ¿Begin in January with the theme of subrogation or hope to see if banks are encouraged to pay part of these costs to attract more customers?
A greeting to all s

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# 12, godest

November 30, 2007, at 10:14.

# 5 - rented

Faced with this assertion and follow your path of opinion on this blog: "I believe that the ECB has to raise rates YA. "

I can think of only two possibilities,

1 .- To be so blind that do not know that the problem of inflation that now exists is far less a problem of excessive consumption but to increase prices by soaring fuel, more than 50% in one year and of the rise in prices of staple foods by intermediaries for varied excuses that are beside the point.

2 .- Just to jactarte someone with a mortgage is in the position of having to sell the apartment for not paying and go through what that entails.

As always people like you to believe that the words of Attila retouched going very well,

I see jealousy, envy a lot ....

Without acrimony eh! But I can not understand that you can enjoy the misfortune of others, who spends more when it is not the typical speculator that both eager to destroy but normal families who bought to live in one place.

Ah! And another thing, and coming to comment on the story that men lie more, if you'd known and have the money, not speculation would have to earn a paste in a momentuelo?

I hope at least hypocritical response possible, and that seems to me that my whatever in that situation would have liked to see increased their savings, much as we have fucked up so many others of which I include myself, of course.

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# 13, Enculator

November 30, 2007, at 10:15.

That's why many times I say ... that many people believe that all are in the same situation but it is not, there are richer than we think ... entrepreneurs are lined all. With the rising prices are the only ones who have won on the cake of the Euro, the workers we have touched the mucous, is like that. We have been deceived. You return the peseta.

Greetings,

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# 14, Enculator

November 30, 2007, at 10:17.

Indeed clopez! I found the smiling face of everything down to the left! I guess jajajaja prize?

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# 15, condonacion_jeje

November 30, 2007, at 10:18.

rented .. jajajaja burbujil daily news ajajajaja

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# 16, jordicat

November 30, 2007, at 10:20.

You return the peseta? For what? So that after 100 rounded PTA. for 1 € now we round 1 € 200 PTA. or more? Let us leave peacefully with the same currency for many years!

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# 17, KOKOLIS

November 30, 2007, at 10:21.

The Euribor close this November lower than in October, but just to maintain the values of the last few days in December we will have a good climb.

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# 18, badboy

November 30, 2007, at 10:35.

hello to the day yesterday
Today's good news
quote terra currently 25 minutes ago

The European Central Bank (ECB) reported today that the market supply of money sufficient liquidity until the end of the year to maintain interest rates at very short-term rate close to the minimum reference

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# 19, Jose Antonio

November 30, 2007, at 10:35.

Another Invertia

Economy
The ECB reported that supply of sufficient liquidity to the market
Time: 09:50 Source: Reuters

Frankfurt (Germany), Nov 30 (EFECOM) .- The European Central Bank (ECB) reported today that the market supply of money sufficient liquidity until the end of the year to maintain interest rates at very short notice near the minimum rate reference.

In a press release, the European Central Bank reiterated the message conveyed last Friday in an announcement of operational aspects in which he "has noticed the resurgence of tensions in the euro money market."

With this release of new liquidity management measures, the ECB seeks to reassure commercial banks in the euro zone because of the shortage of liquidity in the money market.

The ECB's governing council decided yesterday in a conference call for up to two weeks to extend the maturity of the weekly refinancing operation of next December 19, which will now expire on January 4, instead of Dec. 28.

"In this operation, the ECB will try to meet the needs of liquidity in the banking sector for this period of two weeks and will cover the Christmas holiday and the end of the year."

The European bank added that it "will observe the conditions of liquidity to keep interest rates very close to the short-term benchmark rate at least."

The ECB stressed that awarded more liquidity to that provided in the main refinancing operations to supply banks with sufficient cash.

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# 20, Karmen

November 30, 2007, at 10:36.

These days I've been a little off ....
Have you left the new mortgage law in the Official Gazette?
Thank you

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# 21, otro_currito

November 30, 2007, at 10:37.

Well, talking about the next meeting of the ECB, I am inclined to be by keeping rates, but do not rule out a cut of a quarter-point if you give bernake the cut by a half point.
I base that, although mainly in squeezing inflation, there is no certainty that an upturn is not occasional rather than a trend.
Instead, as is the differential with regard to the Euribor interest marked by the ECB, it would be a blow to the economies rising quarter-point increase since the distance euro-dollar and exports would be much diminished with this location.
Besides, that financing for businesses would rise even more than what already is.
What if I understand it should do is to inject more money and more time, as 6 or 8 months to try to ease tensions interchange.

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# 22, Jose antonio

November 30, 2007, at 10:37.

I feel the repetition, not seen in the badboy

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# 23, Font

November 30, 2007, at 10:41.

For that we are all sexes will drop a bit quiet today on the Euribor (which majos).

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# 24, badboy

November 30, 2007, at 10:45.

Jose Antonio
Good news glad to hear them several times ... ... ..
I think that today is already noticing in Euribor passing aver q someone has any information on how the morning goes ???????

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# 25, Libertarian

November 30, 2007, at 10:54.

Very interesting the first comment,

those who understand something because podriais explain this difference?

* Is that in 2007 it moves much less money (in comparison) from that movie in 1979, and therefore the economy is far less dynamic and much lower salaries?

Otherwise why would so that happens:
* May be such that the type of economic model of those years where we were competitive in the current, or coña?

As might explain? (apart from the reasons as our competitiveness and very low current lack of meritocracy?)

Congratulations on your page clopez.

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# 26, Future Uncertain

November 30, 2007, at 11:14.

# 6, juan
Look at this page

http://www.nuevosvecinos.com/general/contenidos.asp?docid=2

A greeting

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# 27, Libertarian

November 30, 2007, at 11:15.

and I think this is not a bobada following the previous message ....

... .. Assuming that is put into play a lot less money in the economy ... ... ..

... ... ... .... This would be reason enough to dismantle the welfare state in Europe and that Europe take risks, assembles companies move capital and have salaries?

greetings.

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# 28, oscar

November 30, 2007, at 11:16.

4.692%

Nor were down today!

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# 29, otro_currito

November 30, 2007, at 11:18.

MEETING 30/11/2007 11:11

Middle type
Euribor Week 4.109
1 Month Euribor 4.822
Euribor 2 Months 4.813
Euribor 3 Months 4.81
6 Month Euribor 4.751
12 Month Euribor 4.692

29/11/2007 Eonia 3.97

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# 30, Anonymous

November 30, 2007, at 11:18.

NOW WE HAVE HALF OF NOVEMBER: 4.607%

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# 31, Paco (Cavallet)

November 30, 2007, at 11:19.

To juan 9
I have a small business with 6 employees (got to have 11 years ago) but the competition of the Chinese made me having to invest in machinery and dispense with personal (and thus all the people who have paid between 1600 and 1800 € per month) yes, the 38-hour week working the pass (AND NOT AS SOME EMPLOYEES THAT INSTEAD OF BEING A CHAT ARE PUT YOUR WORK BY CASE).
For Enculator 13
Entrepreneurs hotel and the public can servivios that with the rounding 1 € = 100 pesetas have been lining, which produce goods in the industrial sector NO.

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# 32, Frank

November 30, 2007, at 11:19.

Sorry, I was soon to

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# 33, Chema

November 30, 2007, at 11:20.

Well today is Friday and more than one will be praying for him to touch EuroMillions, and not taken to worry over whether rises or lowers the Euribor.
:)

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# 34, Font

November 30, 2007, at 11:22.

I was wrong has gone up a bit.

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# 35, manonegra

November 30, 2007, at 11:23.

Very good day to everyone s!

I very much agree on what has been stated by Godest, both on the causes of inflation, like that makes you grace the misfortunes of others, this only happens in this country, the envy of the stubborn. In more advanced countries, the whole world knows that a good deal is one in earning all parties involved, and this, oviamente is perfectly transferable to any area of society ...

As for the causes of inflation (as I have said on other occasions) is due to the astronomical price hikes energy (which depends on oil) and cereals (which Mr. Bush has already decided not to eat If not for fuel) and is what makes up the price of any product manufactured, because it takes energy to produce and transposed on the one hand and on the other side of the grain, which is what they feed the animals from which we feed us ...

That the ECB can do, NOTHING! but the European Commission: Make once and for all an energy policy that makes us much less dependent on oil damned (costing many lives and destroying over this planet)

For all that, in my opinion the ECB will keep 4%

Salud2 lies @ s

jejejejeje

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# 36, Student

November 30, 2007, at 11:30.

good morning
There is a maximum economic saying "the price of money has to be above inflation," this is for that saving is profitable, I do not just take the money in a bank in a sock ...
Is not a dynamic market in which more money is spent in salary, but in which not only consume goods and basic commodities and also are there to save, every day in Spain there are more people who are buying some litronas and stay at home someone, I until a couple of months ago, leaving canes at least 5 days a week, now my friends are cipotecando, now staying with fellow faculty, because they lived in the homes of their parents, while paying a mortgage because it has no furniture ...
From the economic point of view a situation of spending exclusively on commodities goes beyond encouraging savings (little or a lot, but the savings is necesaio), because currently, in which banks do not have a hard cash (lack of liquidity This is invested in the bricks of the Spaniards) I have to say that lowering interest rates would only increase the problem, as people continue asking for more money, settlement, the injection of money from the central banks me as a temporary Napa ( to be very, very optimistic described as the evil APAN), because how much money has to invest in banking in order to keep rates?, and perhaps worse How long will I have to spend money to keep guys? . Another plan is to comment out there, give it to the ticket machine to impoverish the currency and U.S. dollars flooding the system with little value to offset inflation ... Well this is directly damaging to the economy, but it is not bad because it benefits apan exports and is the same as reducing debts ... Within 5 years we will see who comes out best in crisis, whether Yankee's policy of "giving the printer of banknotes green" or European "me to stay as I am," personally 2 I seem quite regular and they are halfway between populists (trying to look good with people and not raise rates) and do things right, without actually doing so
a greeting, Student

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# 37, condonacion_jeje

November 30, 2007, at 11:38.

ah ... perfect. milli other very well rise over very well so we are going to pm EURIBOR SON OF P ... ....

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# 38, condonacion_jeje

November 30, 2007, at 11:42.

Really at this rate since December .... sperate q cerkita not finish the 4725 max historical ago na .... q someone STOP THIS Sangria !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! XDDDDDDDDDDD

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# 39, Chinese

November 30, 2007, at 11:44.

# 35, manonegra
and why not see it in an objective way the matter? maybe you want to give you ... you mean something else.
This is not a matter of envy Godest, that is (or should it be otherwise), see things objectively. just go up and say that the oil and that therefore nothing should be done is totally wrong. The oil (and here I am with you that must seek other sources of energy) is essential in setting a price almost all products. Basically, because the products are generally transported, and this transport gasoline consumed. to increase the gasoline increases the cost of transportation and this is moved to the final price of a product. I think this is clear.
To my (subjective opinion) the perspective of the price of oil is not clear that it will fall. to tensions with Iran, should now add those of venezuela (already commented chavez that could put the barrel to 200 turkeys to annihilate the demon Yankee), so I see no decline in the price of oil in the coming months.

Gillie and 31, if the CPI rises in too:
a) si trasladas ese ipc al sueldo de tus trabajadores, volveras a ser menos competitivo con los chinos (coño mi nick) y tal vez tengas que despedir a mas peña.
b) si no trasladas ese ipc al sueldo de tus trabajadores, seras igual de competitivo a costa de que tus empleados pierdan poder adquisitivo (mal rollo entre tus empleados, tal vez huelga,……..).

asi que el tema de la inflaccion no es un tema trivial. tal vez a los hipotecados le venga mal una elevacion del tipo de interes (aunque en realidad lo que les venga mal es tener una deuda excesiva), pero seguro que peor les vendria un despido.
salud!

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# 40 , Nomada_con_jaima_pagada

30 de Noviembre de 2007, a las 11:46.

Hola a todos:
Podria alguien poner en este foro la media del euribor en los años que lleva de indice (que no se cuantos son ). Y tambien juntando al euribor los anteriores indice mayoritarios de prestamo cual seria la medida del indice en los ultimos 20 años.
Gracias a todos por anticipado
pd: No hay mal que cien años dure (de momento ni las hipotecas)

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# 41 , Alquilado

30 de Noviembre de 2007, a las 11:47.

Euribor octubre 4.647
Euribor noviembre 4.607

“El crecimiento de la Eurozona se acelera tras crecer un 2,7% hasta septiembre”

“La inflación en la eurozona sube hasta el 3% en noviembre”

Creo que trichet ya sabe lo que tiene que hacer.

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# 42 , Lorena

30 de Noviembre de 2007, a las 11:49.

Lo que no dices (jose antonio 1)es a lo que estaban los intereses en los 80….mira te cuento otra cosita…mis padres en el 1984 se compraron un piso de 90 metros cuadrados en Asturias por 3 millones (segunda mano, nada de piso con pista de paddel y zonas verdes y nuevo, un segunda mano que hubo que reformar), mi padre era profesor y mi madre tenia una pequena academia pagaron unos intereses al 18%….18% senores….y ganaban 65000 pesetas…..y mi guarderia costaba 10000…, y el prestamo del Opel Corsa (no un pedazo de BMW o Audi como tiene la gente ahora) y no vale hacer reglas de tres, sabes a como estaba el kilo de filetes??? que solo los comiamos cuando venia mi abuela!! nos hartamos de tomar churros en casa,filetes de cerdo y de hacer tartas caseras, y de jugar al monopoly, yo veia Barrio Sesamo en una mini tele en blanco y negro (1984) que alguien nos habia dado…pero eramos muy felices y poco a poco fuimos mejorando y tal….que ahora si no tenemos una television LCD, un movil de la leche, una casa con piscina, y veraneamos en la playa no estamos contentos….y que si 2500 euros por nino, que si libros gratis….joder, que ya esta bien de no querer crecer….la mayoria de edad de la que hablaba Kant le falta a mucha gente de mi edad (30)

Por cierto…lo que les salvo fue las subidas del IPC como el sueldo subia un 10% siempre ganaban porder adquisitivo con respecto al prestamo que era lo que se llevaba la mayor parte de su renta….y pagaron la casa en 36 mensualidades!!! Pero a costa de privarse de cosas…que parece que es lo que no queremos….

Y lo que yo digo que hace un recien licenciado con 23 annitos comprandose una casa leches!!! es que yo alucino ya con las quejas…que lo que nos pasa es que no estamos acostumbrados a hacer esfuerzos!!! Es que ya esta bien hombre, ya esta bien!!!

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# 43 , Lorena

30 de Noviembre de 2007, a las 11:53.

En el euribor de estos dias esta previsto que Trinchet suba los tipos….haya calma!!!..Yo he estimado mi vida a 10 annitos , y en 10 pago la hipoteca….llevo 3….y por que?? porque ahorro y no me compre una casa de le leche…(Alcala de Henares) y trabajo mucho…y con un libro soy feliz no me hace falta grandes lujos….

Que el problema lo tenemos dentro!!! que necesitamos la leche para ser felices

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# 44 , Atila, rey de los anos

30 de Noviembre de 2007, a las 11:53.

El requetepollazo del día de hoy no es para nuestro amigo Euribor a 12 meses, no… es para nuestro euribito a 1 mes, el cual ha pasado del 4,17 de anteayer al 4,82 de hoy….
A eso lo llamo yo una buena erección!

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# 45 , Frank

30 de Noviembre de 2007, a las 11:57.

Aqui lo tienes nomada
http://www.ahe.es/bocms/images/bfilecontent/2006/04/27/122.htm?version=18

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# 46 , Dr´n´r di vagos.

30 de Noviembre de 2007, a las 11:58.

¡Desarrollo sostenible!

Consumo responsable.

Ahorro (monetario y energético).

Disminución del endeudamiento.

El actual sistema de desarrollo mundial es una puta mierda .
Al mando de muchos países hay gente que está más loca que yo y las instituciones internacionales no sirven para nada.

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# 47 , kokito

30 de Noviembre de 2007, a las 11:58.

# 11 Karmen, en mi familia estamos como tú. Y nosotros vamos a esperar a finales de Enero a negociar con bancos, ya que esperamos que estos empiecen a ver las orejas al lobo, y no quieran perder clientes solventes, aunque estamos convencidos de que el Euribor va a subir.

Me da la impresión que unos pocos nos están tomando el pelo a los de a pie ( será que nos leen y hay conspiración, je,je,je..).
Decidme ingenuo, o cortito ( pero sin pasarse, eh), pero el Euribor seguirá subiendo hasta que las tasas de morosos no superen como mínimo el 2%, entonces igual se plantean algo ( la mayor tasa de morosos llegó al 4%). Les interesa tener liquidez a costa nuestra, forrarse hasta las cejas ( ya vereis los próximos resultados de los grandes bancos) y les importa un pepino si compramos mas o menos productos básicos ( excepto la electricidad, el agua, gas, petroleo, en eso si que invierten, pero…… en leche y huevos) qué mejor que subiendo el euribor a los que todavía somos medio solventes. Que el resto de los ciudadanos no pueden acceder a una vivienda les da igual, ellos nos quieren a los que podemos pagar.

Hasta luego

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# 48 , Paco ( Cavallet )

30 de Noviembre de 2007, a las 12:03.

Chino 39
Normalmente el transporte consume gas -oil, no gasolina.
Veamos la leche
1000 litros de leche de granja a factoría 50 km ( seguro que no son tantos )
5 litros de gas-oil que con un encarecimiento de 0,30 € resultan 1.5€
0,0015 € litro.
25.000 litros de factoría a grandes centros de distribución 400 Km ( en un trailer que consume unos 70 litros a los 100 Km ) 280 litros X 0,3 = 84 €
0.0033.
Suma otros 0,0015 de ahí a los super y nos da un total de 0.0063.
O sea no llega a un centimo por litro.¿ Cuanto ha subido la leche?
Al igual que la leche las patatas, la fruta , el pollo etc etc.

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# 49 , efis

30 de Noviembre de 2007, a las 12:05.

Voy a ejercer de profeta:

En diciembre abacabará la media del mes en torno al 4,65. Creo que la próxima semana bajará bastante el tema si no se suben los tipos. Hay que llenar las arcas para Navidad:

“El banco europeo añadió que “observará las condiciones de liquidez para mantener los tipos de interés a muy corto plazo cerca de la tasa de referencia mínima”.

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# 50 , Karmen

30 de Noviembre de 2007, a las 12:08.

#47, kokito
sí, estoy de acuerdo contigo, de momento voy a esperar a los primeros meses del año que viene, a ver lo que pasa, de todos mosdos voy a seguir presionando a mi banco con el tema de la subrogación, a ver si aflojan….
por cierto ¿alguien sabe si ya se ha publicado en el BOE la nueva ley hipotecaria?
gracias

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